Ya know...it could be me but is the Aweber price increase overblown?

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Hey Guys,

Wanted to know if anyone else feels this way...

I've noticed a lot of talk and emails about aweber changing their price and people switching, etc. And I was thinking about it and this was my thoughts.

Who cares?...

My reason for this is that if you're making a good living off your list because you have a good relationship with them and what not, then whatever price Aweber charges isn't really an issue because you'll have made TONS more of them.

Now, I'm not sure how easy/difficult it would be to switch but I tried to get a Get Response account one time and migrate over and I realized that I wasted about 10 total hours of time (between trying to migrate and also lack of focus causing me to destroy my productivity) on this little "project."

I have a feeling it's the same thing for others.

So moral of the story don't worry about Aweber's price because if you're doing the list building "thing" right, you'll be able to more than make up for any price increase. And...if you believe in "fire under the butt leads to success" theory of living, it might just make you more likely to work hard and build your business.

What do you guys think?

Brad

P.S.- Please don't attack me for a contrary view...if you wanna save money that's your prerogative but this is just my opinion...
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  • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
    I agree with you 100%, it's just part of the price of doing business.

    if you have a main street store you have to pay your energy bills which can go up at any time... the cost of an autoresponder is just one of those costs.


    Originally Posted by Brad Spencer View Post

    Hey Guys,

    Wanted to know if anyone else feels this way...

    I've noticed a lot of talk and emails about aweber changing their price and people switching, etc. And I was thinking about it and this was my thoughts.

    Who cares?...

    My reason for this is that if you're making a good living off your list because you have a good relationship with them and what not, then whatever price Aweber charges isn't really an issue because you'll have made TONS more of them.

    Now, I'm not sure how easy/difficult it would be to switch but I tried to get a Get Response account one time and migrate over and I realized that I wasted about 10 total hours of time (between trying to migrate and also lack of focus causing me to destroy my productivity) on this little "project."

    I have a feeling it's the same thing for others.

    So moral of the story don't worry about Aweber's price because if you're doing the list building "thing" right, you'll be able to more than make up for any price increase. And...if you believe in "fire under the butt leads to success" theory of living, it might just make you more likely to work hard and build your business.

    What do you guys think?

    Brad

    P.S.- Please don't attack me for a contrary view...if you wanna save money that's your prerogative but this is just my opinion...
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    I never thought that the new Aweber pricing was that big of a deal. If you have a good sized list, then you should be making good money with it. With that being said, I'm all about saving money and the ProFollow deal was a good way of doing that. If you missed it, it's no big deal though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Spencer
      Originally Posted by M Thompson View Post

      I agree with you 100%, it's just part of the price of doing business.

      if you have a main street store you have to pay your energy bills which can go up at any time... the cost of an autoresponder is just one of those costs.
      Hey,

      I own a deli here in Winter Garden, FL and believe me I understand that 10000000%. Bills going up and fixed costs aren't even on my mind. But the amount of drink inventory, mayo containers, chips, bread, and meat I have on hand can mean the difference between having cash or not.

      Focus on the variable stuff (growing the list, monetizing the list, etc) and Aweber's cost or any autoresponder's cost will not matter.

      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      I never thought that the new Aweber pricing was that big of a deal. If you have a good sized list, then you should be making good money with it. With that being said, I'm all about saving money and the ProFollow deal was a good way of doing that. If you missed it, it's no big deal though.
      I didn't hear about the profollow deal really to be honest until today. But "no big deal" is right...

      Cheers,

      Brad
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi Brad,

    The only people who complain about money situations are the ones who aren't making enough money.

    It's best to never complain, for it disempowers you. Simply find a way to generate more money, and your money problems disappear

    RB
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Spencer
      Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

      Hi Brad,

      The only people who complain about money situations are the ones who aren't making enough money.

      It's best to never complain, for it disempowers you. Simply find a way to generate more money, and your money problems disappear

      RB
      Amen, shout it from the roof tops!

      You just summed up my point.

      The time it would take to switch Autoresponders isn't worth it because in that time I could shoot a video, slap up a sales page, and then sell the **** out of it. One product launch on the super low end could pay for a year's worth of autoresponder at almost any price.

      Ryan...way to stay positive and keep it up bro...we need more of that here on this forum.

      Cheers,

      Brad

      PS- and this is for the newbies reading this...if you do it right...you can make a nice living off the <500 subscriber level to get 10x your A/R fee at 19 bucks. Trust me...it's not hard when you're being a good guy/gal to them.
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      • Profile picture of the author It Should Be Easy
        It will most likely affect the business in a positive way as well since most marketers don´t want bad subscribers on their list if they only cost you money
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    • Profile picture of the author J.M.Wilson
      Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

      Hi Brad,

      The only people who complain about money situations are the ones who aren't making enough money.

      It's best to never complain, for it disempowers you. Simply find a way to generate more money, and your money problems disappear

      RB
      Absolute complete and utter nonsense I'm afraid. Either you don't know any successful business people or you throw away money hand over fist.

