How I made over $7,000 (and still counting) in three weeks with a free Warrior Forum account!

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Hello again everyone,

I don't believe I have ever made a post here about my earnings, even though I have been a member of the Warrior Forum for over two years.

I definitely am not making this post to brag, because the money I made over the last three weeks using this forum was really just an experiment. I already make really good money as an internet marketer (my own products, services and affiliate earnings).

I wanted to make this post to show everyone how easy it really is if you take the time to do some work and put a plan together.

I've never released a WSO until recently, so I never had a reason to upgrade my Warrior Forum account. With that being said, I do recommend that people upgrade their forum account to take advantage of all of the "perks" that it has to offer. Also, the earnings I'm talking about in this thread are not as a result of the WSO that I just opened last night.

After you read this thread, many of you will probably ask why I didn't make this information into a WSO.

So, you are probably wondering three questions right now:
1. How did I do it?
2. What did I actually make money doing?
3. How can someone else use this strategy to make a lot of money in a short amount of time?


1 - How did I do it?
One of the primary keys to this plan was writing a very detailed thread on the forum. This thread is the source of the power feeding into your plan.

Even though the thread is the key to making the plan work, you cannot be successful unless you set other things in motion before you write and publish your thread.

First, I will tell you what I did and in part three of this thread, I will tell you what you can do to try it for yourself.

I wrote this thread about finding a new niche market for Amazon products/websites.

I knew that a lot of people would want to know how to do this and I also found there to be a lack of good information on this subject in a single location, especially on the forum.

The real key is to write a good thread that has useful information so people will want to read it, ask you questions and get inspired to try the same thing.


2 - What did I actually make money doing?

Obviously, there are rules on this forum. You can't just write a thread and put advertising, marketing, etc in it and expect to get away with it.

What you can do is put links in your signature. You don't want to point out these links in your thread or replies unless someone asks you a question about it.

I had a multi-part plan to monetize the thread that involved selling one of my own Amazon websites (a really good one actually) and offering some other related services.

That particular website sale was successful, but this is probably not something that most of you will be able to run out and accomplish. I do have a lot of experience with internet marketing and creating websites, so I was able to produce a very good website in a fairly short amount of time. The website was only six weeks old when I sold it and this accounts for almost half of what I made from this experiment in this three week time period.

I was offering a service to do niche keyword research for people and find them a .com domain name that they could register that was an exact search match for a phrase that received decent monthly traffic and was targeting a product niche available on Amazon.

That particular service is actually the very same thing that my thread was about. Even though I already told people how I do it, some people will still want you to do it for them because of your experience and knowledge. This service was a decent seller over the last three weeks and I've still had sales coming in from it. For about two weeks straight (just until a few days ago), I was getting multiple daily sales on the service.

My only mention of providing that service was in a link in my signature, but people did end up commenting within the thread about how great the service was (which resulted in even more sales).

I also offered other Amazon affiliate site related services like site creation, marketing and even one-on-one training. These services have been selling very well and continue to bring in leads. In addition to what I have already made, I have thousands of dollars worth of contracts and training program participants that will be bringing in even more money over the next 3-12 months.

Every single bit of the money that came from this experiment went directly to my paypal account, so none of it was from promoting services/products for others.


3 - How can someone else use this strategy to make a lot of money in a short amount of time?

As I was saying before, this is the reason why I wanted to post this thread. I know a lot of you will be interested in finding out how you can do the same thing that I did.

To get you started, don't try to do the exact same thing I did because it won't be as effective. I do have an advantage because I have been working online for a living for a long time, which gives me a lot of knowledge and experience that I can use sell products/services.

You need to come up with your own plan for a service, product or niche that you have expert knowledge in. Obviously, a complete newbie to internet marketing may have a problem being an expert in anything. Start small if you are completely new. Try to come up with a subject that you have some experience with so you can talk about and also offer services that relate to it.

Come up with a "niche thread" idea to center your plan around. You want to be able to write about a subject that you have a lot of knowledge about and then offer some services or products in your forum signature that relate to your thread topic/niche.

