Selling on eBay/eBay business?

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I'd like to know if anyone here has experience with selling/reselling items on eBay?

I think that I could sell national items, maybe our holiday coins or just resell stuff, but I have never sold anything yet.

Are there some good guides, resources you would recommend that would explain how to set up an ebay business?

Thanks in advance!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Rodman
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    I think the ebay ship has sailed. If you've got stuff to resell and you just want to get rid of it, then it's an ok place to sell. But for my e-commerce sites where I buy from actual distributors/wholesalers, it's not really worth it to sell there. About 3 years ago last time I checked, really the only way you could make money there is by getting creative. And what I mean is, sometimes distibutors would have specials like Buy 3 of these and get 1 free...these were on $300 items. So you sell the 3 at cost and then sell the last one and that's where all your profit was.

    Now I think it's even worse. Ebay has continued to raise fees and there is so much competition that it's not really worth it. It's become more of a dumping ground for liquidators that want to get rid of stuff. Just to give you an idea, the company I used to work at used to dump stuff there at cost before year end.

    I manufacture products in china and sell stuff on my websites. And the margins are fantastic. I'm talking gross margins of 55-75% when I sell on my own site. On ebay for a product I sell for $25 on my site, I can get good volume if I sell at $10-$12. Anything above that and you start hitting serious competition. Now, if I had someone just listing/selling ebay stuff like that, then perhaps it's worth it. But to me there are better ways to put people to work.

    Personally, I'd rather figure out how to increase sales when I'm making $17 per sale rather than just pumping out products at $3 profit per sale.
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    • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
      eBay as a whole is dwindling. Right now, people are becoming invested in running actual eCommerce sites, doing marketing, and much more. Now people who are looking to make real money, are creating online businesses and no longer creating an "eBay business" which is almost an oxymoron. I'm not anti-eBay by any means.

      eBay has just put the grip on it's users. Every little part of eBay where money is to be made, eBay is taking out fees. For example, the most commonly sold item price is $9.99 - but at the cost of $9.99 eBay takes 23% and if you've got competition, then you are pressured into offering stuff like Free Shipping. If you aren't, uneducated buyers can essentially destroy your "business" from within. If you aren't the lowest, you aren't making sales.

      This lady I have been working with over a year (I supply her really nice hand bags from China, non-replicas, not name brand) who lives in Maryland. She was doing $2300 in sales each month and hardly making enough profit to make it worth the 24/7 effort. I loaned her just $5,000, she opened up an actual store, made it really nice looking, and within 4 months she's paid back her loan and hired on 4 people and living a much better lifestyle. Do you think she still sells on eBay? Take a guess.

      My eBay sales have been over $100,000 for the past 4 years, and I'm jumping ship. Even some of the largest Powersellers have been offered NO FEE'S and they aren't staying on eBay either.
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      • Profile picture of the author Eager2SEO
        Originally Posted by FaJeeb View Post

        eBay as a whole is dwindling. Right now, people are becoming invested in running actual eCommerce sites, doing marketing, and much more. Now people who are looking to make real money, are creating online businesses and no longer creating an "eBay business" which is almost an oxymoron. I'm not anti-eBay by any means.

        eBay has just put the grip on it's users. Every little part of eBay where money is to be made, eBay is taking out fees. For example, the most commonly sold item price is $9.99 - but at the cost of $9.99 eBay takes 23% and if you've got competition, then you are pressured into offering stuff like Free Shipping. If you aren't, uneducated buyers can essentially destroy your "business" from within. If you aren't the lowest, you aren't making sales.

        This lady I have been working with over a year (I supply her really nice hand bags from China, non-replicas, not name brand) who lives in Maryland. She was doing $2300 in sales each month and hardly making enough profit to make it worth the 24/7 effort. I loaned her just $5,000, she opened up an actual store, made it really nice looking, and within 4 months she's paid back her loan and hired on 4 people and living a much better lifestyle. Do you think she still sells on eBay? Take a guess.
        Yeah, and the ebay customer mentality is another story....

        So you are giving me an idea with physical products. Find a wholesaler or drop shipper, set up a ecommerce website, SEO it (just like we are taught to do with Amazon) and be your own seller.

        This is nothing new, smart people were doing this in 1995.
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        • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
          Originally Posted by Eager2SEO View Post

          Yeah, and the ebay customer mentality is another story....

          So you are giving me an idea with physical products. Find a wholesaler or drop shipper, set up a ecommerce website, SEO it (just like we are taught to do with Amazon) and be your own seller.

          This is nothing new, smart people were doing this in 1995.
          Smart people, maybe. The common person just looking to make some money each week were not.

