Using Video To Sell Without A Sales Letter... FREE TIPS ADDED!

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I've often pondered this and just thought I'd voice it out here

I'm going to test this out in the future but wondered what your take is on seeing only a video on a site with the buy now link below it and no sales copy whatsoever... I've seen Allen do this with a graphic and order link and as usual sold quite well from what I gathered looking in from outside, I bought the product myself without blinking... don't remember if it was the graphic, title, allen or the price or combination of everything that made me buy, I'm an impulse buyer so that would be hard to pin down.

Anyway, I've been wondering how this would work with videos, since they appear to be massively well accepted these days unlike a few years ago when the hype was all about video being IN, it now appears it really is.

To further push this point, I was just on a warrior's site who had a very good video done (nothing with special effects, well at least not more than a couple simple ones you can do with say camtasia easily), the video lasted about 10 - 15 minutes and it walked me through how he uses his software and how easy/simple it would be to do the same, if it hadn't been for the video, I'd have never jumped on this product, now I have, without even reading a single word of his copy... his video sold me without any hassle whatsoever.

It's probably important to note that I was already interested in the product just needed some PROOF it really was how it was being "hyped up" so the video did that and I prefer that by the way to screen shots that don't always give the full picture and can even be manipulated etc... not that videos can't be, but hopefully you get where I'm going...

Perhaps I'm just jaded since I've read so many letters in my Internet lifetime that now all I want to do is sit back sometimes and watch a short, well made, very explanatory video that does the job for me so I don't have read till my eyes fall out of my head.

BOTTOM LINE: I just want the product so if you can show and tell your pitch to me, I might be willing to sit, watch, listen and even buy if the product is what I want and I'm convinced you're not yanking my chain.. and if the video is well made (not necessarily professionally made, just good sound quality, good lighting, not too much moving about and not too much of making me stare at the same thing for more than 1 - 2 minutes tops)... just your average well produced video.

I'm going to test this myself and see if others feel like I do, there will be many factors to consider I'm sure, but all the same, I will be testing this and will inform you of results later... It's an interesting thing to try since writing letters is not that easy for many folks, maybe making videos will be easier?

Just FYI, I'm not one of the latter, I'm a copywriter and my letters have worked brilliantly in the past, but now I'm wondering if I don't just want to be a video salesman and leave it at that...

Your thoughts anyone?

Cheers,

Kunle
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  • Profile picture of the author Kunle Olomofe
    LOL... something just occurred to me after I hit submit on the above post...

    I could have actually done that post as a video and posted it right here for you to watch and post your comments or your videos as a response..

    Laughing.. that would be something to see.. the search engines may not index many posts but it would be finally cool to put faces to some of these posts or at best voices... hmm, I am getting lazier and lazier these days...

    But then again, IM does get you that way, the easiest way always wins...

    Anyways, what do you think? Video or Writing? Or Both together?

    What would you prefer to use and see out there...

    Cheers,

    Kunle
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  • Profile picture of the author goindeep
    Frank Kern does this with almost all his opt ins and its obviously working very well for him. Frank seems to always be thinking about what is more attractive to the prospect and hes certainly right in thinking that video is more enticing than a sales letter.

    I just makes me feel more secure when i see a guy pitching something from his own office for some reason. Traffic Geyser seem to have some good offers in the way of increasing traffic through video and also shooting, uploading and selling through the vids.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kunle Olomofe
      Originally Posted by GoinDeep View Post

      Frank Kern does this with almost all his opt ins and its obviously working very well for him. Frank seems to always be thinking about what is more attractive to the prospect and hes certainly right in thinking that video is more enticing than a sales letter.

      I just makes me feel more secure when i see a guy pitching something from his own office for some reason. Traffic Geyser seem to have some good offers in the way of increasing traffic through video and also shooting, uploading and selling through the vids.
      Good point about Frank, I just googled him and found a page where I'm watching a video and about to sign up for something, he's funny, which helps to make me feel better about his offer... he still has tons of writing on this particular page so that puts me off, but I like the video and WILL sign up once I'm done watching... I think this thing really might work... interesting.