      Every business must strive to run at it's most efficient and profitable. It doesn't matter if something goes up ten dollars a month, if it adds expense to your business and results in less money in your pockets then it's bad.

      If there isn't an alternative then you're stuck with it but if there is then you should switch and save your business money. You should ALWAYS be looking at ways to cut costs no matter how small.

      Try a course in Business Economics and you will see why your viewpoint is flawed from it's very foundations.
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  • Profile picture of the author leiden
    I never could understand why someone would use Aweber when there are free scripts available that do the same thing. It's like paying for a program that does exactly what Wordpress does. It doesn't make any sense to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
      Originally Posted by leiden View Post

      I never could understand why someone would use Aweber when there are free scripts available that do the same thing. It's like paying for a program that does exactly what Wordpress does. It doesn't make any sense to me.
      Lol... tell you what send out an email using a free script from your hosting and see how long before your site is blacklisted.
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    • Profile picture of the author Work2Live
      As a newbie I'm wondering why use aweber, why not use a free service?

      I know aweber makes people opt in through their email so they are confirmed subscriber, is this very important?

      And what free services are recommended leiden?
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      • Profile picture of the author J.M.Wilson
        Originally Posted by Work2Live View Post

        As a newbie I'm wondering why use aweber, why not use a free service?

        I know aweber makes people opt in through their email so they are confirmed subscriber, is this very important?

        And what free services are recommended leiden?
        Because, depsite what I said above, it's a very good autoresponder service compared to the free alternatives.
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      • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
        Originally Posted by Work2Live View Post

        As a newbie I'm wondering why use aweber, why not use a free service?

        I know aweber makes people opt in through their email so they are confirmed subscriber, is this very important?

        And what free services are recommended leiden?

        Please don't even consider a free self hosted service. If you have to use a trial account with someone like mailchimp. But use a professional service.

        A good list is the key to success using a free autoresponder is like getting a ferrarri and then using the cheapest oil and tires... it will end in tears!

        Professional autoresponder companies have lots of staff who work all day making sure your emails get delivered and you don't get blacklisted...it only takes a few people to click on the spam button and your screwed
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        • Profile picture of the author Work2Live
          Thanks Mark and J.M.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Aweber still in the game after some guys cracking them and sending spammissh emails to Aweber users lists?

    Wow! Now thats what I call business: %$# them and charge more.

    lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      Aweber still in the game after some guys cracking them and sending spammissh emails to Aweber users lists?

      Wow! Now thats what I call business: %$# them and charge more.

      lol
      One of the factors I took into consideration when I decided to switch from Aweber . . . Thanks to them, I get Viagra spam mails all the time now . . .
      (which means my subscribers are, and so is everyone else that was on an aweber list)

      Went to Imnica for more reasons than just money . . . (the WSO was great though)
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  • Profile picture of the author bikaigroup
    From time to time companies have to raise their prices due to rising cost, but, to do it solely for the sake of supply and demand, or the pressure of competition is ridiculous.
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  • Profile picture of the author theemperor
    I agree with the sentiment that any modest increase should be easy to stomach. having said that I moved to self-hosting, because I like the power and flexibility and knowing that the user interface isn't going to change all of a sudden.

    I also find it a lot quicker to set up a campaign in Infinite Responder. However I know I am sacrificing some of the advanced features like split testing and that I will need to find a way to achieve this but overall I'm glad I self host now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
    The other day, I contacted Aweber's customer support about the price increase and asked them if there was one.

    They told me that "Some of there private labels {Ex: profollow} are changing there pricing, but Aweber is not".

    Caleb

    From Aweber Live Chat Support {Re Confirmed}
    Jordan Premick: We are not changing our prices, our private labels are upgrading their services to our current pricing level.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      The other day, I contacted Aweber's customer support about the price increase and asked them if there was one.

      They told me that "Some of there private labels {Ex: profollow} are changing there pricing, but Aweber is not".

      Caleb
      Caleb, I think that was the source of the confusion. I'm currently using Profollow, and they sent out a blast to let everyone know that they'd be increasing their prices to current Aweber levels, and this was the source of all the confusion as Profollow is basically a white-label version of Aweber. People tend to confuse the two, and I think that when Profollow announced its price release, people thought that Aweber was going to increase as well.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
        Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

        Caleb, I think that was the source of the confusion. I'm currently using Profollow, and they sent out a blast to let everyone know that they'd be increasing their prices to current Aweber levels, and this was the source of all the confusion as Profollow is basically a white-label version of Aweber. People tend to confuse the two, and I think that when Profollow announced its price release people thought that Aweber was going to increase as well.

        Paul
        Hey,

        Yeah, I got a bunch of e-mails about that increase.

        Caleb
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

          Hey,

          Yeah, I got a bunch of e-mails about that increase.

          Caleb
          With this price increase, I definitely think that the older members of Profollow and other white-label versions of Aweber are going to be holding on tightly to their existing accounts, lol!
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Spencer
      Originally Posted by Caleb Spilchen View Post

      The other day, I contacted Aweber's customer support about the price increase and asked them if there was one.

