Can you have the same article on your website AND Ezine Articles?

leclaims

13 years ago

True, you can post your article to your site, let it get indexed by Google on your site, then submit to EZA.

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joe12joe

13 years ago

Originally Posted by leclaims

True, you can post your article to your site, let it get indexed by Google on your site, then submit to EZA.

Ezinearticles wont accept duplicate content. I dont recommend it. You should post original content on your website although you may create backlinks of your ezine articles towards your website to get the benefit out of it. But it is not recommended to post the same articles on your website which you would post on ezine and vice versa. You would be penalized by Google and it can effect your pagerank.

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joe12joe

Ezinearticles wont accept duplicate content. I dont recommend it. You should post original content on your website although you may create backlinks of your ezine articles towards your website to get the benefit out of it. But it is not recommended to post the same articles on your website which you would post on ezine and vice versa. You would be penalized by Google and it can effect your pagerank.

I do love it when people come in here and tell other people what's right and wrong when they actually don't have any idea what they're talking about.

I feel really sorry for you, hampering your own IM career believing in myths.

Just read EZA terms of service to prove to yourself just how wrong you are.

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Sandor Verebi

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

I do love it when people come in here and tell other people what's right and wrong when they actually don't have any idea what they're talking about.

I feel really sorry for you, hampering your own IM career believing in myths.

Just read EZA terms of service to prove to yourself just how wrong you are.

Hi Richard,

Earlier I quoted from the interview with Matt Cuts. I gave the link interested people can to follow. There are videos on this topic. What can you still help?

There are more options. People...

- are lazy to look up things on their own

- can not read

- do not understand what they read

Things are changing always. People rarely. Unfortunately.

All the best,

Sandor

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Richard Van 13 years ago

Thank you Sandor,

I agree entirely.

That myth has been totally blown out of the water by Google, Cutts himself and Chris Knight...You name it, we've all tested it...but no, somebody hears otherwise and that becomes...

...Fact.

Frightening world really.
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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by joe12joe

Ezinearticles wont accept duplicate content. I dont recommend it. You should post original content on your website although you may create backlinks of your ezine articles towards your website to get the benefit out of it. But it is not recommended to post the same articles on your website which you would post on ezine and vice versa. You would be penalized by Google and it can effect your pagerank.

Rarely, if ever, have I seen so many factual misstatements all together in one paragraph. You've really been dreadfully misinformed, Joe, if you believe any of that.

Spend a little time here, reading some of the article marketing threads. There've been at least 100 article marketing threads here over the last year alone in which so many successful professionals have patiently explained that every detail you've mentioned above is totally mistaken.

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Rarely, if ever, have I seen so many factual misstatements all together in one paragraph. You've really been dreadfully misinformed, Joe, if you believe any of that.

Spend a little time here, reading some of the article marketing threads. There've been at least 1,000 article marketing threads here over the last year alone in which so many successful professionals have patiently explained that every detail you've mentioned above is totally mistaken.

I think that ranks as potential forum post of the decade.

Absolute "Poetry in forum posting"!

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Alexandre Valois

13 years ago

If it is published ONLY on your website prior to ezinearticles submission, it will be alright.

What they want to avoid is people taking content that has already been syndicated to other sources and claim it by adding it to their database.

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Kecia

13 years ago

That is true. The duplicate content rule only pertains to content that is placed on the same domain more than once. Post it on your website first, and when it is indexed, submit it to EzineArticles.

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13 years ago

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bcmwp 13 years ago

Originally Posted by moonfish

...Or you can use the free plugin available from ezinearticles which enables you to post both to your blog and to EZA at the same time.

Does anyone know which plugin this is?
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- genietoast 13 years ago
  
  Yes, you can. Now, Ezine Articles has a plugin that allows you post on your blog and/or on Ezine Articles.
  
  The plugin is here: Ezine Articles Plugin
  
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JustinDupre

13 years ago

Yes you can and even more than EZ but make sure you got it on your site first.

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Sachine

13 years ago

What I do is use the seed article & prepare it for power article re-writer to create unique articles which can then be posted to article directories... this way there is no duplicate content plus the articles submitted are natural & make sense to the readers.

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dawnbreaker

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Sachine

What I do is use the seed article & prepare it for power article re-writer to create unique articles which can then be posted to article directories... this way there is no duplicate content plus the articles submitted are natural & make sense to the readers.

