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About Traffic & Paid Traffic

by shahriyar
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I have a blog promoting a couple of affiliate products in weight loss niche. I want to try out paid traffic but before I did, i wanted to get some more information from you guys.

1. What type of paid traffic do you recommend ? (I really don't have a clear idea on this)

2. Do you know anyone or any company that provides good quality traffic for reasonable rates ? I checked on digitalpoint, theres plenty which confuses me to decide.

3. And most importantly does paid traffic convert ? whats your experience ?

Please share your knowledge. Thanks.
#paid #traffic
  • Profile picture of the author Resale Rights Ninja
    I hate paying for traffic. ppc can kill you. buying traffic off of digital point is a joke. You could buy backlinks however and that could be effective. I prefer to rank in organic search. All of my traffic is organic. It is all about finding your niche, choosing your keywords and then dominating them.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    I have a lot to say on this subject. It is all in the WSO shown in my signature.

    But paid traffic can wipe you out in a hurry if you don't know what you are doing. Conversion is a matter of where you are getting paid traffic, how you write your ads, copy and offer.

    Free traffic can work, but it takes a little longer to roll out.

    If you do go the paid route, look at PPC on Google, Bing AND Yahoo.

    But work in baby steps and test your offers slowly, to make absolutely certain you have your ad and your copy solid enough to help you generate a profit.

    Another form of paid traffic that may be ideal for you is PPV, but once again, take baby steps to make sure you will be able to make your money back, before you roll out major campaigns.

    All paid traffic that has a good track record for conversion also has the ability to bankrupt you quickly if you mishandle it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clint Butler
    In my opinion paid hits or visits doesn't work. Your best bet would to be go for a PPC campaign, which in and of itself can be complicated to say the least.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...of-inside.html

    I recommend this WSO if your looking to get started with Adwords, I was monitoring his free thread when this WSO was a work in progress and intend on purchasing it myself.

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    • Profile picture of the author Resale Rights Ninja
      Yeah with ppc start off slow and learn the ropes. Do lots of testing. Track your results. Its just not my thing. Maybe one day I will get more into ppc but for now organic is were it is at for me.

      Also be careful about actually buying traffic, as in I will send you 1,000 hits for X amount of money. Just don't do it. You would be wasting your cash. You want targeted traffic. Paying for hits will get you no where at all. Depending on your product those traffic exchanges can be useful. Just make sure you are building a list while you do it. Every one their wants the same thing you do and that is more traffic. They can be fun even, but it gets old fast. Starting out it can be effective to get you going but eventually you will evolve to getting real traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author swords
      You most likely won't want to do PPC in the weight loss because it is EXTREMELY over-saturated.

      However, I suppose if you find the right niche in weight loss that has a low CPC, then it would be worth pursuing.

      I do not believe that there would be any hidden niches in weight loss because everyone has done this, but I suppose if that's what you are shooting for, go for it!
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      • Profile picture of the author shahriyar
        Firstly, Thanks to all who have posted so far.

        Well, i need to clarify myself a bit also. I was mainly referring to paid traffic that are sold in digitalpoint. How do they send traffic to my site ? Do they put up a ad of my site or something like that ? I have no idea as how they work, can anyone explain ?

        Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja View Post

        buying traffic off of digital point is a joke.
        Umm.. can you explain ?

        Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja View Post

        You could buy backlinks however and that could be effective. I prefer to rank in organic search. All of my traffic is organic. It is all about finding your niche, choosing your keywords and then dominating them.
        Yes, i agree with you and i do that for most sites. This blog is not doing well, thats why I was thinking what to do.


        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        All paid traffic that has a good track record for conversion also has the ability to bankrupt you quickly if you mishandle it.
        I see, bad for me lol. What are those people actaully doing on digitalpoint who are selling like 10,000 UV for $10 ?

        Originally Posted by Clint Butler View Post

        In my opinion paid hits or visits doesn't work. Your best bet would to be go for a PPC campaign, which in and of itself can be complicated to say the least.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...of-inside.html
        Thanks for the recommendation.


        Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja View Post

        Also be careful about actually buying traffic, as in I will send you 1,000 hits for X amount of money. Just don't do it. You would be wasting your cash. You want targeted traffic. Paying for hits will get you no where at all. Depending on your product those traffic exchanges can be useful. Just make sure you are building a list while you do it.
        I see, i was actually going to do what you just not recommended me to do, i.e. buying 1000 for X dollars.

        But some of the people over digitalpoint are also selling targeted traffic (at least saying so).

        Yes, i agree and i have 2 optin boxes on most ages. Side nav and at the bottom.


        Originally Posted by swords View Post

        However, I suppose if you find the right niche in weight loss that has a low CPC, then it would be worth pursuing.

        I do not believe that there would be any hidden niches in weight loss because everyone has done this, but I suppose if that's what you are shooting for, go for it!
        Yes correct, i actually am using a "long tail keyword" and also the site page is very informative, has a video at the top and the theme is quite fitting. So I am really hoping to make something out of this!

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        Also, let me share with you what I am currently doing for traffic.
        1. Article Marketing, posting manually to EZA and then using AMR to spin & mass distribute. - Heavily, 1 article say every 3 days

        2. Backlinking from profile links - Manually, Moderately

        3. RSS submission

        4. Pinging all backlinks every 2 days

        5. Social bookmark - Very few, manually (Digg, Reddit etc)

        I think I can boost my organic ranking by increasing #2 and #5, but honestly I don't have much money to invest. So, I am mainly focused on article marketing and I wrote few of the 500 word articles myself!

        Also, can anyone recommend me what tool works best for #2 ? (I am talking about automated tools ofcourse)

        Thanks everyone.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by shahriyar View Post

          What are those people actually doing on digitalpoint who are selling like 10,000 UV for $10 ?

          This kind of traffic is either:

          * Expired Domain Traffic - People that go to a domain that has expired and been purchased by another to redirect that traffic to you; OR

          * Bot Traffic - People who have designed software to pretend to visit someone's website, looking like a real person in the site statistics.
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  • Profile picture of the author Resale Rights Ninja
    Don't do it - Paying for so many hits for X amount of dollars doesnt mean a thing. I could do it for you but the traffic would be worthless. I can promise you that the traffic will not convert. You would be throwing money down the toilet.

    You are on the right track with what you are doing. In all honestly it could be a long road ahead for you, although it might not. SEO can be very time consuming, it is also something that can take time. You work on it relentlessly month after month and then analyze your results and adjust accordingly. I have gone after some very competitive keywords month after month for years, and I am still doing it. Some days I rate better than others. It is a constant battle. If you are willing to pay money to increase your traffic first create a plan. Figure out your budget. Then decide what would be the very best way to spend that money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Resale Rights Ninja
    Also put your link in your forum sig (just noticed you didnt have one)
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    • Profile picture of the author shahriyar
      Thats a lot of good advice & info from you guys.

      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      This kind of traffic is either:

      * Expired Domain Traffic - People that go to a domain that has expired and been purchased by another to redirect that traffic to you; OR

      * Bot Traffic - People who have designed software to pretend to visit someone's website, looking like a real person in the site statistics.
      Ah i see, that would hardly convert and bot method is fraud. Thanks for shedding light on this.


      Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja View Post

      Don't do it - Paying for so many hits for X amount of dollars doesnt mean a thing. I could do it for you but the traffic would be worthless. I can promise you that the traffic will not convert. You would be throwing money down the toilet.
      Thanks to you guys, I won't do it now. I was about to waste $20-$30 bucks testing it. Now I would rather buy a WSO with that.

      Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja View Post

      You are on the right track with what you are doing. In all honestly it could be a long road ahead for you, although it might not. SEO can be very time consuming, it is also something that can take time. You work on it relentlessly month after month and then analyze your results and adjust accordingly. I have gone after some very competitive keywords month after month for years, and I am still doing it. Some days I rate better than others. It is a constant battle. If you are willing to pay money to increase your traffic first create a plan. Figure out your budget. Then decide what would be the very best way to spend that money.
      Yes, true. However everyone wants to make is as fast as possible, I am no different lol. And for that I am putting most effort in it, as much as I can and will continue to do so.


      Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja View Post

      Also put your link in your forum sig (just noticed you didnt have one)
      Thanks for pointing out. Will do.

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      A few more things to share and ask,

      1. Right now my article marketing is going well and many of them are indexing or I am pushing them to index by pinging or RSS submission.

      However one important question, is it necessary to ping the already indexed articles or any other backlinks ? The backlink list is big and getting bigger and takes quite LOT of time to ping all of them. So basically i want to know if there is any benefits from pinging the indexed links over and over.

      2. I already know a BIG point in ranking high is lots of backlinks with IP diversity. And I use Paul's backlinks packets or I search on google.

      I find this task the most time consuming and tiresome among other task that i do. If I can speed up this process I think I can improve the whole process.

      I want to use a software for this and possibly one with one time fee as I mentioned earlier i don't have much to spend at this point. I heard of Sick Submitter. What do you guys think of it ? Or do you have any other similar software that you can recommend ?


      Really appreciate all the help I got in this thread.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by shahriyar View Post

        However one important question, is it necessary to ping the already indexed articles or any other backlinks ? The backlink list is big and getting bigger and takes quite LOT of time to ping all of them. So basically i want to know if there is any benefits from pinging the indexed links over and over.

        When you ping, you only need to do it once for each URL.

        All additional pings to a particular URL are a waste of your time and the ping services resources. The latter could get you banned from using the ping services in the future.
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        • Profile picture of the author shahriyar
          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          When you ping, you only need to do it once for each URL.

          All additional pings to a particular URL are a waste of your time and the ping services resources. The latter could get you banned from using the ping services in the future.
          I see.

          But why do sites like pingler.com offers regular pinging ? e.g. "Our crawler will create a list and optionally add it to your account for regular pinging."

          Thanks for your input.
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          • Profile picture of the author tpw
            Originally Posted by shahriyar View Post

            I see.

            But why do sites like pingler.com offers regular pinging ? e.g. "Our crawler will create a list and optionally add it to your account for regular pinging."

            Thanks for your input.

            There are two reasons to ping:

            1) to get the search engines to identify your URL and crawl it. (This is what I was speaking to in my original comments.)

            2) To notify the ping site to put your URL back in front of their audience.

            Ping services of the second type will not ever ban you. Ping services of the first type might.
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            • Profile picture of the author shahriyar
              Originally Posted by tpw View Post

              There are two reasons to ping:

              1) to get the search engines to identify your URL and crawl it. (This is what I was speaking to in my original comments.)

              2) To notify the ping site to put your URL back in front of their audience.

              Ping services of the second type will not ever ban you. Ping services of the first type might.
              I see, interesting. I didn't know that there are 2 cases.

              Do you what type services pingler.com pings to ? sites, search engines or both ?
              I can see the list on the site, but I can't make much of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author vstar00
    be VERY careful if you dont know what your doing with paid traffic.

    Firstly, know your metrics. How many visitors do you need to make a sale? what is that sale worth? So how much are you making per click? What is each click going to cost you? Are you going to make a profit at the cost?

    These are the questions you should be asking yourself.

    Weight loss is a very competitive niche, so I assume clicks will be expensive. And if you have a blog, I doubt (forgive me if I am wrong) your site is converting that well.

    You may be better to push them to a squeeze page and try and convert them on the backend.

    But you need to know your numbers for that too.

    In any event, I have a free 40 min video that will teach you how to set up a basic Adwords campaign - which you should definitely watch before spending a cent as there are many important things I teach which can save you a ton of money.

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    Thanks for the video link. Will check it out.
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