I Fired CJ!

13 years ago

I agree they do suck. I realized that a long time ago.

1. Clickbank

2. Rapbank

3. Payspree

4. Amazon if you find some high end products to promote.

These are the best in my opinion.

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Greg D

13 years ago

Anyone start messing with Digiresults yet. It is a fellow Warrior's project and seems really cool.

Integrates with CB also and payouts are instant since it is all with PayPal.

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Andy Fletcher

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Greg D

Anyone start messing with Digiresults yet. It is a fellow Warrior's project and seems really cool.

Integrates with CB also and payouts are instant since it is all with PayPal.

Greg

Thanks for the mention Greg. Don't want to derail the thread so please feel free to PM me with any DigiResults related questions you may have.

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entrepreneurjay

13 years ago

I haven't heard of them Greg thanks for the tip I am gonna check them out.

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Kevin Williams

13 years ago

Don't agree. I make lots of sells through CJ and the $100 limit for a payout shouldn't be a problem to reach.

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pappyy3 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Williams

Don't agree. I make lots of sells through CJ and the $100 limit for a payout shouldn't be a problem to reach.

Agree. Never had any problems with CJ.

Everyone has their own experience with the various affiliate networks.

CBank just dosen't do it for me, so I abandoned it long ago - way too many scammy rubbish products for my liking.
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miawallace

13 years ago

I don't see how an entire network can suck because you didn't make very many sales. I'm a complete noob and I've made over $2000 with them since September. It's only logical that it doesn't matter what network you use, so long as you pick the right product and sell it correctly.

Just my two cents. Obviously I don't have an expert opinion, but I've had an uneventful, if not pleasant experience with them.

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Rho

13 years ago

Originally Posted by miawallace

I don't see how an entire network can suck because you didn't make very many sales. I'm a complete noob and I've made over $2000 with them since September. It's only logical that it doesn't matter what network you use, so long as you pick the right product and sell it correctly.

Just my two cents. Obviously I don't have an expert opinion, but I've had an uneventful, if not pleasant experience with them.

I am interested in what you are doing but I can't pm you.

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Steve Faber

13 years ago

CJ has been my best Aff network for years. Once in while CB will jump ahead of them for a while. All in all they seem to work very well and have fantastic vendors.

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Site87

13 years ago

CJ has been pretty good for me as well. They offer a variety of products and I've had a lot of success with them.

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jayesser

13 years ago

I hve to agree - CJ products are C**p and not easy to sell in my experience. I have been selling their products for a while and I find them almost impossible to sell. I have had 1000 times more success with Amazon. Poor commission but sell way better

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Black Hat Cat

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jayesser

I hve to agree - CJ products are C**p and not easy to sell in my experience. I have been selling their products for a while and I find them almost impossible to sell. I have had 1000 times more success with Amazon. Poor commission but sell way better

Ummm....yeah, I'm guessing you've never even logged into CJ once. If you had you'd know much of the same kind of stuff that is available at Amazon is also available at CJ.

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reapr

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat

Ummm....yeah, I'm guessing you've never even logged into CJ once. If you had you'd know much of the same kind of stuff that is available at Amazon is also available at CJ.

The branding and prices help with conversions too. I quit promotion products in CJs network a few years back.

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rosetrees 13 years ago

CJ were one of the first networks I used when I first tried a bit of affiliate marketing.

I used to have links on my website to suppliers of compatible ink cartridges so my clients could buy online.

On more than one occasion I watched a client purchase from a CJ link, on their own computer. Not once did the transaction appear on my account. Tradedoubler and Affiliate Future always recorded correctly.

I gave up on CJ.
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Greg D

13 years ago

CB and sites like it are just easy. No approval, just sign up. easy to figure out the hop links. Easy pay set up. Every 2 weeks, weekly if you get enough sales.

I agree that there are a bunch of spammy products on there as well, and there are some good ones as well.

Greg

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nerokon

13 years ago

CJ was not good for me as well. I tried for few months and then left.

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Rob141

13 years ago

I gave up with CJ. Getting approved by merchants is hard enough,then it's even harder to make sales.

