Anybody promote Amazon products that cost $10k+?

by Kory Pearman 58 replies
Hmmm I thought about it, because I would only have to pull in 1-2 sales a month to be happy.(At first)

But then, the cookie only last 24 hours, correct? With a price tag that high, I get the idea a lot of people might not buy within the first 24 hours, but rather weigh their options.. look around.. put a lot of thought into it (obviously)

Any thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Kory, I'll put a few really high-priced items in a site if they fit, for two reasons...

    One, it makes some of the other items look less expensive by comparison.

    Two, it's easier to draw the lightning strike if you have a lightning rod up when the storm goes by.

    I haven't really targeted 5-figure items, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author leclaims
    Yeah this is a tough one. I would say the chances of someone purchasing a $10k+ item online are slim. Factor in the 24 hour cookie and you have a pretty darn expensive impulse buy!!

    I can't hurt to have a link on your site just in case, someone does bite the bullet.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      High end amazon products are best promoted offline, direct sales. When you close a deal, use your affiliate link.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

        Now...would I be wasting my time asking for more info on that...I'm glad you said that because I've been toying with this idea...just trying to figure out a way I can factor my Affiliate Link into it?

        I've had similar ideas...just wasn't sure if anyone had tried the online fused with offline thing incorporating Affiliate links into the equation.:rolleyes:

        DM

        I would imagine the best way to do this is to create a redirect off of your own site, and redirect the visitor to amazon, with the affiliate link embedded in the redirect.

        So tell the staff, go to mydomain.com/product_name and have them insert the payment info.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

        Now...would I be wasting my time asking for more info on that...I'm glad you said that because I've been toying with this idea...just trying to figure out a way I can factor my Affiliate Link into it?

        I've had similar ideas...just wasn't sure if anyone had tried the offline fused with offline thing incorporating Affiliate links into the equation.:rolleyes:

        DM
        Hey DM

        Start small until you learn the process.

        Print out or make flyers of the Amazon products you want to promote. (Sometimes you may want to buy some samples if products require a demo)

        Have your affiliate links for each of these products saved in your smartphone on categorized webpages.

        Aproach small businesses, at first, where you can speak to the owner without going through any gatekeeper.

        When you make a sale, have the customer order it through the affiliate link on your smartphone.

        Alternatively, make appropriate niche sites, and direct the customer to make the purchase on their computer.

        Or, as mentioned above just have an Amazon redirect off your main site. (Good idea, Bill!)

        Keep in mind you only need one item with an affiliate link, because you will automatically get commission on anything else the customer orders at the same time.

        Every month, call or visit with some other related products using same methods as above.

        As you get better at it, start promoting more expensive products to larger accounts, or go for quantity.


        This really is no big secret.

        My sales reps use their smartphones as a convenience for ordering on the spot, as when the prospect either does not have a computer available immediately or does not want the rep using it.
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
            Originally Posted by jake244 View Post

            So is it true lightning doesen't strike twice in the same place LOL?.. Is that the only time you sold a high priced item on Amazon?
            It's by far the biggest sale I've had. Without telling too much, I've had some success with items that might make good corporate gifts during this time of year. Pick the right items and you can get sales of $50 to $100 items with multiples of the item.

            Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

            And so you created a sister site reviewing outdoor table and chair sets from the perspective of a corporate resort purchasing agent, right?

            I wish. The sale was dumb luck, and I freely admit it. At the time, I was drunk on Adsense and the only reason I had the picture there with an affiliate link is that it was the easiest way to get the pic without stealing it.

            Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good...

            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            Well, you asked!! But, most certainly these ideas aren't for everybody. My sales reps use their smartphones as a convenience for ordering on the spot, as when the prospect either does not have a computer available immediately or does not want the rep using it. It is not an easy business model, but success rarely comes easily.
            It sounds like the smartphone is the next step up from the days when the manufacturing company I worked for equipped their reps with laptops and modems. Borrow a phone line, dial into the company intranet, and orders/shipping were/was confirmed before the rep left the office. We later added portable printers so the rep could print out purchase orders and get them signed.

            myob, something's been tugging at the back of my consciousness for a few days now. Your input on this thread has whatever it is tugging harder. Thanks...
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by drunkenmonkey View Post

          If there was a way this strategy works without having to "Cold Call" or follow up leaflets then...I'd probably be flat out and running with it....but hmmm...it's ok if you have a sales team to go out and do it...