Put a lot of time and effort into your thread - the longer, the better (in most cases). Give your readers as much information as you can. If you are trying to sell a service that the thread will teach the reader how to do, you may want to save some of your best kept secrets for yourself. However, you do want to give them enough information to be able to accomplish the task on their own.

Not everybody has available money to spend on products and services. Even if you do not get a sale from someone with your thread, you are building your own name and increase your chances of making a sale from those people down the road.

It's also important to price your services and products correctly. If you can, try to get a few people to give you an opinion about what they think your service is worth or what they would be willing to pay. However, you do want to offer your services and products at an affordable price or else you may never get a sale. It's much better to get 50 sales on a $30 service than it is to get 2 sales on a $100 service.

You also want to make sure that any work you will have to do will be worth your time. Don't sell a service for $5 just because a ton of people will buy it at that price even though it takes you two hours to do the work. Every situation will be different when it comes to pricing, so you will have to use your best judgment when it comes to this subject.

You can try to build your own website and then sell it, but I wouldn't recommend this unless you are very confident in your skills.

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT try to sell a crappy website to someone or your entire plan could tank. If you want to make this a part of your plan, put a lot of time and effort into making a good website with unique content. Market the website to get it's search engine rankings as high as possible.

If you can show a top ten or even a #1 Google ranking for your primary keyword phrase and possibly even some sales figures, it will be a lot easier to succeed. Do not try to rush this process before your site is ready. I know many people are in a situation where they need immediate money, but this is not something that you are going to succeed at overnight.

Ultimately, the key here is to come up with a product, website or service that you can sell that is extremely relational to the subject matter of your thread. Draw them in with your great content and they will do the rest for you. This one of the biggest "secrets" to being successful on the internet.

It seems like everyday, I see a new plugin, service or piece of software that is designed to create pages, articles or even entire websites with the click of a button. If you like to work this way, this plan is not for you. You need to be able to come up with some original, useful content to be successful. I not only apply this philosophy to thread writing but also to website creation in general. I know it is appealing to think that you can make a lot of money without doing any work (even the work to get the easy money started), but it just doesn't work that way in the real world. Take it from someone who has been making a living online for over 15 years - unique content sells.

I wanted emphasize that point because I know people will read my thread and run out to copy information from a website they found on Google and then plop it into a thread think they will make money. This isn't going to work, so don't try it. Take a few days or even a few weeks to put together a plan and a thread that will actually succeed.

Make sure you subscribe to your own thread so you can return to it often to answer questions that people ask you. Timely, friendly and helpful responses will help you convert your readers into buyers. I looked back over my previous thread and at least 50% of the money I made came from someone who posted on the thread that I replied to.

Provide people with useful information in a professional manner and everything else should fall into place. I see so many people that put a ton of work into their services and products, but some of these same people will not take the time to try to help others because they think it will cause them to "lose business".

Almost everybody has something to sell these days, so you have to set yourself apart from everyone else if you want to be noticed. I hope some of you will be able to use this thread as an inspiration to start working hard to put a plan into action that will be successful for you. I know that if you consider some of the things that I have said, that you will at least have a good start.

To Your Success!
Ryan
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  • Profile picture of the author myob
    So all that was just a trick to get us to click on your sig? :confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author Toon-c
      Probably !

      Originally Posted by myob View Post

      So all that was just a trick to get us to click on your sig? :confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hlatky
      Originally Posted by myob View Post

      So all that was just a trick to get us to click on your sig? :confused:
      It wasn't a trick. You weren't forced to click on it.

      He gave away excellent information for free and I often see that particular post referred to.

      I find it better to learn/buy from someone who knows what he or she is talking about rather than someone that is claiming to know.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

        ... You weren't forced to click on it. ...
        I couldn't resist! I was just joking LOL!. That really was a great post and full of extremely helpful info.
        Thanks Ryan!

        Anyone need some leads?
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    • Profile picture of the author phpnetpro
      Originally Posted by myob View Post

      So all that was just a trick to get us to click on your sig? :confused:

      LOL, no. I think you missed the point.

      You don't create a huge, detailed thread to get people to click on your signature. I'm saying that if you create your threads with information that people will actually be able to use then you will be much more successful with making sales.

      If you spend a lot of time talking about a subject and become known for that subject, you can promote relational services and products in your signature that will actually help people.

