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Human Forum Poster

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Human Forum Poster

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I have a problem! I want to launch a new forum to promote one of my websites. I've done this in the past and failed to attract many users because the lack of content.

So, I started searching for forum poster software. I found Multi-Poster Black forum posting software and multi-poster ultimate. However, I like to stay away from these 'black hat' blaster strategies because they deliver rubbish 'non-human' results. Its like the auto spinners for article marketing which you can easily tell has a robot spinning the content.

I thought of a solution.


I'm thinking of launching 'Human Forum Poster'. It'll be for any new forum owner that wants a little extra help building some momentum for their forum.

I already have an outsource team. They would create new accounts, search related blogs and forums to get a feel for the issues and start posting unique discussions.

The benefit to the new forum owner is they get a helping hand generating unique user content for their forum to get started. Obviously, once they are up and running, they can rely on their new users.

I'd be very keen to learn feedback from other warriors.
  • Would this appeal to people in the 'real world'?
  • Is it the type of product that affiliates would consider selling?
  • What price do you think people would pay?
  • Is it ethical?
  • Would this attract beta testers who would get an 'at cost' price?
As always, comments from Warriors drive my product creation. In the past, I have launched new products and ditched others based on comments from warriors.

I really do value your opinions.

Great Stuff!
Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author EnlightenMind
    Hey Paul,

    How would this kind of service be any different than outsourcing to a freelance writer or someone to write your blogs and posts?

    If a forum solves a lot of problems pertaining to a specific topic/niche with the latest information, then it will automatically draw visitors. The key is to properly manage it and not let spammers take over.

    Personally I would not pay for such a service. I wouldn't consider selling it either because there are just too many forums out there. You can "siphon" traffic from other forums to yours if you believe your forum is unique in any way. However, I think warrior forum, acme people search forum and betternetworker forum are good ones to model.

    An effective way to start a forum maybe to give some kind of reward to good posters or content. The ACME people search forum had a Super Sponsor program at one time and a lot of good content was created during that period.

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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    How big is your potential customer pool? Then how many of those people will outsource themselves, and how many of the ones remaining will know about you.

    I am just worried that your potential customer pool will be too small.

    As far as affiliates wanting to sell it, I think affiliation on a service product is very difficult to sell as an affiliate, and on you as the vendor. If the work is not done no one is paid affiliate looks bad etc.

    Maybe I am being short sighted, but I have scanned the freelance sights for forum writing work and there are not a huge amount people requesting the service.
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    • Profile picture of the author pkmembers
      Originally Posted by EnlightenMind View Post

      How would this kind of service be any different than outsourcing to a freelance writer or someone to write your blogs and posts?

      If a forum solves a lot of problems pertaining to a specific topic/niche with the latest information, then it will automatically draw visitors. The key is to properly manage it and not let spammers take over.
      Milton - Thanks for your post; you make a really interesting observation. In short, you could outsource to a freelance writer yourself rather than use this product . My idea is that the average affiliate looks for custom solutions. That's why the service, Human Spinner, has been so successful. I totally agree with you regarding the spammers. Its important any human forum poster adds quality content. Ideally, this comes from subscribed users. Subscription to a human forum poster would ultimately end because enough users subscribe and contribute. I'm certain many forum users would make good use of your suggestion about rewards.

      Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver View Post

      How big is your potential customer pool? Then how many of those people will outsource themselves, and how many of the ones remaining will know about you.

      I am just worried that your potential customer pool will be too small.

      As far as affiliates wanting to sell it, I think affiliation on a service product is very difficult to sell as an affiliate, and on you as the vendor. If the work is not done no one is paid affiliate looks bad etc.

      Maybe I am being short sighted, but I have scanned the freelance sights for forum writing work and there are not a huge amount people requesting the service.
      Cathy - Thanks for the clear thinking here. The potential size of the market is a challenge to estimate. When you google the term Vbulletin, it brings up 308 million results. I think there are enough forum owners to go after, but whether they need a human forum poster is another question.

      As for affiliates selling a service, I take your point. Human Forum Poster may need packaging as a subscription membership site with x number of human posts per month.

      Great Stuff!
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Forum posting services already exist in the form of single posters and some companies i have found do offer a similar type service as you are suggesting, the question to use one or not really is one for each person to answer and each site would have have different needs and wants.

    i can see it as a good option where you can build a feeling of use or members very quickly that could be of benefit, and i can also see the other side with attracting people with good offers and content.

    so maybe a little of both but if you paid posters and only had crap content then it will be a short lived exercise anyway as the site / forum would die and people would be just wasting money.

    throw or pm some prices up of what you think you will offer out your service for / and keep in mind i suppose there are posters on fiver, but a quality service should be able to at least match or charge a little more.
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    • Profile picture of the author pkmembers
      Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

      throw or pm some prices up of what you think you will offer out your service for / and keep in mind i suppose there are posters on fiver, but a quality service should be able to at least match or charge a little more.
      Tryinhere - Helpful stuff! I'd offer just one price. $30 per month for 50 researched posts, 5 new threads from 5 different users. However, to make it a 'purple cow' (as Seth Godin would say), I may align my interests with the forum owner by charging a performance fee only. This will need some thinking through. For example. there is no fee if no new users are attracted to the forum. Maybe $1 per contributing member that joins after starting our service capped at a top rate.