      They told me that "Some of there private labels {Ex: profollow} are changing there pricing, but Aweber is not".

      Caleb

      From Aweber Live Chat Support {Re Confirmed}
      I'm done with this convo b/c of this...Thanks Caleb!

      Cheers,

      Brad
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      • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
        Originally Posted by Brad Spencer View Post

        I'm done with this convo b/c of this...Thanks Caleb!

        Cheers,

        Brad
        Your welcome. It just shows you cant always believe the gossip.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by Brad Spencer View Post

        I'm done with this convo b/c of this...Thanks Caleb!

        Cheers,

        Brad
        Brad, glad to hear you got to the bottom of this. Remember that while Aweber can always increase its prices, it's not the only game in town, and if they push prices too far up then the competition is probably going to try and undercut them aggressively. Icontact, Getresponse and the others aren't exactly chopped liver here, so Aweber definitely has to watch its back.
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        • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
          Just read this and it demonstrates why going with free autoresponder services isn't a good idea..

          Shutting Down FeedmailPro.com

          Imagine if you had 3 or 4 lists of 1000 people or so...
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          • Profile picture of the author paulie888
            Originally Posted by M Thompson View Post

            Just read this and it demonstrates why going with free autoresponder services isn't a good idea..

            Shutting Down FeedmailPro.com

            Imagine if you had 3 or 4 lists of 1000 people or so...
            With free autoresponder services you're always running a fairly large risk of losing your lists if anything happens, in addition to experiencing sub-par service that may not give you a high delivery rate to your subscribers' inboxes.

            It seems that FeedMail is moving existing users over to MailChimp, another free service that may or may not last for long. It's just too unpredictable having to deal with these free services when you're trying to build a real business, in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author KristofferIM
    Yeah, a bit too much hype about the price increase. I don't even know how much they will increase the price and I feel like I don't need to know either.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Aweber's been around forever and has a great reputation where it matters most: with their customers and with the large email providers that ultimately determine which emails get delivered and which end up in the spam folder.

    Feel free to save $20/month and go with free or bargain basement services. If you're in the IM niche, that just means less competition for me. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Rodman
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    Personally, I don't care too much about a price increase cause it's a valuable tool, reliable service, etc.

    The only thing that would be bad is if Aweber, knowing they have certain people over a barrel because of hte PITA factor to switch, decided to squeeze some more cash out.

    Either way, not really something I lose sleep over.
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    • Profile picture of the author Caleb Spilchen
      Originally Posted by KristofferIM View Post

      Yeah, a bit too much hype about the price increase. I don't even know how much they will increase the price and I feel like I don't need to know either.
      Originally Posted by Dave Rodman View Post

      Personally, I don't care too much about a price increase cause it's a valuable tool, reliable service, etc.

      The only thing that would be bad is if Aweber, knowing they have certain people over a barrel because of hte PITA factor to switch, decided to squeeze some more cash out.

      Either way, not really something I lose sleep over.
      Read my last post. There is no increase from AWEBER.

      Caleb
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    Yeah, I figured that out just now.
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  • Brad, it doesn't matter how much you are making by using a service, if you can obtain same level of service elsewhere which is cheaper you should make the move.

    Pretty simple really.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Spencer
      Originally Posted by Internet_Corporation View Post

      Brad, it doesn't matter how much you are making by using a service, if you can obtain same level of service elsewhere which is cheaper you should make the move.

      Pretty simple really.
      You can't...that's the point. Professional services like Aweber, Get Response, Icontact, etc are WAY better than any autoresponder script you can get out there.

      Nothing can combine their easy to use features, reliability, data, and the shear time they save by not having to manage things on servers and all that tech stuff....to ever make it worth it.

      And no one ever considers the cost of time and energy switching so saving 5-10 bucks a month on autoresponders isn't worth the massive amount of time of switching over to something else. Go use that time and make more money.

      Cheers,

      Brad
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      • Profile picture of the author J.M.Wilson
        Originally Posted by Brad Spencer View Post

        You can't...that's the point. Professional services like Aweber, Get Response, Icontact, etc are WAY better than any autoresponder script you can get out there.

        Nothing can combine their easy to use features, reliability, data, and the shear time they save by not having to manage things on servers and all that tech stuff....to ever make it worth it.

        And no one ever considers the cost of time and energy switching so saving 5-10 bucks a month on autoresponders isn't worth the massive amount of time of switching over to something else. Go use that time and make more money.

        Cheers,

        Brad
        I agree with that 100%.

        However, in your opening post you implied that you didn't care and nor should others about costs affecting their business IF they are making money from those costs.

        That's what the disagreememnt is based upon. The goal of all businesses should be to reduce costs to the bare minimum and as a result increase profits to a maximum.
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  • Profile picture of the author RealExpert
    I signed up with profollow before their prices went up so I locked in the $19.95 per month for up to 10,000 subscribers...sweat!!!! :-)
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