Clickbank affiliate sales prediction

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Hi,

I am going to start affiliates now. Clickbank is asking $49.95 for it. Can any expert warrior predict sales of my software? Because I don't want to waste my $50. Or any other clickbank alternative that allows no initial payment before sales. I asked clickbank to charge me $50 from my first few sales but they refused.

So, please either some estimated prediction of sales on clickbank or suggest any alternative that does not take money beforehand.

The software I want to sell is a Press Release Submission software with automatic captcha decoding and submission reports on 100 pr sites: Press Release Submitter - The Best Online Marketing Software
#clickbank #prediction #sale
  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    You will make 6.4 sales for a profit ratio of 6 to 1. Is that what you were looking for?
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    • Profile picture of the author ankitnagpal
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      You will make 6.4 sales for a profit ratio of 6 to 1. Is that what you were looking for?
      sorry I did not get "6.4 sales for a profit ratio of 6 to 1"
      Please some explanation.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by softsolutions View Post

        sorry I did not get "6.4 sales for a profit ratio of 6 to 1"
        Please some explanation.
        He was joking, Ankit. He was saying to you "How can anyone here possibly know this information about your product when you don't know it yourself? If they gave you figures, they could only be making them up, you know?" He has a point, too.
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        • Profile picture of the author ankitnagpal
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          He was joking, Ankit. He was saying to you "How can anyone here possibly know this information about your product when you don't know it yourself? If they gave you figures, they could only be making them up, you know?" He has a point, too.
          I replied only after seeing his 1000s of post count. that man is !@$##%^%&
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          • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
            Originally Posted by softsolutions View Post

            I replied only after seeing his 1000s of post count. that man is !@$##%^%&
            My ex-wife says the same thing about me.
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Well, he's an East Coaster turned Gulf Coaster, you know? That's not the same as being a drinks coaster at all. He doesn't specify a country, though, so I can only assume that he used to live somewhere like Volos or Katerini, but he's now moved south, to the Saronic Gulf.
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              • Profile picture of the author ankitnagpal
                you all are playing with me. may god curse you. and you do not get any gifts from Santa.
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                • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                  We're only chatting/gossipping, here ... absolutely no hostility at all. It's just that nobody here can possibly answer what you asked, I'm afraid.

                  I wish you well with it, though. And as I said above, I think it might help you to look at e-Junkie.
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                • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
                  Originally Posted by softsolutions View Post

                  may god curse you.
                  Are you sure that you aren't my ex-wife? You sound just like her.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                    Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

                    Originally Posted by softsolutions View Post

                    may god curse you.
                    Are you sure that you aren't my ex-wife? You sound just like her.
                    He didn't specify which god. He could mean Proteus. I bet you could take Proteus. I think he was the god voted "Most Likely to be Beaten Up by Mere Mortals" by all the other gods.
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                    • Profile picture of the author ankitnagpal
                      Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                      He didn't specify which god. He could mean Proteus. I bet you could take Proteus. I think he was the god voted "Most Likely to be Beaten Up by Mere Mortals" by all the other gods.
                      No I meant Hades. His is the god of potent curses including permanent ban from warriorforum.
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                • Profile picture of the author iainvw
                  Originally Posted by softsolutions View Post

                  you all are playing with me. may god curse you. and you do not get any gifts from Santa.
                  Well, Ankit, the God I'm familiar with doesn't generally curse people to order, and I don't believe in Santa.

                  Rather than cursing people or trying to cause curses to come upon them, perhaps you should pose a carefully thought-out (ie sensible) question. You're much more likely to get a sensible answer.

                  Actually, I think Alexa's last post was actually a gentle dig directed at Brian, for the implicit assumption that all his readers are American.

                  And Alexa, would that be the final final avatar, or can we look forward to more variations over the coming days? (Oh no, another gentle dig... )

                  Iain
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                  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                    Originally Posted by iainvw View Post

                    I don't believe in Santa.
                    Sometimes the depth of sheer skepticism in this place appals me ...
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                    • Profile picture of the author iainvw
                      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                      Sometimes the depth of sheer skepticism in this place appals me ...
                      Oh, I'm so sorry... did I let the cat out of the bag?
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              • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
                Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                I can only assume that he used to live somewhere like Volos or Katerini, but he's now moved south, to the Saronic Gulf.
                Yup. You nailed it.
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                • Profile picture of the author doylesoft
                  I have had dozens of sales. So yes, the $49.95 was a great return on investment in my case. And in my experience, Clickbank has been great to work with over the years.

                  You need to decide if you have a viable product and a hungry market for it. Find out what success means to "you"... not someone else's standard of success.

                  Good luck!
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                  • Profile picture of the author ankitnagpal
                    Originally Posted by doylesoft View Post

                    I have had dozens of sales. So yes, the $49.95 was a great return on investment in my case. And in my experience, Clickbank has been great to work with over the years.

                    You need to decide if you have a viable product and a hungry market for it. Find out what success means to "you"... not someone else's standard of success.