      Alternatively, I could offer a free service if the forum owner agrees to branding each thread or posting. For example, 'posted by human-forum-poster'. As you can see, this is work in progress which is being driven by the comments here.
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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by pkmembers View Post

        Tryinhere$30 per month for 50 researched posts, 5 new threads from 5 different users.
        That sounds a little expensive... coming from someone who has used these services before.
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        Originally Posted by pkmembers View Post

        Tryinhere - Helpful stuff! I'd offer just one price. $30 per month for 50 researched posts, 5 new threads from 5 different users. However, to make it a 'purple cow' (as Seth Godin would say), .
        ? maybe alittle pricey as mentioned but if quality was there it would make the difference.

        I may align my interests with the forum owner by charging a performance fee only. This will need some thinking through. For example. there is no fee if no new users are attracted to the forum. Maybe $1 per contributing member that joins after starting our service capped at a top rate.
        that system i would not buy because there are all sorts of methods to attracting new members so unles they could be attributed to your promotional methods i may be paying for my own alternate promotions / twice over per say

        Alternatively, I could offer a free service if the forum owner agrees to branding each thread or posting. For example, 'posted by human-forum-poster'.
        not for me but others may buy it ?
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Forum marketing in its most effective form always gives value to the other members of the forum.

    The question is can you trust that your Human Forum Posters will actually improve your perceived value in the community? Or will they simply be doing "me too" posts to build your link count?

    If the latter, you would probably be better to rent signature space from other forum participants.
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    • Profile picture of the author AFI
      I used to know someone who offered this very same service and I was actually one of his forum posters. The idea didn't catch on and he abandoned it.
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      • Profile picture of the author pkmembers
        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        Forum marketing in its most effective form always gives value to the other members of the forum.

        The question is can you trust that your Human Forum Posters will actually improve your perceived value in the community? Or will they simply be doing "me too" posts to build your link count?

        If the latter, you would probably be better to rent signature space from other forum participants.
        tpw - Great insight! I love the idea of renting forum users signatures! It's the first i've heard of it! Imagine setting up a service that brings the buyer and user together to exchange money for signatures and agreed numbers of posts. I came up with the idea of human forum poster because of the lack of perceived value from the robot posters. Great Stuff! Paul

        Originally Posted by WillR View Post

        This isn't new and there are lost of places that already offer this service. I have used a service in the past called ForumBooster - The Best Paid Forum Posting Service & Content Writing and they have been doing this for years and years - their website says something like 400,000 forum posts so far. I used them on a couple of projects about 3 years ago and they were cheap and their work was very good. I needed them to start off a couple of my new forums and got them to do about 400 posts/threads to get the forum going. Was well worth the money.
        WillR - great find, thanks for contributing the link. This is genuinely the first time I've seen the website. Interesting that they have moved their website to content curent. In the order center, it makes no mention of forum posting - just Article writing. Maybe they found more money in this. Great Stuff! Paul

        Originally Posted by AFI View Post

        I used to know someone who offered this very same service and I was actually one of his forum posters. The idea didn't catch on and he abandoned it.
        AFI - I'm sorry to see the timing didn't work for you or the idea owner. Do you still have the persons contact details so I can call them? Perhaps you can PM me so I can talk to them about the failings of the idea. Great Stuff! Paul
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        • Profile picture of the author WillR
          Originally Posted by pkmembers View Post

          tpw I love the idea of renting forum users signatures! It's the first i've heard of it! Imagine setting up a service that brings the buyer and user together to exchange money for signatures and agreed numbers of posts.
          This would be hard to keep track of. If people change their signature it usually changes on all the posts they have previously done also. I also think it is against the terms of a lot of forums.

          Best of luck though with the forum posting idea. I would definitely do your homework first before you get too far involved. I would start small scale and only get bigger if the need arises. That way you won't outlay too much money in the beginning and you can keep it profitable as/if it grows. You could even search around and find some dormant forums, take some screenshots of the current stats (how many members, posts, threads) and then offer them a free package of forum posting. Then you could use those as case studies/examples to others.
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        • Profile picture of the author AFI
          Honestly I can't remember the guy's name. This was probably 7-8 years ago and it was just one of the many stupid things I've done online to make money. His problem was the "chemistry" between the fake posters wasnt the same as if it were really two people concerned with talking about each other. It felt forced and it was super hard as a human forum poster to come up with subjects on forums we knew nothing about.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    This isn't new and there are lost of places that already offer this service. I have used a service in the past called ForumBooster - The Best Paid Forum Posting Service & Content Writing and they have been doing this for years and years - their website says something like 400,000 forum posts so far. I used them on a couple of projects about 3 years ago and they were cheap and their work was very good. I needed them to start off a couple of my new forums and got them to do about 400 posts/threads to get the forum going. Was well worth the money.
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