          ...but I don't think...after reading your thread, it is a business model for me at this time.

          DM

          Take a look at this wso (currently free):

          http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-friendly.html

          The two ideas could easily be melded together...


          Originally Posted by korypearman View Post

          You guys hijacked my thread.. and I think I like it...
          Happy to have been of assistance.
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        • Profile picture of the author kfount
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          Hey DM

          Start small until you learn the process.

          Print out or make flyers of the Amazon products you want to promote. (Sometimes you may want to buy some samples if products require a demo)

          Have your affiliate links for each of these products saved in your smartphone on categorized webpages.

          Aproach small businesses, at first, where you can speak to the owner without going through any gatekeeper.

          When you make a sale, have the customer order it through the affiliate link on your smartphone.

          Alternatively, make appropriate niche sites, and direct the customer to make the purchase on their computer.

          Or, as mentioned above just have an Amazon redirect off your main site. (Good idea, Bill!)

          Keep in mind you only need one item with an affiliate link, because you will automatically get commission on anything else the customer orders at the same time.

          Every month, call or visit with some other related products using same methods as above.

          As you get better at it, start promoting more expensive products to larger accounts, or go for quantity.


          This really is no big secret.
          I love this strategy.

          What you proposed creates INTEREST. This is the first step towards marketing ANY product, whether it's $1.00 or $10,000.

          However, I would still mix in less expensive items, as it takes a lot of thought to determine if a person has the means to be able to afford a product that pricy.

          Amazon once had a drive-thru coffee shop available through their affiliate program. I don't remember the name, but at that time it was worth $84,000.

          Anyway, there is no reason why something like that couldn't sell among a person that you think has the money and (more importantly) the NEED.

          With a product like that, I would make a pitch to restaurants to help increase their inventory.

          What you need to do is think about the nature of the person likely to buy the product...

          Don't give the $400 million man an advertisement for a $10,000 bracelet... chances are his wife or girlfriend already has one. But does his daughter, especially if she's getting married? Keep asking questions like that until you find that one and only marketing idea.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by kfount View Post

            However, I would still mix in less expensive items, as it takes a lot of thought to determine if a person has the means to be able to afford a product that pricy.
            Selling less expensive items offline is not worth the effort, IMO. Our targeted prospects (heavy industry, telecommunications providers, automotive, hotels, hospitals, etc) are prequalified to have the means to purchase products long before the sales process begins.
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  • Profile picture of the author ry278
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    The 24 hour cookie makes it difficult but if you target only "buy (name of product)" keywords they might buy there and then.

    Better finding an affliate program with at least a 1 week cookie so you don't miss out on the big commissions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Doug
    Woah, that's interesting but what products worth 10k are you promoting?
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      We target for example heavy industry, telecommunications providers, automotive, hotels, and hospitals to name a few. They will buy not just high end products, but also they will buy in quantity - not just onesies and twosies. There is a huge market offline.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        We target for example heavy industry, telecommunications providers, automotive, hotels, and hospitals to name a few. They will buy not just high end products, but also they will buy in quantity - not just onesies and twosies. There is a huge market offline.
        This is a huge tip. The biggest sale I ever made via Amazon was an outdoor table and chairs set. Someone, presumably a hotel or resort, bought 35 sets @ ~$499 per set.

        That was a lightning strike...
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          This is a huge tip. The biggest sale I ever made via Amazon was an outdoor table and chairs set. Someone, presumably a hotel or resort, bought 35 sets @ ~$499 per set.