      Obviously, you don't want to come up with a bad product or service just to sell it to as many people as possible.

      The point is to give people the information that they need to do it without buying your services and products, but not everybody wants to do it on their own so you will end up some sales if you promote the right things.

      Think about business and marketing offline for a moment.

      What is a television station? Why would they spend millions of dollars to show you good, free programming?

      If you think about online marketing in that same manner, you can begin to tap into a market that is very low on competition. I wanted to write this thread to tell people about this because 99% of internet advertising that I see is very forceful advertising. Sure, it may work some of the time, but it works a lot more often when you catch flies with honey .



      Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

      It wasn't a trick. You weren't forced to click on it.

      He gave away excellent information for free and I often see that particular post referred to.

      I find it better to learn/buy from someone who knows what he or she is talking about rather than someone that is claiming to know.

      Thanks Mike

      You hit my point exactly!

      I know there are a lot of people with good information in the heads, but I just don't see them apply it in the right manner to be successful.
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    • Profile picture of the author Oxbloom
      Originally Posted by myob View Post

      So all that was just a trick to get us to click on your sig? :confused:
      Everything's a trick.

      The words I write here are a trick...to get people to read them and appreciate them, or maybe agree with me.

      The articles I submit to EZA are a trick...to get people to be interested enough to click through my resource box and find out more about what I have to say.

      The sales letters I write are a trick...to get people emotionally riled up so that they'll exchange dollars for products.

      Everything you do as a marketer or communicator, you do with the intention of getting somebody to do something. It's either a "trick," or "adding value," or "building relationships," depending on how you look at the world.
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      • Profile picture of the author phpnetpro
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        I couldn't resist! I was just joking LOL!. That really was a great post and full of extremely helpful info.
        Thanks Ryan!

        Anyone need some leads?

        LOL, you're quite welcome. I will do my best to continue making excellent trickery posts in the future.

        I don't mind the opposition. Perhaps I was just tricking everyone into getting your emotions stirred up over an issue that every single internet marketer is ultimately guilty of, yet people can't resist to say something about it.




        Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

        Good thing it's not an affiliate link though. If that were allowed, people would write posts just to get you to click on the link in their sig.

        Oh, wait....

        LOL, I like that. Affiliate links did get a bad rep because anyone can run out and spam affiliate links. Not everyone can create their own product to spam, so they still catch a break.

        Speaking of spam. Ever find it funny that it's supposed to be illegal now to send someone unrequested email advertising, but the government will still let companies pay them to spam you at your own home? Every time I open my mailbox at home and get an advertisement that was sent with bulk postage that I never requested, I think about this amusing fact. If only the government would let us pay to spam email.... LOL. Maybe next year.


        Originally Posted by Oxbloom View Post

        Everything's a trick.

        The words I write here are a trick...to get people to read them and appreciate them, or maybe agree with me.

        The articles I submit to EZA are a trick...to get people to be interested enough to click through my resource box and find out more about what I have to say.

        The sales letters I write are a trick...to get people emotionally riled up so that they'll exchange dollars for products.

        Everything you do as a marketer or communicator, you do with the intention of getting somebody to do something. It's either a "trick," or "adding value," or "building relationships," depending on how you look at the world.

        This is indeed correct Oxbloom and a very good explanation .

        Some people will openly accept/admit that fact while other people will try to call it by a different name. I'm not one to hide it. The people that do know me in the internet marketing world know that I'm not your typical internet marketer. I don't run around promoting every new product that is released. In fact, I hardly ever promote any of them. I promote relevant products to relevant people, but I don't get too wrapped up in hype and don't like to dish it out either.

        The one thing that I can't figure out is why people still believe that you can buy software, click a button and make thousands of dollars overnight, LOL.
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      • Profile picture of the author Hamza
        Originally Posted by Oxbloom View Post

        Everything's a trick.

        The words I write here are a trick...to get people to read them and appreciate them, or maybe agree with me.

        The articles I submit to EZA are a trick...to get people to be interested enough to click through my resource box and find out more about what I have to say.

        The sales letters I write are a trick...to get people emotionally riled up so that they'll exchange dollars for products.