You should atleast let google index your article on your website before submitting it into article directories...

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orangecopper

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Sachine

What I do is use the seed article & prepare it for power article re-writer to create unique articles which can then be posted to article directories... this way there is no duplicate content plus the articles submitted are natural & make sense to the readers.

Its a good idea to use Article spinners to generate unique articles and then submit it to EZ. The Best Spinner is the program i use

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Sachine

What I do is use the seed article & prepare it for power article re-writer to create unique articles which can then be posted to article directories... this way there is no duplicate content plus the articles submitted are natural & make sense to the readers.

It's funny really. You go through all that effort to spin your articles to create this "unique" content, when all you had to do was learn what "Duplicate" content really was in the first place.

Think about it, If a mass article submitter, submits the same article to lots of directories, how can the duplicate content myth exist? There would be no article directories if it was punished!

Duplicate content is having the same content duplicated on one site, it is not the same article on different sites.

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clint48

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

It's funny really. You go through all that effort to spin your articles to create this "unique" content, when all you had to do was learn what "Duplicate" content really was in the first place.

Think about it, If a mass article submitter, submits the same article to lots of directories, how can the duplicate content myth exist? There would be no article directories if it was punished!

Duplicate content is having the same content duplicated on one site, it is not the same article on different sites.

Richard, you are correct you don't need to spin the article, but if you spin 20 articles with 20 different titles you will have 20 different keywords trying to rank on the first page of Google. You could write 20 different articles with 20 different titles, but spinning them would be much faster.

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by clint48

Richard, you are correct you don't need to spin the article, but if you spin 20 articles with 20 different titles you will have 20 different keywords trying to rank on the first page of Google. You could write 20 different articles with 20 different titles, but spinning them would be much faster.

Clint

Of course you can Clint, I don't deny that.

My point was aimed at the poster above who was busy, beavering away, spinning articles to avoid a duplicate content penalty that doesn't exist.

I agree you can spin things as often as you like and you can, albeit not forever, have lots of articles ranking for lots of keywords.

That, however isn't my aim in article marketing. My aim is to have very good articles syndicated by highly relevant to my niche, high PR sites with high readerships. They read my article that directs them to my presell page which captures their information and sells them the product before they get to the sales page. I find my presell page is a far more effective sales platform than an article I've written. Naturally there's a difference between an "article" and a "presell page" and I'd rather my presell page ranks better than my articles.

I have nothing against spinning when it's done correctly and at no point in this thread have I mentioned any advantages or disadvantages to spinning.

My points were all against the duplicate content penalty myth and had nothing to do with an arguement about spinning, hence the title of the thread is...

Can you have the same article on your website AND Ezine Articles?

The answer to that question is yes and there's no need to spin it before you do so.

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mikeey

13 years ago

So the content{articles} that i have writen and placed on my site can be placeed onto EZA ? So i place the articles on EZA and where is best have the backlink pointing to? original article on my site or the homepage of my site? Im thinking the backlink would be best if it went to either the homepage or some other part of my site but not the original article because if a visitor has come from your EZA and clicked on the link then surely they won't like it to much to be shown the very same content?

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King Shiloh

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by mikeey

So the content{articles} that i have writen and placed on my site can be placeed onto EZA ? So i place the articles on EZA and where is best have the backlink pointing to? original article on my site or the homepage of my site? Im thinking the backlink would be best if it went to either the homepage or some other part of my site but not the original article because if a visitor has come from your EZA and clicked on the link then surely they won't like it to much to be shown the very same content?

Any thoughts guys and girls?

You have two options:
1. Tweak the article before submitting it to EZA.

2. Submit the short version of the article to EZA.

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LauraJ

13 years ago

From what i've found, you can't link back to your website from the main article as EZA considers this as self promotion but you can link to it in the resource box. Here i use keyword rich anchor text to link back to the relevant page on my website.

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Gerald Arno

Banned 13 years ago

Hey Beaumon,

you can post content on your blog and on ezine, but make sure that it isn´t a duplicated content, because it will effect your SEO dramatically.

Google hates duplicated content and the best way to satisfy Google is to create fresh content or at least change several keywords (spinning).