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Odhinn

13 years ago

CJ seems a little suspicious to me. I had the same problem as the OP. I set up a rotating banner ad, and alternated clickbank products with CJ stuff (all software, same niche and everything). I found that I could sell all kinds of clickbank products, but after selling 50 or so clickbank products, I had sold only one piece of software on CJ.

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DJ Hughes

13 years ago

I use CJ for one of my sites and find it to be just fine. It isn't CJ that has bad products. I found a company listed with CJ that has the best possible products for my site market and it works quite well.

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13 years ago

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Piper Anderson 13 years ago

I don't make a lot of money with CJ, but I make enough to keep sticking with it. I usually put at least one CJ banner on every site I make, and the more merchants that approve me at CJ, the easier it becomes to get approved by other merchants.

After two years with CJ, I've made enough to qualify for a payment twice (I just qualified for the second payment, and will get it next month). So sales are slow and not easy to make at times, but just keep those banners sticking around on your sites, and eventually you will make SOME money off of them.

I do better with other programs, like Adsense, eBay Partner Network and Amazon Associates, but CJ is good to keep around for a little supplementary income once in a while.
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brendan1

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ncmedia

lol at thread backfire.

I agree with the others, don't judge a man by his tools/networks. (or don't judge a network by one man, or one experience, not reaching threshold is lol).

lol at post backfire

Obviously CJ sucks for a lot of people... there's obviously enough negative "experiences" to formulate a judgement. At least for those intelligent enough to realize it. :p

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Sylviane

13 years ago

I've heard both songs with CJ. Some people love it and some don't. It 's not my favorite personally, because I do know that some of the sales I made have not appeared on my CJ dashboard. If you email them, they usually sent you to the vendor. In other words blaming them.

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rparikh

13 years ago

I have tried couple of time back and i have also no good luck with CJ and then i left.But i think as marketer,all you need to test.It might be some of the offers good at cj and some one banking from it.

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TheDebtEliminator

13 years ago

Greetings LilBlackDress,

I have had mixed results with CJ.

CB has been the best for me.

Amazon is also good as physical products sell well, but their commissions are very low.

All the best ...Ron

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Rob141

13 years ago

Also if you don't log in for a while (cant remember how long) they terminate your account and keep your money.

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Slade556

13 years ago

I wasn't having any issues with CJ until one day I'm expecting one of my payouts and they tell me the merchant didn't have enough to pay me so guess what, no money for me. It just sat there. CJ has lots of products that are easy to market but this soured me towards it quite a bit. Perhaps I didn't do enough research when I signed up with them. I've had more success with other affiliate programs anyway.

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Kevin Williams

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Slade556

I wasn't having any issues with CJ until one day I'm expecting one of my payouts and they tell me the merchant didn't have enough to pay me so guess what, no money for me. It just sat there. CJ has lots of products that are easy to market but this soured me towards it quite a bit. Perhaps I didn't do enough research when I signed up with them. I've had more success with other affiliate programs anyway.

This is one of the reasons that I only stick with the more well-known programs on CJ. My favorite is ThinkGeek.

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BlondieWrites

13 years ago

I do pretty well with CJ. There was a period of about three months when income went down, back when the economy fell out. They have so many affiliates to choose from in their network, so it's pretty easy to find something that pertains to my various readers. I have my eggs in a lot of baskets so that I am never left hanging if one place goes under. Cj has been good for me. Maybe try different ads, or perhaps some blogs on different topics?

Cindy

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lasinob

13 years ago

I agree that CJ is not paying commissions. I had friends of mine order 3 orders from CJ vendors on my sites and I did not get commissions from any of the 3 orders. I don't know if it is CJ or the vendors are not paying commissions to CJ, but the money does not flow to the affiliate.

I contacted the vendors and they promised to get the commissions paid, but I haven't seen them yet, over a month later.

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Lloyd Buchinski

13 years ago

There have been a few threads about non payment when Hostgator is promoted using the CJ / HG affiliate link. Tommygadget started the most memorable one. The forum search will only go back a year so I couldn't find it.

He helped mom (or whoever) clear all her cookies and history and then buy through his affiliate link. Didn't work. The same story was repeated a couple other times in this forum.