          Anything found on AliBaba can be found somewhere else cheaper, as 99% of the people on AliBaba (even those pretending to be manufacturers) are middlemen just looking for a cut.
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    Hey, thanks a lot. I guess eBay is out of the question then.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eager2SEO
    Originally Posted by teamcrunk View Post

    no its not you can make a killing on it. just find a product thats going to sell, find a droship or wholesale. Sell it for less then most people have it and maybe offer something free or a deal like 2 for 1. also if u wanna safe on fees, make your item one cent and the shipping price the actuall price of the item. ebay doesnt take shipping cost only final sale cost. so shipping is profit
    Do you suggest alibaba for products? I see so much there, but then I look on ebay and see hong kong sellers offering products for less with shipping then I could possibly profit. I guess its all a numbers game.

    Also, I hear dealing with ebay customers suck. They practically expect freebies.
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    • Profile picture of the author hashbury
      Originally Posted by Eager2SEO View Post

      Do you suggest alibaba for products? I see so much there, but then I look on ebay and see hong kong sellers offering products for less with shipping then I could possibly profit. I guess its all a numbers game.

      Also, I hear dealing with ebay customers suck. They practically expect freebies.
      Alibaba is very good for finding products, but you need to be careful. There are a lot of scammers, and I only use people that accept paypal.

      I used to have an ebay store with over a 1000 items (most dropshipping), but when they raised the fees, I paid more for listing the items than I actually made.

      I am now down to 50 or so items that I keep instock.
      As far as the customers, they are horrible(most but not all). They are pretty cheap and complain if the item isnt there in 5 days. If you sell a lot of items you will have shipping delays that are out of your control.
      I cant even tell you how many times someone will contact me asking for a discount saying they saw a cheaper price some where else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Rodman
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    Originally Posted by teamcrunk View Post

    no its not you can make a killing on it. just find a product thats going to sell, find a droship or wholesale. Sell it for less then most people have it and maybe offer something free or a deal like 2 for 1. also if u wanna safe on fees, make your item one cent and the shipping price the actuall price of the item. ebay doesnt take shipping cost only final sale cost. so shipping is profit
    Spoken like someone who has never actually dealt with wholesale companies or dropshippers. Or sold on ebay either...cause inflating shipping costs to avoid fees is a big no/no and pretty simple for them to catch.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rich Struck
    You can still make money on eBay but it sure isn't like it was 10 years ago. I miss the old days but if you can find something to specialize in and if you can find something that is in demand, you can still do okay. The customers nowadays tend to suck however and that is the hardest part for me. How people can pay on Monday and expect their item on Tuesday is beyond me but that is how it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
    Between 2002-2006 I used to sell a lot on eBay, mainly in sporting goods niches and antique/vintage collectibles. Now, I occasionally sell something there where I can't get a good price locally at an antique auction/mall, consignment store or flea market but that's only a few times a year.

    For example, I can take a few cases fishing gear to a local flea market, pay $35-$75 for a table and be sold out within a few hours and have cash in hand. Selling that same amount of stuff on eBay would take weeks and involve shipping stuff (or paying drop shipping fees), dealing with customer service issues and paying a lot more in fees than the cost of the table at the flea market.

    Today, eBay is a lot more trouble than it's worth unless you're going into online sales of physical products big time. Even then, you'll find it better to use eBay sales as loss leaders to funnel traffic toward your own ecommerce site and building a buyers email list.
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    • Profile picture of the author OPLeads
      This is the right thinking. Funnel them to your own site & email list ...

      Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

      Today, eBay is a lot more trouble than it's worth unless you're going into online sales of physical products big time. Even then, you'll find it better to use eBay sales as loss leaders to funnel traffic toward your own ecommerce site and building a buyers email list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Devid Farah
    Originally Posted by LetsGoViral View Post


    I'd like to know if anyone here has experience with selling/reselling items on eBay?

    I think that I could sell national items, maybe our holiday coins or just resell stuff, but I have never sold anything yet.

    Are there some good guides, resources you would recommend that would explain how to set up an ebay business?

    Thanks in advance!
    Hi James,

    I sold a lot on eBay,this has been an incredible business for me!

    Maybe today it's not like 8 years ago...but personally i think eBay still offer the opportunity to make thousands and also develop a million dollar business!

    Anyway a top guide i strongly recommend you is "eBay Global-the smart way" by Joseph T. Sinclair and Ron Ubels!

    I have learned a lot from this guide and it is extremely helpful for beginners!

    Best of luck!
    Devid
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  • Profile picture of the author keyuria
    eBay has not sinked but almost on the brink of sinking. Now to earn from eBay you should be more creative and you need to have a book called Auction Mercenary. That book reveals how to make money from eBay using other people's mistakes.