          That was a lightning strike...
          If only you knew who it was, right? That's why I find customers for Amazon offline. If someone buys once, they are most likely to buy again ... and again. What I often do is use the "recommend" feature on Amazon, which is based on their previous purchases. Go back to your customers and pitch them on other products. Don't give them the order link (your affiliate link) until they are ready to order within 24hrs. You don't have to give them your affiliate link to all the products they buy, just one will do.
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        • Profile picture of the author jan roos
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          This is a huge tip. The biggest sale I ever made via Amazon was an outdoor table and chairs set. Someone, presumably a hotel or resort, bought 35 sets @ ~$499 per set.

          That was a lightning strike...
          That was a nice sale. Do you have a website about the table and chairs or was it just a random purchase?

          Cheers
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
            Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

            That was a nice sale. Do you have a website about the table and chairs or was it just a random purchase?

            Cheers
            At the time, I had a site about landscaping and outdoor living spaces. The table and chair set was part of an article on furnishing patios and lanais (like a screened porch).

            I saw the order, and I kept waiting for it to disappear like every order I ever had for multiple flat screen TVs...
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            • Profile picture of the author jan roos
              Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

              At the time, I had a site about landscaping and outdoor living spaces. The table and chair set was part of an article on furnishing patios and lanais (like a screened porch).

              I saw the order, and I kept waiting for it to disappear like every order I ever had for multiple flat screen TVs...
              That's cool. I wonder if there's a way to get more of those type of corporate sales on a regular basis without actually having to contact them offline like mentioned above.

              Cheers
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              • Profile picture of the author myob
                Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

                That's cool. I wonder if there's a way to get more of those type of corporate sales on a regular basis without actually having to contact them offline like mentioned above.

                Cheers
                I have tried it also by promoting Amazon and other affiliate products to my subscribers in a few dozen niche lists. That has been fairly successful for repeat sales for small businesses and individuals. But to get the really large corporate accounts who order high end products and also reorder in quantity, you have to use a combination of offline sales/marketing and online follow up. Our hybrid marketing system has been extremely successful by combining Amazon's excellent conversions and product recommendations. We specifically approach large coporations in heavy industry, telecommunications providers, automotive, hotels, hospitals, etc for example.
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                • Profile picture of the author jan roos
                  Originally Posted by myob View Post

                  I have tried it also by promoting Amazon products to my subscribers in a few dozen niche lists. That has been fairly successful for repeat sales for small businesses and individuals of Amazon products. But to get the really large corporate accounts who order and reorder in quantity, you have to use a combination of offline sales/marketing and online follow up. Our hybrid marketing system has been extremely successful by combining Amazon's excellent conversions and product recommendations. We specifically approach large coporations in heavy industry, telecommunications providers, automotive, hotels, hospitals, etc for example.
                  That's really interesting. I am sure you can make an absolute killing this way and it can be probably be outsourced as well once you have a good system in place.

                  Nice idea!

                  Jan
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                  • Profile picture of the author myob
                    Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

                    That's really interesting. I am sure you can make an absolute killing this way and it can be probably be outsourced as well once you have a good system in place.

                    Nice idea!

                    Jan
                    LOL! I've been working in sales offline long before going online! Seriously, online marketers are missing a very large hungry market by ignoring offline businesses. But you can still make a lot more money online from Amazon products by building a list, and then promoting Amazon specials to that list instead of just putting up a bunch of "hope and pray" websites.
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                • Profile picture of the author tpw
                  Originally Posted by myob View Post

                  I have tried it also by promoting Amazon and other affiliate products to my subscribers in a few dozen niche lists. That has been fairly successful for repeat sales for small businesses and individuals. But to get the really large corporate accounts who order high end products and also reorder in quantity, you have to use a combination of offline sales/marketing and online follow up. Our hybrid marketing system has been extremely successful by combining Amazon's excellent conversions and product recommendations. We specifically approach large coporations in heavy industry, telecommunications providers, automotive, hotels, hospitals, etc for example.

                  Do you have a wso or any other place I could learn a bit more about how you do what you do?

                  I am sure you realize that I could never compete with you directly, but I could cut my own little niche similar to yours...

                  I am definitely interested in learning a bit more about what you do...

