by nikson
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Hi,

lets say I have fresh list of 500-1000 subscribers (they sub. because of free product). How do you approach them?
I was thinking with some cpa lead offer for a start?

How to write good but not hype/spammy sales/lead leter? That people feel like I talking'writing this just for them?


Thank for tips!

p.s.: I didnt find any good similar thread about this on the forum buy maybe I overlooked smth .. you can post link!
#email #marketing
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by nikson View Post

    How do you approach them?
    Quickly, regularly, and offering as much value to them as possible, that's as closely connected to whatever they opted in for as possible.

    "Quickly" is a big point. Any list can readily become non-responsive if you don't maintain regular contact.

    Originally Posted by nikson View Post

    I was thinking with some cpa lead offer for a start?
    "For a start", I offer them more content, more value, and make them want to open my emails and look forward to them.

    After they opt in, I typically send autoresponder email on days 1, 3, 6, 10 and 15 and thereafter at 5 or 6 day intervals. I generally include some sort of offer/recommendation/pre-sell in about one message in three, and not filling the whole message.

    Originally Posted by nikson View Post

    How to write good but not hype/spammy sales/lead leter? That people feel like I talking'writing this just for them?
    Difficult to generalise. It depends on who they are, how they found you, how/why they originally opted in, and so on. It varies not only from niche to niche but from traffic source to source, to some extent. For example, people attracted by a long, informative article about a complicated subject are going to need a different style of email from people looking for a quick fix one-off solution to a pressing problem, who found you through a PPC ad. (The latter group need very fast follow-up, otherwise they'll buy through someone else/somewhere else).

    I don't suggest that people can't be gifted at both, but pre-selling is a very different writing skill from selling, for sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      After they opt in, I typically send autoresponder email on days 1, 3, 6, 10 and 15 and thereafter at 5 or 6 day intervals. I generally include some sort of offer/recommendation/pre-sell in about one message in three, and not filling the whole message.
      Alexa, I take it that you load up your autoresponder with at least a dozen prewritten emails or more so that it takes the guesswork out of following up with your list at the intervals which you have indicated above? I know some people prefer to send out broadcasts instead, but I suppose there are pros and cons to each approach.
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    • Profile picture of the author carolynblake
      Alexa said "Quickly, regularly, and offering as much value to them as possible, that's as closely connected to whatever they opted in for as possible....Quickly" is a big point. Any list can readily become non-responsive if you don't maintain regular contact...For a start, I offer them more content, more value, and make them want to open my emails and look forward to them....
      After they opt in, I typically send autoresponder email on days 1, 3, 6, 10 and 15 and thereafter at 5 or 6 day intervals. I generally include some sort of offer/recommendation/pre-sell in about one message in three, and not filling the whole message."

      Hi Alexa, I was taught to email every day for 2 weeks. I am new at this so I am committed to employing the best use of my follow up emails. My sense is that every day is too often. I only have a few subscribers yet..site has been up about 2 months. How did you arrive at the interval sequence you use?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by carolynblake View Post

        My sense is that every day is too often.
        Mine too, instinctively.

        But it does depend on who the people are and what they were looking for. If they're people with a really immediate and drastic problem ("house foreclosure" niche?) then they're looking for something immediate and my timetable above is going to be too slow: you'd lose them to someone else.

        My belief is that, in general, people who send an email every day for the first 2 weeks, without having made it clear at the opt-in stage that that's what going to happen, are going to get some "unsubscribes"; and they're going to justify it to themselves by pretending that those people "wouldn't have been customers anyway" and/or that they'll do better out of the others who remain that way, so it's worth it. Call me a skepchick but I don't believe a word of it, and strangely(?) they often haven't actually tested it properly but are copying it from people from also haven't actually tested it properly.

        Originally Posted by carolynblake View Post

        How did you arrive at the interval sequence you use?
        I did some testing in 4 of my 8 niches (it's really difficult to test, especially when you're not attracting very large numbers! ), including asking subscribers, and gradually realised that about once every 5 days was probably going to maintain open-rates and interest, and minimise opt-outs, and still enable me to do what I wanted.

        But I wouldn't start off at one email every 5 days, because I think that'll make a list unresponsive as it's not enough when they're "new and fresh and interested". So I had to have a way of getting from immediate contact to once in 5 days, and decided intervals of 1, 2, 3, 4 and then 5 days would do it. And it seemed to work better than anything else I tried.

        In other words, a bit of testing, a bit of asking subscribers and a bit of guesswork. Nothing terribly useful there, perhaps.