    There are several people who do not have english as their first language, so when they try to sell something on the eBay, they normally misspell the item. Ultimately their product do not sell on ebay coz it never came into search. Hence there are techniques involved on getting cash from the ebay misspelled items.

    If you wish where you can get the eBook just PM me and I will give you the web address, as it is not viable to spoil the thread with unnecessary links.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    I know a British guy out here in Serbia who sources military and similar memorabilia and ships it worldwide, I guess he pays the bills with it because it's a niche market but it's not exactly big business and he has plenty of complaints but not much choice. Ebay has gone down the pan, no two ways. Must suggest to him he set up his own site, but I guess like a lot of people he just finds it easier going the ebay route, and that's how ebay somehow continue to cling on.
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  • Profile picture of the author skyline-SEO
    I think that whoever using ebay as the main source of profit is definetely missing the whole point. I think eBay can be one of the best customer acquisition tools out there. For most businesses the most expensive part of their operation is acquiring a new customer. If you can integratwe eBay to generate these customers even if you don't make a profit on these initial sales, you can make a killing with back end products or complementing offers.

    Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author Ethan Ooi
    u dont really need to sell things on ebay...the profit margin really low...but u can use ebay to promote ur site
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikee17
    You can still make CRAZY money on eBay selling liquidated goods & refurbished stuff.

    Another great source is to look for manufacturers and distributors directly at
    ThomasNet.com

    I've sold over 1500 refurbished dropshipped dehumidifiers on eBay. My source wasn't on anyone's list. I had to explain the concept of dropshipping to him! LOL :-)

    The result so I had no competition and made a KILLING.

    Refurbished, scratched & dented, even broken items sell VERY well on eBay.
    You can try finding local companies that get customer returns that are missing a screw, scratched, or has some other minor problem that doesn't affect the functioning of the item. For example, my brother picked up a bunch of scratched electrical panels from a company that couldn't sell them to their professional electricians, but for the do-it-yourselfer home guy they were perfect!

    ...Mikee17

    Founder: AuctionTNT.com and PlatinumPowerSeller.com
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    • Profile picture of the author niffybranco
      You can still make a decent amount on ebay if you carry out proper research and choose the right niche, however the true power of ebay lies in using it to generate leads. If you can get your ebay buyers to subscribe to a mailing list , you have got a profitable list as it is a list of people who are comfortable buying online and have bought from you before so you have their trust. If you are selling on ebay and not diverting the traffic to your list you are seriously loosing out.
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      • Profile picture of the author Recession_Proof
        Yeah eBay has almost bought the farm. I hate to say this but, China has a strong grip on the eBay nutsack. And they are holding on for dear life. Not all the sellers are bad. It's just that they are selling absolute crap. I mean like the crappiest of crap.

        I needed to get a turbo for my Subaru. I found a cheap one for $156.00, supposedly new. A drop in the bucket from the $1,500.00 that I was trying to avoid.

        So, my gut kicked in and said don't do it. Check the manufacturers rep in some of the Subaru forums. LUCKILY, I did.

        They were gluing the housing halves together. Instead of heat forged solid pieces. Horror stories were posted about them.

        Turbos blowing up, engines wasted etc. I'm not saying they don't make quality goods....I'm just saying that they mostly sell crap!

        Sorry for the tangent, basically what I am saying is to build your own site in addition to selling on eBay. It's hard to live off it alone.
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        • Profile picture of the author niffybranco
          Originally Posted by Recession_Proof View Post

          Yeah eBay has almost bought the farm. I hate to say this but, China has a strong grip on the eBay nutsack. And they are holding on for dear life. Not all the sellers are bad. It's just that they are selling absolute crap. I mean like the crappiest of crap.

          I needed to get a turbo for my Subaru. I found a cheap one for $156.00, supposedly new. A drop in the bucket from the $1,500.00 that I was trying to avoid.

          So, my gut kicked in and said don't do it. Check the manufacturers rep in some of the Subaru forums. LUCKILY, I did.

          They were gluing the housing halves together. Instead of heat forged solid pieces. Horror stories were posted about them.

          Turbos blowing up, engines wasted etc. I'm not saying they don't make quality goods....I'm just saying that they mostly sell crap!

          Sorry for the tangent, basically what I am saying is to build your own site in addition to selling on eBay. It's hard to live off it alone.
          Living off ebay alone is suicidal, just like living of adsense alone or someone else's website. What happens if they for some crazy reason decide to ban your account ?

          The key to is to have at least 3 solid income streams with at least one of them being your own website. If 1 or even 2 should fail for any reason there is always money coming in while you build up another income stream.
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        • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
          Originally Posted by Recession_Proof View Post

          Yeah eBay has almost bought the farm. I hate to say this but, China has a strong grip on the eBay nutsack. And they are holding on for dear life. Not all the sellers are bad. It's just that they are selling absolute crap. I mean like the crappiest of crap.