                  If nothing else, let's hijack this thread and make it about you and your business model... LOL
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                  • Profile picture of the author myob
                    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

                    Do you have a wso or any other place I could learn a bit more about how you do what you do? ... If nothing else, let's hijack this thread and make it about you and your business model... LOL
                    Actually I think the OP's question infers how do you promote high end Amazon products, so this is not in any way "hijacking" this thread, LOL. Nor is it so complicated as to require a WSO, OMG!

                    While jan roos and others certainly seem to have been very successful promoting online, my experience has been selling much more using offline and online methods. Afterall, both of these models are sales and marketing techniques, and the basic principles of sales and marketing have not really changed at all. We are just using different tools.

                    Basically, I have a group of sales people who have printouts of Amazon products tailored to the particular industry/business they are selling to. It takes a lot of effort to make these presentations which is why I sell the high end products to make it worthwhile. When they make a sale, they use their smartphones with my affiliate link to place the order. This way we have all the customer info for followup and reorders. I pay my sales people a small hourly wage plus a percentage split of sales. This really is not rocket science, especially since Amazon also recommends related products.

                    Do you think I really could make a WSO for this? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
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                    • Profile picture of the author tpw
                      Originally Posted by myob View Post

                      Basically, I have a group of sales people who have printouts of Amazon products tailored to the particular industry/business they are selling to. It takes a lot of effort to make these presentations which is why I sell the high end products to make it worthwhile. When they make a sale, they use their smartphones with my affiliate link to place the order. This way we have all the customer info for followup and reorders. I pay my sales people a small hourly wage plus a percentage split of sales. This really is not rocket science, especially since Amazon also recommends related products.

                      Do you think I really could make a WSO for this? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

                      Maybe!!!!

                      I have been around the block several dozen times, and I have never seen anyone take the approach you are taking....

                      It has definitely got my brain into overdrive...
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        • Profile picture of the author jake244
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          This is a huge tip. The biggest sale I ever made via Amazon was an outdoor table and chairs set. Someone, presumably a hotel or resort, bought 35 sets @ ~$499 per set.

          That was a lightning strike...
          So is it true lightning doesen't strike twice in the same place LOL?.. Is that the only time you sold a high priced item on Amazon?
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        • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          This is a huge tip. The biggest sale I ever made via Amazon was an outdoor table and chairs set. Someone, presumably a hotel or resort, bought 35 sets @ ~$499 per set.

          That was a lightning strike...

          And so you created a sister site reviewing outdoor table and chair sets from the perspective of a corporate resort purchasing agent, right?

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          • Profile picture of the author tpw
            Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

            And so you created a sister site reviewing outdoor table and chair sets from the perspective of a corporate resort purchasing agent, right?


            He maybe should have...
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      • Profile picture of the author KenJ
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        We target for example heavy industry, telecommunications providers, automotive, hotels, and hospitals to name a few. They will buy not just high end products, but also they will buy in quantity - not just onesies and twosies. There is a huge market offline.
        Why have I never seen this idea - just brilliant.

        Kenj
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    I've seen this discussion pop up a couple of times over the years and I have to admit that the high priced items niche does intrigue me.

    I'd love to get my hands on some info on products and price points purchased online.

    By 10K+ I'm assuming you are talking about the jewelry category. I wonder how much of that stuff sells.

    I found this funny...

    Certified Diamond (Heart, Good cut, 8.00 carats, D color, IF clarity)
    $932,700.00
    Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping.
    If you're dropping a million for a diamond, I'm not sure you want that delivered UPS overnight even if shipping is free.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick B
    The only products I've had any luck selling at Amazon are those that are not generally available anywhere else. I think that's even more applicable to high end stuff. I know that if I saw a big screen TV at Amazon for thousands of dollars, the first thing I'd do is check other sites, especially those with actual store locations, for their prices and availability. If Best Buy or WalMart carried the same TV at anywhere near the same price there's no way I'd order it at Amazon.

    At Best Buy I can see one live, I can touch it, I can get it right away, I can return it easily if there's a problem.

    But that's just me and as others have said, one $200 commission makes up for a lot of $2 commissions.

