I can't take it anymore, you gotta know the truth!

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For the last couple of months, my life has been going really bad. I don't want to bore you guys, but after getting fired from my job that I had for 12 years and soon after my wife leaving me, it sucks.

I pretty much got no more money and can't really pay the bills anymore. They say the night is darkest just before the dawn, I don't know how much darker it can get. I went into online marketing because I noticed it doesn't take a lot of money to make a lot of money. I went into affiliate marketing after reading it's best for beginners. Frankly, I was very excited since I've always been fascinated with the vast internet market. Few weeks later, I still didn't make any sales, no profit what so ever so I'm wondering where I failed? I converted to wordpress and didn't concentrate a lot on keyword research since I don't know any good software's to use.

These are my last tries, if I still don't make a sale, then I guess I'll have to shut it down. I'm asking for help on what I should do. I will post my website and I would appreciate if you guys helped me out a bit by telling me some stuff I can modify to make it better. Google Adwords refused my website saying it's a bridge page, so I don't know exactly how I can sell someone's product without linking my traffic to the original site.

Anyways, here is the site dubturboprobeats(.)com

Thank you all for the help and god bless you.
#anymore #gotta #truth
  • Profile picture of the author tamalanwar
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  • Profile picture of the author J.M.Wilson
    Hey

    There's no better time to get started than when your back's against the wall. Sometimes it takes sliding to the abyss to kickstart something that will change your life.

    I know you are feeling like nothing will ever work for you. I've been there and it's a horrible situation. You won't like what I'm about to say but here's the truth as I see it...

    Concentrate on your life for now. Try and piece it back together slowly bit by bit. Try your hardest to find a job you like and another partner.. heck if you WANT your wife back then move heaven and earth to get that.

    Three things, from experience, are responsible for happiness.

    1. A partner you love and who loves you.
    2. A place to call home.
    3. A job/income you like and live comfortably from.

    I advise you to work and piece together those three things.

    Once you are on track, look back into this Internet Marketing playground. I promise it will still be here. However, it's much easier to see the trees from wood when your mind is in the right place and you don't have such heavy burden to carry.

    Best of luck!

    J.M
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    • Profile picture of the author La Fiaba
      Hey, sorry I can't help you with IM, I'm not much of one myself! I have been trying to promote my website for a few months now and well, I'm getting about 5-10 hits a day and not one sale

      Then I found out a very unscruplous person was going behind my back and emailing all the agencies out there to 'warn them off me' (just out of jealousy, I haven't done anything except say no to buying her business) and in doing so has made my life soooo much harder than is has to be right now! So huge thanks and a merry christmas to her.

      Now it's Christmas Eve, I have no money to call my family (we're in different countries), there will be no Christmas feast or celebrations here, every single penny has been ploughed into this business and I'll be beggered if I'm going to give up on it! So in short, I understand what you are going through.

      I have looked at your site and it does look very good and easy to navigate. What I would ask is what are you doing to promote to your market? I pick up work occasionally on sites such as odesk an recently I was sending tweets to people, have you tried this? Basically just find people that are tweeting about making music, or rapping or whatever and send them a tweet saying 'hey have you seen this product? It's amazing because....and heres the link' or posting on forums related to music etc? Also do you have a way people can subscribe to your offers?

      Times are tough for lots of people right now, don't give up, if it's not working try something else. My step mother's business just got shut down by the UK government, she set up a new one 2 days later!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hlatky
    The first thing that I noticed was your images and "link" wasn't clickable.

    I would start off with making them clickable
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Originally Posted by max2daz View Post

    I went into online marketing because I noticed it doesn't take a lot of money to make a lot of money.
    You "noticed" it from who, based on what? Seems like a vague assumption to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Originally Posted by max2daz View Post

    Few weeks later, I still didn't make any sales, no profit what so ever so I'm wondering where I failed? I converted to wordpress and didn't concentrate a lot on keyword research since I don't know any good software's to use.
    Without even looking at your site, I'm going to hazard a guess that not waiting long enough and not doing keyword research are probably the two reasons why it's not making you money.

    Without proper keyword research, getting traffic is like trying to win the lottery. No traffic = no money.

    Contrary to what you may have been led to believe in the many flashy headlines for sales letters that you have read, making money online takes time so unless you are driving traffic with PPC, you need to be prepared to put in the time and the work necessary for it to pan out.

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  • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
    Here are some steps:

    1) Review your own areas of expertise and what products or services you can offer accordingly. Example: what skills did you use for the past 12 years on your old job?

    2) Check out competition for #1 above on the web and see which sites rank high, what they look like, how and what they are selling, their linking structure, etc.

    3) Dig in to compete.