        Everything you do as a marketer or communicator, you do with the intention of getting somebody to do something. It's either a "trick," or "adding value," or "building relationships," depending on how you look at the world.
        aah bless em words of wisdom hahaha
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by myob View Post

      So all that was just a trick to get us to click on your sig? :confused:

      That is why article marketing works. If you give great information, you can influence a reader to click your link in your signature, which may in turn lead to a sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author theemperor
    Thanks from me - not because i'm going to do the same thing, but it is an interesting read and I've seen this done alot - nice to see someone own up to it :-) It's not a bad thing, it's the equivalent of what is done on EZA everyday - free expert informatino with an option to buy a product once the authority has been established.
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  • Profile picture of the author shuvo
    You have used the WF well.Thanks for sharing your ideas and I will try myself what you have said here.
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  • Profile picture of the author profitsforall
    I've seen a few people "give away" fantastic information in posts in this fashion before.

    I've even bought from at least one of them - and i didn't regret doing so.

    I don't view it as trickery - I just see it as the forum equivalent of giving people a taste of something sweet, in the hope that they buy the whole cake

    My one concern is that now you've outed yourself as having done this there will be a raft of poor quality attempts to replicate the same sort of thing, and of course backlashes against that.

    Then again - it might spur on a greater quantity of high quality posts teaching the sort of thing that people normally put in to WSO's

    I guess time will tell.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
    Originally Posted by phpnetpro View Post

    Obviously, there are rules on this forum. You can't just write a thread and put advertising, marketing, etc in it and expect to get away with it.
    Yet you did just that in the other thread you're linking to. After the thread had gone on a while, you announced an imminent WSO, and then you posted a direct link to the WSO inside one of your posts. Which is against the rules.

    I had a multi-part plan to monetize the thread that involved selling one of my own Amazon websites (a really good one actually) and offering some other related services.
    You're encouraging people to start threads in the discussion forums here with the sole purpose of monetizing them in some way, apparently as pre-sells for their WSOs.

    This is terrible advice, as such threads are normally deleted as soon as they're spotted. A lot of copycats are going to be wasting their time as a result of this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Great post, Ryan. This is the ethical and proper way to monetize a thread, where every party involved derives solid value from the transaction. I like how you stress that everything you offer has to deliver true value, because the key here is to develop a long-term relationship with your target market in this forum, and providing substandard products and services is one of the fastest and surest ways of killing that relationship.
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    • Profile picture of the author phpnetpro
      Originally Posted by profitsforall View Post

      I've seen a few people "give away" fantastic information in posts in this fashion before.

      I've even bought from at least one of them - and i didn't regret doing so.

      I don't view it as trickery - I just see it as the forum equivalent of giving people a taste of something sweet, in the hope that they buy the whole cake

      My one concern is that now you've outed yourself as having done this there will be a raft of poor quality attempts to replicate the same sort of thing, and of course backlashes against that.

      Then again - it might spur on a greater quantity of high quality posts teaching the sort of thing that people normally put in to WSO's

      I guess time will tell.

      My hope is for the latter, but I don't underestimate what some people will do.


      Originally Posted by Ken Strong View Post

      Yet you did just that in the other thread you're linking to. After the thread had gone on a while, you announced an imminent WSO, and then you posted a direct link to the WSO inside one of your posts. Which is against the rules.



      You're encouraging people to start threads in the discussion forums here with the sole purpose of monetizing them in some way, apparently as pre-sells for their WSOs.

      This is terrible advice, as such threads are normally deleted as soon as they're spotted. A lot of copycats are going to be wasting their time as a result of this thread.
      My sincere apologies if posting about your WSO is against the rules. I was under the impression that it's allowed but a post shouldn't be made entirely for that purpose.

      I had zero intention of having a WSO when I wrote the niche thread. I didn't even start making the product for the WSO until a week into the thread, which was at the request of numerous people.

      BTW, isn't insulting others against the rules as well, LOL.

      Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.



      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      Great post, Ryan. This is the ethical and proper way to monetize a thread, where every party involved derives solid value from the transaction. I like how you stress that everything you offer has to deliver true value, because the key here is to develop a long-term relationship with your target market in this forum, and providing substandard products and services is one of the fastest and surest ways of killing that relationship.