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  • Profile picture of the author J.Knight
    There's no doubt video can be effective in ways the written word can not.

    However, I would not advise doing away with written copy altogether. It's not wise.

    There are countless millions who are still on dialup, or are browsing with mobile internet with severely limited download restrictions.

    We need to keep everyone in mind if we want to maximise conversions.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kunle Olomofe
      Originally Posted by J.Knight View Post

      There's no doubt video can be effective in ways the written word can not.

      However, I would not advise doing away with written copy altogether. It's not wise.

      There are countless millions who are still on dialup, or are browsing with mobile internet with severely limited download restrictions.

      We need to keep everyone in mind if we want to maximise conversions.

      JK
      I live in Nigeria where Internet access is "acceptable" at best which means don't always count on it being fast or even being on... and I'm on broadband (started off with dial up 2 years ago which wasn't that bad, I think pages loaded relatively fast even then).

      Now, I've lived in Russia, Poland and the UK and never experienced Internet access as bad as here, and truth is back then I was on dial up (in my moscow days - late 90's)... Anyway, I'm thinking, you might be right about dial up, but if down here where Internet access is not very reliable I'm considering the kind of radical move I have in mind, I'm sure dial up users will not be that much of a problem... in fact I'm willing to bet lots of my market are on broadband too and not dial up... I may be proved wrong, but I doubt it...

      YouTube and all the other video sites would not be so popular if dial up was still an issue for many millions as it may seem... I have no stats to work with so can't make any solid arguments against or for dial up, but from what I can see of the market, that will be the least of my problems...

      I AM willing to test as I said, it's the only way to know anything for sure.

      Test. I plan to. Sorry to any dial up users (I may consider making a page for them if I feel so inclined), I'm just getting too lazy to care I guess

      No hard feelings.

      Kunle

      PS: I might even add a poll to this just to see broadband against dial up ratios
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Doyle
    A lot of people don't like watching long videos. Often, watching something on Video doesn't register as good when you are reading powerful words. I recommend doing it both ways, having a good video to SUPPLEMENT a great *written* salescopy!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kunle Olomofe
      Originally Posted by Nick Doyle View Post

      A lot of people don't like watching long videos. Often, watching something on Video doesn't register as good when you are reading powerful words. I recommend doing it both ways, having a good video to SUPPLEMENT a great *written* salescopy!
      I agree, I don't much care for long videos either, but I don't classify 7, 10, 15 minutes as long.. I think it's just long enough to share the most important facts, but I hear you... one may not be able to completely eliminate copy, and maybe one shouldn't for the sake of those who love to read and maybe even those who are hard of hearing etc... I will put these into consideration Nick, thanks for your comments...

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      • Profile picture of the author jjpmarketing
        I disagree on your opinion of long, Kunle. For a sales pitch I would keep the video to under 2 minutes and supplement it with a 1 page sales letter. 5 minutes is still okay, but anything longer than 5 minutes would be too long.

        If you feel it takes longer than 5 minutes to sell your product, then use an opt in form to send potential customers the remainder of your sales video.
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        • Profile picture of the author MeTellYou
          Originally Posted by jjpmarketing View Post

          I disagree on your opinion of long, Kunle. For a sales pitch I would keep the video to under 2 minutes and supplement it with a 1 page sales letter. 5 minutes is still okay, but anything longer than 5 minutes would be too long.

          If you feel it takes longer than 5 minutes to sell your product, then use an opt in form to send potential customers the remainder of your sales video.
          I totally agree. I always used to think that long videos are the greatest, but I have repented well from that A short video and a sales letter is the way to go.
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Lundergan
      Originally Posted by Nick Doyle View Post

      A lot of people don't like watching long videos. Often, watching something on Video doesn't register as good when you are reading powerful words. I recommend doing it both ways, having a good video to SUPPLEMENT a great *written* salescopy!