    Now if you could find high priced items that also aren't generally available elsewhere, then you might do really well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rita012
      It's that 24 hour cookie that will get you. The person may come to your promotion, see the ad, and check it out on Amazon. Those higher priced items generally take a week or more before the person makes their decision. Once they do, they'll just go back to Amazon and purchase it. However, your cookie will be expired.
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    • Profile picture of the author jan roos
      I've sold many physical products between 10 and 20K from one of my review sites but it's not from Amazon. I recommend having at least one of these sites as it can make you a full time income on auto pilot and with very little traffic.

      Check out this screenshot where you will see that last month I made about 2K in commission from 76 unique visitors to my site. That site has been performing like that and better for about 5 months straight now.



      You can go to CJ.com or any of those networks and look for things like Private Jet charters that costs 10 - 30K per booking. These guys pay around 9% I think so you just review all the companies out there and add your aff links and bam, get on the search engines or use PPC and make sales.

      Cheers

      Cheers

      Jan
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      • Profile picture of the author gibsonfan57
        Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

        I've sold many physical products between 10 and 20K from one of my review sites but it's not from Amazon. I recommend having at least one of these sites as it can make you a full time income on auto pilot and with very little traffic.

        Check out this screenshot where you will see that last month I made about 2K in commission from 76 unique visitors to my site. That site has been performing like that and better for about 5 months straight now.



        You can go to CJ.com or any of those networks and look for things like Private Jet charters that costs 10 - 30K per booking. These guys pay around 9% I think so you just review all the companies out there and add your aff links and bam, get on the search engines or use PPC and make sales.

        Cheers

        Cheers

        Jan
        Damn thats cool
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  • Profile picture of the author tittbit
    hmmmmmmmmmm
    great if some one bought that!
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  • Profile picture of the author Darla
    Originally Posted by korypearman View Post

    Hmmm I thought about it, because I would only have to pull in 1-2 sales a month to be happy.(At first)

    But then, the cookie only last 24 hours, correct? With a price tag that high, I get the idea a lot of people might not buy within the first 24 hours, but rather weigh their options.. look around.. put a lot of thought into it (obviously)

    Any thoughts?

    I tend to focus on products that :
    1. Have at least 20 customer reviews
    2. Have at least 4 stars
    3. Are prices at $100 or higher

    Those $10K tickets items usually do not meet those 2 criteria for me, so I wont promote them. The ones with 4 stars and up and with 20 or more customer reviews tend to sell better...UNLESS you have a site or niche that specially fits those higher ticket items.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Not yet, but ask me again in a few months...

    I just purchased a domain to put up amazon products valued at a few hundred to a few thousand...

    I will have it live later this week...

    With some experience, I will be able to answer...

    Until then, I am running on faith... I can because I know that I have been successful in other pursuits and I have made money on Amazon previously...
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  • Profile picture of the author Palusko
    Never tried that, but wanted to than everyone who participated in this thread. Lot of good information!
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    Loads of good ideas & information.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kory Pearman
    You guys hijacked my thread.. and I think I like it...
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  • Profile picture of the author Dmaind
    I know couple of warriors are doing this. One of them is selling 4 to 5 demand rings per month. She is not selling anything on her website but she is collecting leads and helping clients to make a better buying decision.

    You can replicate this process.

    D Maind
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    a little bit outdatet I know, please call me a Ghoul......(shame), but I try to learn as much as possible about promote amazon products and high ticket items as so.

    About one thing I be little bit sceptic there, I can not imagine that when you promote high ticket industrial item to an entrepreneur/company, they will not buy this item on amazon,they buy it from their wholesaler/importer, so never a Hotel company will buy a large bulk of outdoor wood gardening sets, no they buy it from the wholesaler who has 50% from the price who amazon offers.

    When I need for my company an Kärcher industrial cleaner, I buy that directly from the Kärcher wholesaler and not by amazon.


    So as an affiliate,especial as an greenhorn noob, I can not imagine to promote such products as an affiliate.

    I think you promote them through your list not through your "product review page" direct ?
    when you do syndication, you need target traffic from industrial consumers from industrial ezines as example.