Hope this helps,

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Lee Wilson 13 years ago

Originally Posted by GeraldGigerl

Google hates duplicated content and the best way to satisfy Google is to create fresh content or at least change several keywords (spinning).

I must have misinterpreted the information on Google's guidelines where they categorically claim this is utter nonsense. Can you post a link to where they say they hate it. Thanks. :rolleyes:
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Sandor Verebi

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GeraldGigerl

Hey Beaumon,

you can post content on your blog and on ezine, but make sure that it isn´t a duplicated content, because it will effect your SEO dramatically.

Google hates duplicated content and the best way to satisfy Google is to create fresh content or at least change several keywords (spinning).

Hope this helps,

Gerald

Hi Gerald,

"The Duplicate content rule is a myth. Google will not penalize you for having duplicate content, they will simply ignore you (which one could argue IS a penalty) Just remember to keep your content unique and fresh and attribute all content that is not yours to the original source and you will have no problems at all.

Keep in mind that you should take a step outside of the box you are stuck in and look at what you are trying to achieve for your business. If it’s backlinks you are after then surely you should not give a hoot about whether content is a duplicate or not. If it’s a brand you’re building then the last thing you want is crappy spun articles attributed to your name. Just remember to apply what you have learnt here to your current situation."

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GeraldGigerl

Hey Beaumon,

you can post content on your blog and on ezine, but make sure that it isn´t a duplicated content, because it will effect your SEO dramatically.

Google hates duplicated content and the best way to satisfy Google is to create fresh content or at least change several keywords (spinning).

Hope this helps,

Gerald

I'm afraid you're quite wrong Gerald and this very point has been flogged to death a million times here.

You're whole version of "duplicant content" as has been explained above, is a myth. Don't take it from me, ask EZA yourself or better still ask Google.

Also, if the duplicate content penalty scares you, wait until you've seen the latest penalty

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schttrj

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Beau

Hi Warriors,
Someone has told me it's ok to have the same article on your website/domain as you have on Ezine Articles as this is not seen as duplicate content as you are the author.

True or False???

And does having the same article on your site and on Ezine effect your google rankings?

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Beaumont

Yes, you CAN!

Submit the articles to your blog first and then when it gets indexed, to the article directories or content sharing sites.

Now, in the resource boxes, NEVER link back to the same page. Link back to the home page or some other page on your site. I would say, always link back to some other specific page, because that is normally very keyword rich and will come up in the search engines easily!

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A P Geofrey

13 years ago

Ok so in summary you guys are saying that:

You can post an article on your blog and also submit it to EA.

Second first post the article on your blog and make sure it is indexed by google before sending it to EA.

Right?

OK just for clarification how do you know that that article has been indexed already by google?

Of course I know the answer but the answer you guys will give here will help others more.

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traceye

13 years ago

Originally Posted by A P Geofrey

Ok so in summary you guys are saying that:

You can post an article on your blog and also submit it to EA.

Yes.

Originally Posted by A P Geofrey

Second first post the article on your blog and make sure it is indexed by google before sending it to EA.

Right?

Ah here is where my opinion differs from many other marketers. I don't believe it has to be on your blog 'first' before you send it to eza. Google doesn't have a calendar and say 'oh you had it first so I'll rank yours highest then'. Google will rank whichever copy they believe to have more authority the highest and the others will fall in behind in the rankings somewhere (or even in the supplemental index sometimes).

So, IMO, you can send it to eza in whatever order you like. First, second, a month later, whenever.

If you are building backlinks and increasing the authority of your own site then you can outrank eza easily. If not, then the eza copy will outrank you.

Originally Posted by A P Geofrey

OK just for clarification how do you know that that article has been indexed already by google?

Probably the easiest way is to do a search for a line of your article in quotes in Google. If it's indexed, it will appear in the search results. I like to set up a Google alerts for this so I'm notified as soon as Google indexes it and any other copies.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by traceye

Google doesn't have a calendar and say 'oh you had it first so I'll rank yours highest then'. Google will rank whichever copy they believe to have more authority the highest and the others will fall in behind in the rankings somewhere (or even in the supplemental index sometimes).

I agree with you completely about both those points, Tracey.

And so do all the successful, professional article marketers who explained in this thread why they always publish their articles on their own sites first, before submitting them to any article directory.