He might have the url of the thread.

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ryanjm

13 years ago

This has been a helpful thread. We're just starting out in IM, but are leaning towards CJ/Amazon over Clickbank because Clickbank products seem more like scams since they're all just digital ebooks or videos for $50+ selling a dream. I feel better about a physical product from a reputable merchant rather than a huckster selling wares out of the back of his van.

The 7-12%commissions on CJ are appealing compared to Amazon's lowball 4% that turns into 6% if you do any kind of volume. I agree that conversion rates are probably much higher on Amazon though...I just wonder how much higher.

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LilBlackDress

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ryanjm

This has been a helpful thread. We're just starting out in IM, but are leaning towards CJ/Amazon over Clickbank because Clickbank products seem more like scams since they're all just digital ebooks or videos for $50+ selling a dream. I feel better about a physical product from a reputable merchant rather than a huckster selling wares out of the back of his van.

The 7-12%commissions on CJ are appealing compared to Amazon's lowball 4% that turns into 6% if you do any kind of volume. I agree that conversion rates are probably much higher on Amazon though...I just wonder how much higher.

Though Amazon is not my main source of affiliate income it is a very good one for me. I also use other affiliate sites including Clickbank.

One of the things to keep in mind with Amazon is that you get the commissions on every product someone buys when they click thru your link. I have sold sheets, kindle readers, books, craft kits, jewelry....all kinds of items I was not even trying to sell because of this. Paula and Wanda the 10K a month Amazon bloggers have said they sell more items they weren't trying to sell then items they were.

And by offering a mix of high and low ticket items you can hit the higher commission levels very quickly.

The high consumer trust factor, great range of products and excellent prices make Amazon a pretty easy sell. Amazon is a win win for both the buyer and affiliate.

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Dwight Anthony

13 years ago

CJ would be nice for me if they would ever approve what i wanted to promote (**sigh**)

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pethanks

13 years ago

You can actually do what seems best for you.

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scortillion

13 years ago

Not all Clickbank products are poor quality. I've purchased and sold may quality items from clickbank.

Personally I like Clickbank better. They pay far higher commissions.

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lacraiger

13 years ago

i quit cj looong ago. they scammed me of multiple sales and even after providing them with numbers and evidence they refused to do anything about it.

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kentaiwan98

13 years ago

I'm doing a rotation between Google Aff. Network and CJ for a bunch of products, but the weird thing: I have sent almost 1000 clicks to CJ, and not a single purchase. While I'm not yet good at aff.marketing, I have had success with Amazon this year on almost a regular basis. I will wait until each has 100 clicks on stats and see which has better results.

There are a lot of variables: including merchants own inability to handle their own site, something which Amazon is amazing at. And Amazon test, test and test some more, while it's not clear that many affiliates on CJ bother testing at all.

The other thing that's weird: I can promote more variety of products through Amazon, even in the same niche, but it's very difficult to promote somethings as Affiliate terms are pretty strict, esp. on some brands.

In the end, I'll go with the network that helps me sell more of what I want to sell: coffee. So far it's Amazon 3: CJ 0 and GAN 0. Next up is Linkshare, but they have so few products in my niche, it's ridiculous.

Kenneth

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LilBlackDress 13 years ago

Did you try Share A Sale? I believe they have coffee and that is a nice affiliate site to work with.
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  Originally Posted by LilBlackDress
  
  Did you try Share A Sale? I believe they have coffee and that is a nice affiliate site to work with.
  
  Yes, already signed up. I have some coffee vendors but thanks for the tip anyway!
  
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Capitalist_Pig

13 years ago

CJ makes it hard to deep link to products on the merchants' sites, and from what I can tell, don't offer data feeds at all. I'm moving to Pepperjam for these reasons.

That doesn't make them bad, they just don't fit my needs.

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burnsai

13 years ago

Yeah, CJ is pretty limited with their deep linking ability and many times I find the same affiliate on a 2nd network but with a much better payout.

So, I would say if you want to keep things VERY simple stick to CJ - but if you want to make money look at some of the smaller networks.

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