        In my case, although all my niches are totally unrelated, I'm attracting the same "end of the market" (i.e. related subscriber demographics) in every niche I touch, because of the way I attract the people to my lists in the first place, and this is obviously significant.

        I'm specifically aiming - in all my niches - at attracting predominantly upmarket, educated, literate, affluent, middle-aged, English-speaking people some of whom perhaps have slight reluctance to buy online (i.e. often won't buy from others but might from me) and want to learn about the subject, too ... because I'm an article marketer and that's the style in which I can naturally write anyway. It's an enormous market which perhaps comparatively few other affiliate marketers specifically address, I think. My suspicion is that it's widely and wrongly believed that this is a too-small and too-limited end of the market. I'm basically writing "for my parents and people like them". I do think that "who the people are and how you attract them" is probably highly relevant to the answer to this question.
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        • Profile picture of the author carolynblake
          Great answer full of valuable information. I am going to try your 1,2,3,4,5 intervals and see what happens. Always great to be able to benefit from another's experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Alexa nailed it on the head for sure!

    Instead of thinking of ways to make money off your list (and pitch them things without coming across sleezy) you need to ask yourself "what kind of information and advice can I GIVE to my list so that they ENJOY opening messages from me."

    That's the difference between getting great results and coming back to the WF frustrated that nothing is working.

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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    Alexa is right about keeping constant contact. If you don't, then your list will go stale. Rather than trying to figure out what to sell your list members, try and get to know them or, more importantly, let them get to know you. You can do this by providing them with good emails that solve a problem or provide information. Also, poll them and ask them what their problems are. This way, you know what solutions to provide and eventually what types of products to sell to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author vstar00
    triangle of trust is a good method (kern). Create a blog, then post a video, then email them to the video. do this a few times with kick ass videos.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonAlfredsson
    My main rule of thumb in terms of email marketing is just to sound personal in sending out the mails. This is important in building relationships with your lead and getting them to work with you. make sure to place your blogs and sites for them to visit.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    1) Dont spam them or keep offering them crappy products. That is the quickest way to fail and get unsubcribes and waste all the hard work getting your subsribers in the first place.

    2) Make sure you are giving them proof. I have found that all the emails I see, I get nice amounts of affilaite sales. But The ones that really bring home the bacon, are the ones that show results in advance. if you do this, and show them proof or other such things, you will kill it online. Once people see proof it is like a little bomb goes off in their brain and they think, "If I could just have one tenth the success of that person, I will be successful" that is the thing. You have to send stuff out that makes these bombs go off in their mind.

    I call these fence sitters....if you can get them off the fence and into your sales funnel...you will become successful. Maybe even more successful than you ever imagined.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nickolie0990
    Here's something that I've used and works like a charm. I call it my survey sale, and it is a market research as well as a way to sell stuff.

    Simply create a survey, and center the questions around the end result of what you are trying to promote. So if it is a make money over the internet course, then you could ask a question like:

    "How Would You Feel If You Were Making Enough Money From The Internet?"

    The point is to put them into the state of succeeding, thus will make them more open to looking at your offer. It's a little weird but it works.

    You could just send them and email saying I need your help, then have them complete the survey, and after they complete the survey, send them to your offer. But remember the point of the survey is to get them in the emotional state of "Positive Expectancy" (I hope I spelled that correct).

    Hope that helps
    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author DanRenyi
    Yea, Nickolie mentioned an important point: surveys. Besides being a great way to sneak messages into your prospects' minds, there's a huge possibility for you to get to know what they want, how they want it, when etc...

    So I'd start by building a relationship and once you've done enough cool deeds and favors for them, shoot out a survey. You can even segment your list according to what they answer (their preferences and stuff). That will allow you to target messages at them and be very very efficient without annoying anyone unecessarily.

    Go for it!
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  • Profile picture of the author YoichiSpeaks
    You can wear out your list by offering just products to buy unless they are that type of buyers list.

    Depending on how you got your list, how would you spark up a one on one conversation with an individual from that list? How would you convince them to buy from you?

    Building a relationship with the list will get you wealthy.
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  • Profile picture of the author incomeguru
    You need to know what exactly your subscribers want, then wisely offer it to them, because if it is what they don't want, am afraid you might lost some of your subscribers.
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  • Profile picture of the author JHC81
    If they're brand new to your list I wouldn't send out any CPA offers just yet. I would send them free quality information first, they need to trust you and think of you as an expert before they will take on your CPA offers.
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