This is the bit where you've gone wrong ...

Originally Posted by traceye

So, IMO, you can send it to eza in whatever order you like.

It's the "so" that isn't right, at all.

Your conclusion simply doesn't follow in any way from the facts you've stated (and yes - they are facts).

With apologies, I'm afraid you've really missed the point, here, and in quite a dramatic way.

What you say above is perfectly true, but it isn't a reason for imagining that it makes no difference in what order things get indexed. In the long run, it still makes a very big and very significant difference indeed!

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traceye

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

What you say above is perfectly true, but it isn't a reason for imagining that it makes no difference in what order things get indexed. In the long run, it still makes a very big and very significant difference indeed!

Yes, I have read that thread many times, it's a great source of information.

However I can really only go on my experiences (which any good internet marketer should do rather than just repeat information that they think is true), and the order that the article is placed on any of my sites, eza, or whereever, just hasn't proved to me to have any statistical difference as to which article gets ranked higher. Again - this is in my own testing.

Sometimes eza will rank higher. Sometimes my site will. Sometimes I can take an article off eza from another author and my site will rank it higher with some backlinks to that article on my site. Obviously I was not the first to publish it in that case, yet still I can rank it better. Again the only factor I can see as to which copy gets ranked higher is the one google see's as the Authority (usually due to backlinks, but of course this isn't the only factor).

BUT (and here is where I do agree with you), I actually DO agree it should be on your own site first. Although not for the reasons for ranking, just because it makes good sense to. (Why wouldn't you put your own article on your own site first?).

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Carson Hill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I agree with you completely about both those points, Tracey.

And so do all the successful, professional article marketers who explained in this thread why they always publish their articles on their own sites first, before submitting them to any article directory.

This is the bit where you've gone wrong ...

It's the "so" that isn't right, at all.

Your conclusion simply doesn't follow in any way from the facts you've stated (and yes - they are facts).

With apologies, I'm afraid you've really missed the point, here, and in quite a dramatic way.

What you say above is perfectly true, but it isn't a reason for imagining that it makes no difference in what order things get indexed. In the long run, it still makes a very big and very significant difference indeed!

Hi Alexa. I am just curious. If you have a website with like 100 diff keywords you've found for it and 100's of articles to promote it.

Do you personally just pile up all those articles on the main page of your site/blog. Considering you always post to your blog first, that must be a hell of alot of articles. (fyi I'm a newbie on my first site)

Do you simply let them stack up on that homepage?
Any info you can give me is useful. Much thanks

-Carson

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Banned 13 years ago

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sweetgal

It is okay.But so as not to have duplicate content you can re-write the article before submitting it to enzine or any other directory. This helps to avoid the risk of being punished by some search engine for duplicate content. It is well worth to keep at bay some perils.

Sweetgal,

This is simply untrue and you are telling the OP completely wrong information that will serve no purpose at all.

Re-read this thread and search the forum and you'll find out what duplicate content really is.

You'll also find your IM carrer easier when you stop putting restrictions on yourself which are simply untrue. At least verify your facts before you go giving out incorrect information.

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traceye

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Beau

Hi Warriors,
Someone has told me it's ok to have the same article on your website/domain as you have on Ezine Articles as this is not seen as duplicate content as you are the author.

True or False???

And does having the same article on your site and on Ezine effect your google rankings?

Many thanks,
Beaumont

True.

The 'someone' is correct - what you are describing is called syndicated content. You are absolutely allowed to have your article both on your blog AND ezinearticles AND whereever else you want to place it. In fact ezinearticles actually encourage you to do so.

While it won't specifically affect your rankings per se, your question therefore (I assume) is whether that article on eza will outrank your own copy on your own site. Yes?

It's very possible that it might, although that depends on a number of factors including which copy that Google determines has the most authority. But by building up your own site with content, you have a much better chance in the future of outranking even eza!

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homeworkin

13 years ago

Yes, you can do this and not have any problems with Google or EZA. The easiest way to do it is to use the EZA plugin for Wordpress sites. That way you can write the articles, send it off to EZA by clicking the Submit button (which will show on your site after installing the plugin). Then, I go back in and add some more key words and a picture, etc. Then publish the article. EZA won't allow the level of key words I need to use on some articles, and it makes it just a little different.