    But I think promote such high ticket industrial items, this will be not the step for beginners,this is for advanced marketers (?).

    Ohje I have dig up this older thread,please not stoned me...............


    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      a little bit outdatet I know, please call me a Ghoul......(shame), but I try to learn as much as possible about promote amazon products and high ticket items as so.

      About one thing I be little bit sceptic there, I can not imagine that when you promote high ticket industrial item to an entrepreneur/company, they will not buy this item on amazon,they buy it from their wholesaler/importer, so never a Hotel company will buy a large bulk of outdoor wood gardening sets, no they buy it from the wholesaler who has 50% from the price who amazon offers.

      When I need for my company an Kärcher industrial cleaner, I buy that directly from the Kärcher wholesaler and not by amazon.
      There are other factors that enter into the purchase decision. Have you actually done price comparisons between Amazon and several industrial suppliers? On many items, you'll find the prices at least competitive. Amazon rarely sells at list price; usually at a 30-40% discount. I doubt you'll find a lot of industrial distributors knocking 50% off of that.

      There are also things like selection, in-stock status and quick delivery.

      Since the example of selling a lot of outdoor furniture was mine, I'll remind you that I offered that as an example of the biggest sale, not a typical one.


      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      So as an affiliate,especial as an greenhorn noob, I can not imagine to promote such products as an affiliate.

      I think you promote them through your list not through your "product review page" direct ?
      when you do syndication, you need target traffic from industrial consumers from industrial ezines as example.
      Being a noob isn't the point. You already grasp the need to put your offers/information where the people who buy that kind of offer already are.


      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      But I think promote such high ticket industrial items, this will be not the step for beginners,this is for advanced marketers (?).

      Ohje I have dig up this older thread,please not stoned me...............


      best wishes
      marco005
      A beginning marketer who understands an industrial market very well will likely do better than a "grizzled marketing vet" who does not. At the least, the person who is very familiar with the market has a leg up, or a head start.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    How do you know what products are just sold on "amazon" do you just search through Google and see for yourself?
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    @JohnMcCabe; with your 35 sets of $499 outdoor tables.....
    How does your product review looks? Do you write long reviews with 800 words or more for 1 product?

    Or shorter reviews with 300-550 words?

    best wishes
    marco005
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      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      @JohnMcCabe; with your 35 sets of $499 outdoor tables.....
      How does your product review looks? Do you write long reviews with 800 words or more for 1 product?

      Or shorter reviews with 300-550 words?

      best wishes
      marco005
      Marco, that sale wasn't even from a "review". It was from an article written to generate Adsense clicks.

      I used the picture I did because one could look at the tips for choosing outdoor furniture and the image and see what I was writing about. It had my affiliate link because that was the easiest way to embed the image without either buying one, taking one myself or stealing one.

      The article itself was around 1,000 words, mostly so I could put multiple ad blocks in the text without looking like I was stuffing ads.

      Like I said above, that big sale was dumb luck. But I happily spent the referral fees anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
      Originally Posted by myob View Post

      Actually I think the OP's question infers how do you promote high end Amazon products, so this is not in any way "hijacking" this thread, LOL. Nor is it so complicated as to require a WSO, OMG!

      While jan roos and others certainly seem to have been very successful promoting online, my experience has been selling much more using offline and online methods. Afterall, both of these models are sales and marketing techniques, and the basic principles of sales and marketing have not really changed at all. We are just using different tools.

      Basically, I have a group of sales people who have printouts of Amazon products tailored to the particular industry/business they are selling to. It takes a lot of effort to make these presentations which is why I sell the high end products to make it worthwhile. When they make a sale, they use their smartphones with my affiliate link to place the order. This way we have all the customer info for followup and reorders. I pay my sales people a small hourly wage plus a percentage split of sales. This really is not rocket science, especially since Amazon also recommends related products.

      Do you think I really could make a WSO for this? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
      I certainly would be interested! I've been selling some things on Squidoo, but the higher end products were around $400 to $500, and I don't remember selling anything for more than 1K.