    Focus come here for help as needed, and grow a business.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      While the site is attractive enough, it screams "I'm selling you a product", and whatever visitors you do get are going to be skeptical of your 'reviews'.

      Google called it a bridge page because that's what it is. It's sole function is to funnel people to the product sales letter.

      What are you doing to promote the site, besides getting turned down by Adwords? And why are you looking at paid advertising if you've reached the point you can't pay your bills? Something just doesn't add up here...

      On one hand, affiliate marketing is good for beginners because you don't have the added pressure of fulfillment and support. On the other hand, affiliate marketing can be a tough game, in part because so many people turn to it.

      One of the leaps you have to make is that, as an affiliate, your job isn't really to sell the product. Your job is to pre-sell the product. In other words, your job is to put the visitor in a positive frame of mind about the product and send him to the vendor's sales page.

      A full-press sell won't likely do that, even if the page says 'review' on it.

      Ken Evoy put out one of the best manuals for pre-selling as an affiliate. It's called "Make Your Site Pre-Sell", and it's a free download. It's also a terrific example of pre-selling in its own right, as its real purpose is to promote the SiteSell web builder and hosting package.
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  • Profile picture of the author scrofford
    Originally Posted by max2daz View Post

    For the last couple of months, my life has been going really bad. I don't want to bore you guys, but after getting fired from my job that I had for 12 years and soon after my wife leaving me, it sucks.

    I pretty much got no more money and can't really pay the bills anymore. They say the night is darkest just before the dawn, I don't know how much darker it can get. I went into online marketing because I noticed it doesn't take a lot of money to make a lot of money. I went into affiliate marketing after reading it's best for beginners. Frankly, I was very excited since I've always been fascinated with the vast internet market. Few weeks later, I still didn't make any sales, no profit what so ever so I'm wondering where I failed? I converted to wordpress and didn't concentrate a lot on keyword research since I don't know any good software's to use.

    These are my last tries, if I still don't make a sale, then I guess I'll have to shut it down. I'm asking for help on what I should do. I will post my website and I would appreciate if you guys helped me out a bit by telling me some stuff I can modify to make it better. Google Adwords refused my website saying it's a bridge page, so I don't know exactly how I can sell someone's product without linking my traffic to the original site.

    Anyways, here is the site dubturboprobeats(.)com

    Thank you all for the help and god bless you.
    It sounds like you have been trying IM for just a few months? Is that what I am understanding? If that is the case, then you've got your mindset all wrong. First of all, (and you are finding this out) instant money doesn't usually come with internet marketing.

    Thing is, you should be looking at the whole thing as building a business. If you want instant money then get a job. If you are new to IM don't expect to make any money for a while unless you get lucky. So maybe you ought to go find another job and work on your business part time until you make money.
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    • Profile picture of the author dealdoc
      Keep your head up no matter what.
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    • Profile picture of the author max2daz
      yes ncmedia, your help would be greatly appreciated! If ever you have the free time to help me out a bit, my email is milasan.marketing(@)live.ca



      Thanks everyone who supported me! I won't give up!
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      • Profile picture of the author James Clark
        To the OP,

        I don't know where you got the idea that it doesn't take money to make money. My experience is it does. Keeping in mind, that we have all been in the situation that you are in now. So, you are in the right place and you are starting from "0". I know how you feel.

        The best of luck to you and if you have any questions just drop me a PM
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  • Profile picture of the author MCD
    Get your sales funnel optimized...

    Traffic -> Squeeze -> Monetized eMail Sequence
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    • Profile picture of the author brettmwindmann
      As others have said above the site looks decent enough but I am having trouble to even find a link that takes me to the product....you need to fix this right away.

      How are you driving traffic to your offer?
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    • Profile picture of the author REHughes
      Hey, Max

      I'm, not gonna be one to try to discourage you and tell you what you should or shouldn't do. I have been in much the same situation in the past and it really doesn't feel good when disappointment is battered with discouragement.

      What I will say is this-

      I have realized, as most everyone here has, that this IM business requires, if nothing else, FOCUS.

      And right now, it appears that you have a situation that is going to drain your focus.

      There is nothing worse than trying to build an internet business out of frustration, because it seems everything has to work TODAY, leaving no room to try different techniques or tactics that might make the change you desire.

      I have to admit that in the past I have written articles or posted something somewhere and wondered why the next day I had no traffic from it. That's just a frustrated mindset hoping for miracles and not logic.

      I still battle daily with this bear and have been for a while, but each day things seem to get a little easier. And, I know if I stay persistent, I will succeed.

      But, maybe it is a time to consider what J.M. said and put your focus on your life right now until you can get some things settled.

      I'm definitely not telling you to to quit by any means.

      But it might be a time to prioritize and see if you can get life on track first.