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PsychoFin

13 years ago

Duplicate content or not, I like to rewrite the articles that are on my site before I submit them to EZA. I am aware that the duplicate content 'penalty' is a myth as has been explained countless times here and in other places. If I submit said article to other directories, I always make sure to do so after it has been approved by EZA. As a response to someone who asked about links, I like to include two links in my resource box; one to my main site and another to the page itself (or to another property depending on the linking strategy I am using).

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Chris Cole

13 years ago

If there WAS an issue regarding duplicate content then why would EZA build and promote their plugin for you to use to syndicate your content to them??

It's worth having the content on your site and indexed first, then submit the content over to EZA exactly as is, this way it's EZA who effectively have the duplicate content you talk of.

The only issue to worry about in duplicate content is to worry about is having the exact same content duplicated within your own site... So think about tags and categories leading to the very same content on your posts.. Seen as duplicate??!

This is the same reason why EZA will not allow content you have already submitted be re-submitted to them.

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Exactly Chris, spot on.

It's worth having the content on your site and indexed first, then submit the content over to EZA exactly as is, this way it's EZA who effectively have the duplicate content you talk of.

Exactly and precisely why it isn't duplicate content.

This is the same reason why EZA will not allow content you have already submitted be re-submitted to them.

Excellent.

Just, excellent.

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paulturner

13 years ago

Good advice from the other warriors and I yes I agree - put the content on the site first and get it indexed, maybe with some quick and easy social bookmarking, and then post to ezine and other article directories.

Get those sites some links too and see what ranks. I have had the same article ranked before on the first page from a couple of different sources. Of course, you can always rewrite / spin the content and aim for at least 30% difference between the copies - that way it stops any duplicate content being ignored and you still get rankings.

Turn the article into a video too and submit that!

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wendymay1

13 years ago

You can have the same article on your website as well as ezinearticles.

In fact you can spread your article to as many article sites as you wish.

You do not want the same article twice on the same website. This is what duplication is all about.

I have no reason to believe that this will affect your google rankings because its not a duplication.

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yourreviewer

13 years ago

I think we should have a Frequently Asked/Debated Questions thread and include the following.

1. Duplicate content penalty myth

2. Articles on EZA or site first

3. To spin or not to spin

4. Is it ethical to pay someone $2 per hour?

P.S. Here is one reason you should spin

YouTube - Great spin by Shane Warne.wmv

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yourreviewer

I think we should have a Frequently Asked/Debated Questions thread and include the following.

1. Duplicate content penalty myth

2. Articles on EZA or site first

3. To spin or not to spin

4. Is it ethical to pay someone $2 per hour?

P.S. Here is one reason you should spin

YouTube - Great spin by Shane Warne.wmv

But we have them daily...

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by yourreviewer

P.S. Here is one reason you should spin

The first 4 have been done to death. Death by fire, death by drowning, and probably even death by chocolate.

The Shane Warne video, however, I will admit is truly exceptional: an argument in favour of spinning and it actually makes sense!!

Oops, did I say that out loud? ...

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yourreviewer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

The first 4 have been done to death. Death by fire, death by drowning, and probably even death by chocolate.

The Shane Warne video, however, I will admit is truly exceptional: an argument in favour of spinning and it actually makes sense!!

Oops, did I say that out loud? ...

I think you are doing a big disservice by not offering a WSO on article marketing. I think it will help clear a lot of questions Warriors have on article marketing. I was one among the many who used to spin and spin for backlinks until I realized that it's simply not needed especially if my end goal is just getting backlinks.

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yourreviewer

I think you are doing a big disservice by not offering a WSO on article marketing. I think it will help clear a lot of questions Warriors have on article marketing. I was one among the many who used to spin and spin for backlinks until I realized that it's simply not needed especially if my end goal is just getting backlinks.

She is one of very, very few people, I would buy from, without the slightest doubt, were she to even give a 2% insight, into what she does so well.

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NateRivers

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yourreviewer

I think you are doing a big disservice by not offering a WSO on article marketing. I think it will help clear a lot of questions Warriors have on article marketing. I was one among the many who used to spin and spin for backlinks until I realized that it's simply not needed especially if my end goal is just getting backlinks.

Agreed. Don't spend money on spinning. The purported "benefits" of spinning are just marketing spin... get it?