      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Take a look at this wso (currently free):

      http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-friendly.html

      The two ideas could easily be melded together...

      Happy to have been of assistance.
      Hey TPW, there's no link in that WSO. Where can I get it for free?

      Thanks so much!
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        Originally Posted by wordwizard View Post

        I certainly would be interested! I've been selling some things on Squidoo, but the higher end products were around $400 to $500, and I don't remember selling anything for more than 1K.
        Well, my real opinion of WSOs is :p ... and I've never had the time nor inclination for producing any of my own products. Besides, there are already tons of excellent books and other resources on affiliate marketing, sales, list-building, branding, etc.

        However, what I have often recommended for generating massive numbers of leads for virtually any niche is Turn Words Into Traffic, by Jim and Dallas Edwards. This marketing model using article syndication for driving traffic directly to a multi-channel funnel system (online/offline) has made more millionaires for affiliates than any other method I know.

        Specifically for promoting Amazon products online and to get around the limitations of their 24-hour cookie, it is essential to build lists of your buyers. People do buy Amazon products in the 5+ figure price range, but it's rarely (if ever) going to be done through affiliate product "reviews" or "presell" pages.
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        • Profile picture of the author hardworker2013
          I have never targeted high ticket items on Amazon before, but
          i guess you would have to target buyer keywords, where
          persons are already in the frame of mind to purchase the item.
          Also the demand for the item must be reasonably be there to worth spending
          time setting up websites, or blog, SEo etc for such a high price item.
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        • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          Well, my real opinion of WSOs is :p ... and I've never had the time nor inclination for producing any of my own products. Besides, there are already tons of excellent books and other resources on affiliate marketing, sales, list-building, branding, etc.

          However, what I have often recommended for generating massive numbers of leads for virtually any niche is Turn Words Into Traffic, by Jim and Dallas Edwards. This marketing model using article syndication for driving traffic directly to a multi-channel funnel system (online/offline) has made more millionaires for affiliates than any other method I know.

          Specifically for promoting Amazon products online and to get around the limitations of their 24-hour cookie, it is essential to build lists of your buyers. People do buy Amazon products in the 5+ figure price range, but it's rarely (if ever) going to be done through affiliate product "reviews" or "presell" pages.
          Thanks for the reference, myob. I just wanted to check about something...

          It looks like the Edwardses' book is a guide to article marketing, and it was first published in 2002, i.e., 12 years ago.

          And of course article marketing's role and effectiveness has changed dramatically in the last couple of years, so I'm not so sure about investing $39 for this guide...

          Do you know of people who have used it successfully in the last year or so?

          Alternatively, I suppose I could set up niche blogs on "certain" subjects and add so much content that I'll build up my audience (and write a few articles to send some traffic too, in addition to press releases and social media stuff).

          In the meantime, thanks for the inspiration.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by wordwizard View Post

            It looks like the Edwardses' book is a guide to article marketing, and it was first published in 2002, i.e., 12 years ago.

            And of course article marketing's role and effectiveness has changed dramatically in the last couple of years, so I'm not so sure about investing $39 for this guide...
            The method termed "article marketing" as detailed in the Edwards' timeless classic actually worked quite well far longer than just 12 years ago, and in context with Google's ongoing algorithm changes, it is now considered avant-garde for growing numbers of enlightened affiliate marketers.

            Originally Posted by wordwizard View Post

            Do you know of people who have used it successfully in the last year or so?
            Until recently, I've been selling Amazon and several other affiliate products the same way for over 16 years, and made a fortune. My marketing model actually is rather simple in concept: establish an "authoritative presence" using article syndication, build niche lists, then recommend relevant products to subscribers within these niche lists. This method closely follows "Turn Words Into Traffic".

            Originally Posted by wordwizard View Post

            Alternatively, I suppose I could set up niche blogs on "certain" subjects and add so much content that I'll build up my audience (and write a few articles to send some traffic too, in addition to press releases and social media stuff).
            I suppose you could continue to knock yourself out selling one-off low end products. There are actually many, many effective ways for promoting Amazon products. But IMNSHO, the most common methods discussed here on the WF (ie SEO and "review sites" ), actually are the least effective methods because you are forced to work with either lower competition key words or accept low conversions and ROI.