      After the pre-launch and/or on the copy, I agree when it comes time to sell and/or after the opt-in. Vin Montello and I did a call about this exact concept. Having both is almost like a "double trigger."
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      • Profile picture of the author Ralf Skirr
        You'd most certainly lose me as a customer. (and everybody else who prefers written information)

        I'm time sensitive and it takes only 2 minutes to go through the same amount of written information that would take 10 minutes in video.

        If I arrive at a site that has nothing but video I usually leave right away. The only exception is if the video has been pre-sold through a campaign.

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  • Profile picture of the author LonNaylor
    This discussion has been had many times...

    There are always the valid reasons of bandwidth, max. user appeal, etc. against using video only.

    But, invariably, there will be those that comment that they don't like watching videos. Fair enough...some just like to skim and read but:

    My only point here will be that: "People don't like watching CRAPPY videos."

    A masterfully scripted (read that as "sales copy") video produced in an efficient format for delivery, is a beautiful sales tool.

    The biggest problem is that many folks gravitate to "easy" and "quick" video creation. Quality is foreign to many of these marketers...and by quality I don't mean slick, glitzy, effects and such.

    I mean the message (Compelling and benefit oriented?)...watchability (does it engage?)...overall video and audio quality (an assault on the eyes and ears?)...psychological buy-button-pushing power will rule the day when used properly...
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  • Profile picture of the author mymarketingsecret
    Michael Cheney does it and is teaching others to do it with the Golden Thread. It was a great success for him and video is the way of Marketing for many Internet Marketers. I gather you will do great with just video instead of a long sales letter.
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      Hi.
      I bought the golden thread also. I wanted to discuss the program with other members so I am searching everyone out, there is much to discuss don't you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author J. Barry Mandel
    It's a balance.

    If you are Allen and people know you push out a good product and have a following with a great reputation then yes a video with order buttom might be all you need.

    A warrior posted a wso with only a video and link to his salesletter and bombed miserably.

    Of course the best thing to do is test several salesletters with different set ups.

    For me I'd much rather scroll through a long sales letter than forward through a long video that is IF there is controls to do so!
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    • Profile picture of the author David_Thompson
      I just finish watching a video from Mike Filsaime about his new product
      which he is partnering with some English bloke and the video is about
      37 minutes long...

      It's not the first video salesletter Mike has done that is long, to be honest
      it bores the crap out of me but I'm not the type of person Mike is marketing too.

      So it all has to do with your market.

      I saw Alex Jefferys do the same thing 37 minutes long video selling
      a mentorship site again for me way to long but it might work for him
      in his market.

      You have to test and see whether it works in your niche... Now if they
      didn't work for people like Mike and Kern then they wouldn't do it.

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      • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
        Video marketing has a tendency to freeze-out people who
        live in remote areas and have to use dial-up... and they HAVE MONEY!

        Yeah, use it. I get bored quickly by video pitches even though
        I use them myself... and I think it's trickier to make a good video
        script than write a salesletter.

        It depends on what you are selling and to who. Some people
        basically don't read anything so video and audio is the only way
        to reach them - so look at the age-demographic of your market
        and also look at how the decision to buy your product will be
        processed in the mind of the prospect.
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  • Profile picture of the author novasoft
    Video is great if its used to demonstrate a proof of concept, but a lot of folk these days try to emulate Kern and make videos with their ugly mugs on screen... ramble, mumble and kill the sale.

    A few people can pull off being funny and soft selling you at the same time, I think it was Jim Edwards who started this trend with his Friday smackdown or something.. don't recall the name.

    And again a screencap or a small presentation works well even if the viewers bandwidth is not very good, but I still see videos from gurus where the gist of whole damn video could have been summarized in 2 sentences, but I was made to download a 70 mb file and all the inanane filler with those 2 sentences of information... gets frustrating at times...