          I needed to get a turbo for my Subaru. I found a cheap one for $156.00, supposedly new. A drop in the bucket from the $1,500.00 that I was trying to avoid.

          So, my gut kicked in and said don't do it. Check the manufacturers rep in some of the Subaru forums. LUCKILY, I did.

          They were gluing the housing halves together. Instead of heat forged solid pieces. Horror stories were posted about them.

          Turbos blowing up, engines wasted etc. I'm not saying they don't make quality goods....I'm just saying that they mostly sell crap!

          Sorry for the tangent, basically what I am saying is to build your own site in addition to selling on eBay. It's hard to live off it alone.
          Yep, and eBay chose this path. eBay doesn't care about the long term business of sellers, and absolutely do not care about about buyers either. I get calls from eBay ASKING me to lower prices because I'm the only one selling some items and have in return increased my prices, when a year ago, there were 6 other people competing for the lowest cost. What happened? The other guys couldn't stay on eBay because eBay gave them the boot, or they got a low DSR score from a couple uneducated buyers when the system was still new and they were phased out, or they decided "Hell, I could use Craigslist for Free, Facebook Groups for Free, or go rent a table at a Swap meet/Flea Market for $20 and make more money" - eBay has just created a market where there average guy can Not survive without some serious knowledge about eBay that you won't find at those crappy "sell the crap in your attic on eBay" classes or "eBay for Dummies" books. Can't gain experience either, because once you are banned... you're banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author baggieboyblue
    Hi,

    Quite surprised with the comments about ebay. I make a lot of money on ebay. I sell in about 5 or 6 different categories. I have a shop which reduces my listing fees and I am a top rated powerseller which reduces my final selling fees by 20%.
    Yes the fees are high but look what you get for that. There is no where on the internet where you will get the traffic you get on ebay or Amazon. That is a fact. if anyone wants to buy anything the first place they look is ebay or amazon. If you do a google search for items you can bet that ebay items will appear on the first page.
    I think a lot of warriors don,t like it because ebay stopped them selling digital downloads ....... and rightly so.
    If you are selling proper physical products and not ebooks or " how I made a £1000 a day for 3 months ?" information rubbish, then you can build a substantial business with ebay. Its a great way to build a customer base for an e commerce site which is exactly what I do. I have a website selling one source of my products and a lot of the sales generated on that site are from ebay. I intend to open two more websites in the next few months based on the sales from ebay.
    Ebay is also a great way to test the market for new products you want to sell. Sell them on ebay if they do well then invest the time and money into opening a website. If they don,t sell on e bay then there is a good chance they will not sell anyway.

    If you want to build a successful long term business then dealing in physical products is the only way forward. This is what the ordinary person on the street is after, not e books or information products. If these " get rich" information products are so good, why are people selling the ideas, surely you would keep that information to yourself !!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
    oBay started a number of years getting rid of the smaller sellers. I sold there for about 10 years (started 1997) before I acknowledged the writing on the wall there. The latest analysis I've read indicates that PayPal will be driving the company.

    If you are selling in a small enough niche where your item(s) will be among the few listed, you might be okay. I've found the actual selling price on niche type items there tends to be higher than selling elsewhere.

    That said, if you want to deal with their insane policies, make sure you do your research. I've seen too many items listed there that just don't sell. I used to use HammerTap, but currently use Terrapeak ... not for selling there but for looking for pricing for uncommon items (I hate the overused terms "rare", vintage, antique, etc.)

    If you are still inclined to sell relatively common items there, you have "best match" to deal with, i.e. making sure your items show up when someone searches.

    And then you have the buyer ratings (DSRs - Detailed Seller Ratings) to deal with.

    And if you use google to drive traffic, the latest results have been you get shown a page with other stuff competing with what you are selling.

    Marvin
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin01736
      ebay's another selling channel and thats all it is these days. we still sell a bit on ebay now, although it was my main selling channel until the web sites took off.

      But ebay can still drive a bit of proper useful buyer traffic to your web site, and they are mostly buyers.

      Do an ebay guide relevant to your product and main web site - one I did gets first page serps (<picture mounts>), and happens to push a competitor back onto page two, which is a nice bonus.

      Dont put all your eggs in one basket, nothing wrong with supplimenting your own site with ebay, plus amazon if your product works on them.

      Ebay can be a flakey place, buyers can be nutters, and the policies often change. the new DSRs are a load of tripe too.

      Nothing wrong with ebay if you go into it with your eyes open, and realistic expectations.
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