      Thank you very much.

      I don't get to decide what is popular and what isn't. All I can do is make my best attempt to give people what they are looking for. Ultimately, that's what any business is trying to do.

      I know it touches a sensitive nerve for some people, but this is something that everybody needs to understand. Imagine an internet where every single person trying to make money online actually delivered great, helpful content and quality products/services. It's actually pretty hard to imagine.

      I do find it somewhat funny that some people don't like this thread and the things I have said here. Obviously, their focus was on a single part of my thread and not the grand scheme .. unless they would prefer worthless posts lacking in professional experience (which will still have ads in their signature).
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      • Profile picture of the author theultimate1
        Originally Posted by phpnetpro View Post

        BTW, isn't insulting others against the rules as well, LOL.
        probably it isn't "illegal" on the board yet, but it should be made so... lots of head weight on some people around here.

        Great thread by the way, thanks Ryan
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        • Profile picture of the author KevinTorrence
          You know, that really is a great technique to use.

          I've seen it used on a LOT of forums over the years before I even understood what the poster was doing. Sometimes it was just intended to gain respect ... and many times it's wasn't straight up money making ... but a well placed "I can make blahblah custom parts for you" or "Contact me and I can help you out personally" after a big, helpful post on a niche forum can pan out quite well financially.

          I'm thinking of one particular dude right now on a custom car forum that uses this method to keep steady work flowing into his hot rod shop. Another one consistenly puts up big, "photo-heavy" car show picture posts (& video clips) and sells quite a few high-res carshow picture cds & dvd videos with his signature. People eat that stuff up. It's dead simple & super effective.

          Jason Fladlien just wrote about this on his blog as a matter of fact. It's worth hunting for and reading.
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  • Profile picture of the author tonnele
    You are a pretty shrewd marketer. The bottom line is what you are doing is financially effective for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Coby
    I read both threads and was very impressed with the information given away. I have a few amazon sites and found a lot of your information very helpful. I even tried to find the research offer you referred to but couldn't . . .

    Thanks for the valuable posts!
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    I appreciate the OP's honesty. After all, isn't this what all successful/smart warriors do in some way or the other. Do you think some of the better known warriors would go out of their way to start a thread that probably took them quite some time to write if there wasn't something in it for them?

    He is just being straightforward about it. More power to ya.
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  • Profile picture of the author TelZilla
    Well written.

    And a smart strategy for those who are looking for a way to create a steady stream of income in any niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    Thank you for your lessons! We can apply the same techniques in many different ways.
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorkay
    Give...

    before you receive...

    Is not bad marketing, in my books,

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  • Profile picture of the author mkpoway
    That was an excellent thread filled with very valuable information. Your market is basically people who don't want to spend the time to apply all of it on their own. For beginners with money to spend, the knowledge you provide is worth the biweekly payments.

    Question for you phpnetpro: Since you were selling a service, did that mean you had to spend additional time training everyone who bought the service? i.e. were you trading hours for dollars?

    thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    This is what those long threads are for? Geez yes it works! I often do click on the links if the post/article catches my interest.


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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart S
    Originally Posted by phpnetpro View Post

    It's much better to get 50 sales on a $30 service than it is to get 2 sales on a $100 service.

    To Your Success!
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    Really?

    I've always heard people talk about it the other way around, I guess it varies depending on each product/service/niche though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hexor
    Wow. A very clever idea. Hope that your cleverness will continue. You are lucky because in only 3 weeks, you gain 7000$ and it is a big amount, me, i gain 20$ only for the past 1 month because i am still newbie and they dont believe in my ability so they hire others. A very helpful tip is much appreciated. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve McBride
    This is exactly what I'm working on right now. Thanks for ruining my secret! Haha.

    Great post. Now all I need to do is an A/B test to find out if a profile with a pretty girl's name and photo will get a signature link more clicks.
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  • Profile picture of the author unikk
    Nice one this way its good to use it in other famous forums
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpfulHannah
    Forum marketing at it's best...

    This is how article and blog marketing work as well.

    Provide great information... insert link to learn more or for the service.

    Easy and effective.

    Thank you for sharing your success.
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