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  • Profile picture of the author Kunle Olomofe
    I will stick with my jaded beliefs for now, at least until till I can prove them wrong myself (for my target audience(s)) with a few well planned tests.

    Thanks to everyone who posted so far, it's definitely a worthwhile debate.

    Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author Kunle Olomofe
    Ok, I know I started this thread trying to encourage video sales marketing without sales letters, but I just stumbled on this God aweful boring video demonstration of a really cool software I wanted, but after watching this terribly sickening video where this guy is just going on and on, loving the sound of his own voice, it has PUT ME OFF getting the software!

    Ouch..! The video is 25 minutes long... About 20 minutes too long for what he is demonstrating... He repeated himself so often I felt I would throw up from the repetitive drone of his voice!

    Forgive me, but I really feel sick when I see stuff like this...

    If you're having similar problems to this guy, here's some advice...

    1. If you can demonstrate in 5 minutes don't spend 10 minutes doing it.

    2. Don't talk to your audience like you're sitting in a cafe gisting with a close friend... talk friendly but be professional, stop going on and on and on about the same thing, just GET TO THE POINT AND MAKE YOUR POINT FAST. If they miss it they can hit REWIND... no need to repeat yourself over and over.

    3. Don't walk people watching through EVERY STEP IN DETAIL... No one wants to watch you build something from scratch to finish that takes 1 hour to complete... even 15 minutes, just share the necessary basics and skip to the next interesting step, If a step will take 2 minutes to complete, spend 30 seconds showing the basics and then move on to the next step and let them know it will take 2 minutes in real time but for demo purposes you're sharing 30 seconds of video time ... you get the point... Just get to the point.

    Hmm... I might make a free video about this ...

    Anyway there's probably lots more to share, others might be interested to do so, but I'll share when I have some time to add more content and advice.

    For now... forgive my outburst but please if you'll be making video sales presentations, keep us viewers in mind,

    Cheers,

    Kunle
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Lundergan
    I recently did a 3 part video series for a pre-launch for a warrior that had 0% salescopy on each of the opt-in pages.

    We made sure to match the message to the market (under 3 minutes each) and the pacing was to match that of a movie trailer.

    The result was a 64% opt-in rate for the first video and around 50-60% opt-in rate for the second and third. The % was so high because I made sure during the whole process to keep the flow and pacing (along with constant text highlights with the thunderous sound effect when the text came in to keep in tune).

    Adding that bit of entertainment related value tends to keep people drawn in...a cool intro, effect, etc.

    I even started the video series with, "In a world..." just like the movie trailers so viewers could continue to relate.

    In regards to screenshot videos for the marketer who wants to show their screen, having the bullet points, flow, "a general rundown", related text and info that they'll need all within an eye or mouseclick outside the screen capture helps tremendously so the person producing the video can stay in flow without hiccups.



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  • Profile picture of the author Derek S
    I am using video on my sales pages and find it works best when you have great sales copy but place the video of yourself below the headline to grab attention.

    - Use video of yourself and not just all screen capture

    - Know what your talking about and just "shoot from the hip"

    - Every idea your getting across works best when your in a different location on camera so it keeps things fresh and to hold attention.

    - Only talk about benefits and cut out all rambling, personal opinions and all the "uumm's" &"aaahhhh's"

    - Keep the video under 5 minutes in length and you will have made the visitors experience more personal and if you come off like you know what your talking about it helps build credibility!

    I think people abuse screen capture and drag out what they want to say way to much, giving video a bad rep.

    If you do it right it will make a big impact!

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  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    My thoughts... umm... have you ever heard of TV... the commercials seem to do quite well...

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  • Profile picture of the author Li Weng
    Hey it's much easier for someone to watch a visual presentation than to read a bunch of text.

    Video also gives you that opportunity to build that connection, especially if you can show your face in the video. It adds to the level of trust.
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    • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
      You should test it and see if it works.

      No, really. What sounds great on paper may not work out, or it might work really well. You never know until you try it and see.
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