                    Good luck!
                    Hi, thanks for the reply. my software are listed in plimus.com marketplace but not many are being sold by affiliates. I am assuming that clickbank has an army of supercharged affiliates that will sell my software to every second internet user in this world. I don't know. just dreaming.

                    There must be some difference in quality of affiliate network between plimus and clickbank
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                    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                      Originally Posted by softsolutions View Post

                      Hi, thanks for the reply. my software are listed in plimus.com marketplace but not many are being sold by affiliates. I am assuming that clickbank has an army of supercharged affiliates that will sell my software to every second internet user in this world. I don't know. just dreaming.
                      If that's your assumption, don't do it.

                      If you want quality affiliates, you're going to need to do some recruiting. You can't just rely on Clickbank to bring them to you. You'll get people promoting it, yes, but they may not necessarily be quality affiliates that will send you traffic that will actually convert. There are tons of products for sale on Clickbank. You're just one straw in a hay stack. If you want the "supercharged affiliates" then you will need to get their attention.
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                      • Profile picture of the author ankitnagpal
                        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                        If that's your assumption, don't do it.

                        If you want quality affiliates, you're going to need to do some recruiting. You can't just rely on Clickbank to bring them to you. You'll get people promoting it, yes, but they may not necessarily be quality affiliates that will send you traffic that will actually convert. There are tons of products for sale on Clickbank. You're just one straw in a hay stack. If you want the "supercharged affiliates" then you will need to get their attention.
                        yes, absolutely correct. most of the affiliates on plimus.com are software download sites who are very passive in bringing traffic. May be I need to find an affiliate who really knows how to bring targeted traffic.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                          Originally Posted by softsolutions View Post

                          May be I need to find an affiliate who really knows how to bring targeted traffic.
                          This helps a lot. (Affiliates or JV partners, anyway.)

                          However, it's not easy as a new vendor without a track-record in affiliate sales to attract the attention of such affiliates.

                          It's always a slightly confused and confusing subject to discuss in forums, because the reality tends to be that there are about 10% of the affiliate-force who can bring in about 90% of your affiliate-referred sales, but it's nearly always the other 90% who join in the discussions and get noticed more (because there are more of them, obviously enough).

                          Well, look: since we're talking, albeit invoking various Deities while we do so, I have no idea whether this will help you, or even interest you, but here's a list of what I'm looking for as an affiliate.

                          Obviously I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd like to think that this list is not too far off being representative of what "serious, successful affiliates" are typically looking for in a product, before promoting it. And this will be true at Clickbank, at e-Junkie and/or wherever else you sell it ...
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                    • Profile picture of the author markowe
                      Originally Posted by softsolutions View Post

                      Hi, thanks for the reply. my software are listed in plimus.com marketplace but not many are being sold by affiliates. I am assuming that clickbank has an army of supercharged affiliates that will sell my software to every second internet user in this world. I don't know. just dreaming.

                      There must be some difference in quality of affiliate network between plimus and clickbank
                      I think you are generally right, Clickbank IS far more 'happening' and if you find some decent JV partners and sell them on your product and get them to promote it, that $50 will be NOTHING compared to what you will earn. Your product doesn't sound TOTALLY unique, but if it does the job, you should be able to sell PLENTY! Listen to this interview with Andy Hussong about how to promote a product, get super-affiliates to promote it etc. Doing JV Partnerships and Affiliate Programs Right - Interview w/ Andy Hussong It's free, but it's information that you can use to start selling your product FOR REAL - in the hundreds instead of a trickle!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by softsolutions View Post

    Can any expert warrior predict sales of my software?
    Not reliably, no.

    You need to test everything (especially the sales page conversion!) before trying to attract affiliates, anyway.

    Listing your product at Clickbank won't in itself bring you affiliates: it will just provide you with the payment-handling mechanism for them when you attract them. You still need to attract them, but you need to know that the sales page converts, first.

    If the $50 is an issue, have a look at e-Junkie instead of Clickbank, perhaps? (You can have affiliates there, too, though you have to handle their payments yourself).
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay norestin
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    hmm... the only thing you can predict in affiliate marketing is there is no prediction... You might have to do some tweaking and optimizing according to your buyers.... If you dont want to waiste $50.. Good luck..Welcome to the club..
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  • Profile picture of the author Vijay M
    If you don't want to pay the 50, yet want the ability to hand out affiliate links .. e-junkie could be an option.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    This thread is hilarious. Seriously, your question is almost as bad as a kid asking, "How high is the sky? Does it have a ceiling?"

    Clickbank is a marketplace, just like a physical marketplace, except that it sells digital goods instead of physical ones. If you were to rent a store in a physical marketplace for a day to sell your goods, do you think the owner/renter will promise you a certain amount of sales at the end of the day?

    Now let's go back to Clickbank. You're paying a one-time fee that allows you to sell your digital product for as long as you want there. Do you seriously think that they're going to guarantee you a certain number of sales there? How is listing your product for sale on Clickbank any different from renting a store in a physical marketplace to sell your goods? No one is going to be able to guarantee you sales, period.