            Top Amazon affiliates (at least the ones I know) rarely use SEO, PPC or even "review sites" at all. To earn the big bucks (5-6 figures per month is really not uncommon), you need to have repeat buyers and engage your customers, often on a personal level. To get around Amazon's 24-hour cookie, I promote products to my subscribers on a daily basis.

            Most of the sales lead to incrementally higher end products, and as the sales cycle continues I add in other communication channels such as social media, webinars, telemarketing, direct mail, local seminars, and personal (face-to-face) sales.

            What I recommend is to go back to the basics of writing real articles, for real people, and submit them to real publications. And learn how to market, such as using an engaging funnel system to process traffic generated from your articles.

            The "article marketing" model is not just about writing articles, but includes active marketing practices. Writing articles for online/offline publications that are already targeting your audience is a classic and time-proven marketing method for driving massive highly convertible traffic.
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    It's just like gold ira rollover affiliate. I just made $3,000 with one lead. It's totally doable but it can take a lot of leads or you just have to be patient with a small amount of traffic. lol

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    The 24 hour cookies is what your up against, they might do more research then you don't get paid.
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    • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
      :confused:
      I remember there is a WSO it claim can " set the cookies to a full 3 months"

      I wonder possible??

      I check around...THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE! unless "some people keep a secret" yea..
      I don't blame these people as we know is all about business...if leak ..and many people know...the first batch of the users will have competitive ....




      sometime I feEL amazon should extend its cookies...but perhaps the commission rate will be even lower than now..
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    I have an amazon product that I have a review of it, it is about $3500, and I get 4 orders in last 3 months, so you can try to sell $10k items too, but it will be harder.

    The conversion rate of that review is like %0.2, so you must have lots of visitor in buying stage to get the commission in high end products.

    The good thing is when they buy that item they usually buy other things too.
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      Originally Posted by Devilfish168 View Post

      :confused:
      I remember there is a WSO it claim can " set the cookies to a full 3 months"

      I wonder possible??

      I check around...THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE! unless "some people keep a secret" yea..
      I don't blame these people as we know is all about business...if leak ..and many people know...the first batch of the users will have competitive ....


      As my good deed for the day, I'm going to save you some money on that WSO.

      The way to "set the cookie for 3 months" is to trick people into adding the item to a shopping cart. The item will remain in the cart for 90 days.

      Feel free to donate what you would have spent on that WSO to the hunger-related charity of your choice...

      Originally Posted by Devilfish168 View Post

      sometime I feEL amazon should extend its cookies...but perhaps the commission rate will be even lower than now..
      Amazon's commission rates on physical products, especially at the upper tiers of their plan, are quite reasonable. Add in the fact that they also pay you for add-on purchases, and I think they're playing fair.

      Too many marketers get "drunk" on the high commission rates for digital products, especially some of the over-priced, over-hyped nonsense on Clickbank.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Too many marketers get "drunk" on the high commission rates for digital products, especially some of the over-priced, over-hyped nonsense on Clickbank.
        I wouldn't dismiss Clickbank with such a broad whisk. There are actually quite a few gems to be found, especially in non-IM niches. Using nominally-priced products, Clickbank can be a powerful resource for building lists which can then be leveraged for promoting high-end affiliate products such as Amazon.

        By positioning Clickbank's legendary 60-day unconditional money-back guarantee prominently on all landing pages, presell sites, and promotional copy, it can remove major hurdles of initial sales resistance and begin almost immediately a foundation of reliability and trust in the relationship-building process.

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          Paul, I wasn't dismissing CB out of hand. I just hear the repetitive whining about Amazon's low commission rates, and the example I hear most often is "compare that to the 50-75% Clickbank pays."

          With over 12,000 products in that marketplace, there have to be worthwhile products. You do have to admit, though, that there is a lot of "over-hyped, over-priced nonsense" as well...
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