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  • Profile picture of the author keyuria
    I would like to recommend Paydotcom.com if you are really interested in selling like the way you described. Also you need to make two things perfect. 1) Make the affiliate page 2) Find the affiliates.

    These are the two challenges you have at the moment. Understand one thing, you are going to make the sales page or landing page and the affiliate page once and for good. SO try to put maximum effort and techniques to make it effective, nice, encouraging and catchy. Remember to target the emotions. That is the key to your success.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrey
      Originally Posted by keyuria View Post

      I would like to recommend Paydotcom.com if you are really interested in selling like the way you described. Also you need to make two things perfect. 1) Make the affiliate page 2) Find the affiliates.

      These are the two challenges you have at the moment. Understand one thing, you are going to make the sales page or landing page and the affiliate page once and for good. SO try to put maximum effort and techniques to make it effective, nice, encouraging and catchy. Remember to target the emotions. That is the key to your success.
      This is all great. I am sorry and I don't want to disappoint any one, but there is one huge but hidden point about all this affiliate staff. I couldn't understand it for long until I found this video. .

      I think it is literally impossible for complete newbie(i think you @softsolutions are the one, because you are thinking too much about 50 bucks) to get their product out there very successfully unless it is something magic. Ofcource if you understand all hidden parts of process and you have team or contacts it could definitely help.

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  • Profile picture of the author Paleochora
    Personally I would steer clear of Clickbank. I dislike them intensely and do not trust them as far as I can spit.

    Try PayDotCom or Payspree for a much more attractive deal
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    • Profile picture of the author ankitnagpal
      Originally Posted by Paleochora View Post

      Personally I would steer clear of Clickbank. I dislike them intensely and do not trust them as far as I can spit.

      Try PayDotCom or Payspree for a much more attractive deal
      ok. going for Payspree and paydotcom.
      thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
    Clickbank? What's clickbank?

    Is that the affiliate network MENTIONED IN THOUSANDS OF GUIDES, and known BY MILLIONS OF AFFILIATE MARKETERS?

    I think it is, and PURELY because of what's stated above, YES IT'S WORTH THE MEESILY $50!

    Think about all the affiliates who don't have to SIGN UP to another affiliate program just to promote yours.

    They grab your clickbank link, DONE.

    And you know, there's TWO entire sections of this forum that you must have not noticed!

    First place is, the JV SECTION. Want affiliates, go there.

    The second place is, THE AFFILIATE PROGRAM SECTION. Want affiliates, post your ad there.

    Very simple really, you'd be crazy not to put your product on the most popular affiliate marketing digital product network on the Internet for the insane cost of $50 for LIFE!

    I bet thousands of marketers would be willing to pay $50 PER MONTH to have their products listed there.

    And if you're REALLY serious about making some money and recruiting affiliates, why not submit your product to multiple networks?

    Unfortunately, even in the IM game, if you wanna make the big bucks, you gotta spend some money. $50 is a drop in the bucket compared to what can be made once you get just a few affiliates interested in your product.
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    • Profile picture of the author ankitnagpal
      Originally Posted by Adam Roy View Post

      Clickbank? What's clickbank?

      Is that the affiliate network MENTIONED IN THOUSANDS OF GUIDES, and known BY MILLIONS OF AFFILIATE MARKETERS?

      I think it is, and PURELY because of what's stated above, YES IT'S WORTH THE MEESILY $50!

      Think about all the affiliates who don't have to SIGN UP to another affiliate program just to promote yours.

      They grab your clickbank link, DONE.

      And you know, there's TWO entire sections of this forum that you must have not noticed!

      First place is, the JV SECTION. Want affiliates, go there.

      The second place is, THE AFFILIATE PROGRAM SECTION. Want affiliates, post your ad there.

      Very simple really, you'd be crazy not to put your product on the most popular affiliate marketing digital product network on the Internet for the insane cost of $50 for LIFE!

      I bet thousands of marketers would be willing to pay $50 PER MONTH to have their products listed there.

      And if you're REALLY serious about making some money and recruiting affiliates, why not submit your product to multiple networks?

      Unfortunately, even in the IM game, if you wanna make the big bucks, you gotta spend some money. $50 is a drop in the bucket compared to what can be made once you get just a few affiliates interested in your product.
      Hi,
      Thanks for your reply. Actually I am already on plimus.com Its not a big market for affiliates but still pretty good one. The good this is that they do not ask for money beforehand. After purchasing several useless "buy-before-you-try" software, I dislike these schemes now. Only thing that problems me at plimus is that affiliates are very passive. So want a e-comm site with good affiliate network.
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      • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
        I'm not 100% sure how it works, but you might be able to look into Google's Affiliate program, have you tried that?

        Originally Posted by softsolutions View Post

        Hi,
        Thanks for your reply. Actually I am already on plimus.com Its not a big market for affiliates but still pretty good one. The good this is that they do not ask for money beforehand. After purchasing several useless "buy-before-you-try" software, I dislike these schemes now. Only thing that problems me at plimus is that affiliates are very passive. So want a e-comm site with good affiliate network.
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