      Maybe even do this on the side after you get things going your way otherwise.

      But, at any rate, don't give up.

      Don't let the naysayers tell you to quit. If this is your passion, do the things you know you really need to do so that you can fulfill this passion.

      In the end, you will have a greater sense of accomplishment. And a story to tell. Not a fake one either.

      And by all means, take the offer that one of the other members made - I think it was the product owner, maybe - ncmedia -- and reach out for his help.

      Whatever you do, keep your chin up, Max.

      I know that's easy preaching but hard living, but it can be done.

      Anyway, if possible, have a very MERRY CHRISTMAS!

      I'm rooting for you.

      Robert
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  • Profile picture of the author scott33
    if your serious about this, you just need to do some more research, and ask questions like your doing now... you can find everything you need without buying a course and wasting your money on it..

    I know things might be hard right now, you just got to try and focus..
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  • Profile picture of the author russells
    Here's my advice:

    Find A Hungry Niche

    Firstly, you need to find a group of hungry people. People that are hungry for a solution to their problem. They need to be buyers and desperate buyers.

    Like:

    • Dog Training
    • Weightloss
    • Wedding Speeches
    • ETC
    These people are generally looking for a quick solution to their problem and are willing to pay for that information if it'll solve their problem quickly and painfully.

    Anyway, here's what's next:

    Market Research


    Forget keyword research for now. You need to find out exactly what problems or issues people are having so you can fix them up witht he solution.

    In this example I'm going for Dog Training. Go over to Google and search for dog training forums. Also use Yahoo Answers and similar.

    Grab yourself a pen and paper and scan through the forum posts writing down what problems people are having with their dogs and what questions they are asking.

    I did it and found that the most popular issues were:

    • Puppy chewing
    • Puppy messing in house
    • Dogs barking at people
    • ETC
    This is the most important phase. You HAVE to know your market. You need to know your customers and their genuine needs. Nothing beats hearing it from the horses mouth.

    Now what?

    Find an Offer

    So now you've got a group of peoplee that want to solve a set of problems (or one problem) you can search Clickbank (or anywhere else, even your own product) for a product that will solve these issues.

    There are some hot dog training products on CB with excellent affiliate tools to use as well as free reports branded with your hoplink.

    Anyway...

    Oiling The Machine

    Now that you know what your market wants and you've found a product that will solve their problem, you can start creating your sales funnel.

    This is it:

    • A wordpress blog
    • A Squeeze page with a free report
    • An auto-responder series with small nuggets of valuable information
    • Schedule your emails to send 3 informative articles per 1 promotional email.
    • Sign up with as many dog training forums as you can
    • Get mingling and answer questions. Position yourself as the expert.
    • Create a signature with a link to your blog/squeeze page with a good call to action.
    If you post in each forum at least 5 times per day for each forum I guarantee you will get some click-throughs and opt-ins which will be taken through your email series.

    This is how you make money online, my friend.

    If you wanted to you could do some keyword research and write some good quality articles and post on your blog for additional search traffic.

    It all starts with mingling with your market where they hang out.

    I hope that helps and please do PM me.

    Russ
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  • Profile picture of the author Hydroxide
    Getting fire has given you an advantage something we all others don't have. The will and determination to try and succeed in something and rising up from your failures. In this case, it might be internet marketing. Don't give up man
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  • Profile picture of the author imkazu
    the short answer is, hustle
    look at what other successful IMers are doing and learn from them

    its hard to get one site successful, but its hard not to find a winner if you created a 100 sites. find a 'hungry' niche
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  • Dear MAX2DAZ,

    Dude, your site needs a total redo! You don't have affiliate linking set up on it at all. Try to contact me, 'cause whoever you've been listening to up to this point has been killin ya! Lemme guess, trickle traffic and zero sales, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Diver's
    If you have money to spend on adwords but they dont accept you, why not buy ads space at popular blogs or forum relating to your niche.

    or rent an email add with somebody who has subscribers in the niche to sent out promo emails and link to your site. Try advertise it with this.

    Is there a local bulletin/online news that allow link ad, then grab a spot,say one week trial to promote your products.

    These are high traffic site.

    but for instant solution since you are fired, find a offline job to secure food and shelter first. Works in any field you can find, offer house panting service, that is very basic that doesn't requires any serious skill.

    Since you know how to setup a wordpress site, send out flyers and reach out to business premises and offer your web building service plus SEO - gain first page on Google..

    Find a freelancer to conduct the SEO (check out WSO section).

    All the best, and hopefully you'll stay strong to face this situation..
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  • Profile picture of the author Hexor
    Chin up! Dont lose hope because people are created unperfect and it is only spices on life that will make you better. Try selling your service, example is if you are good on website making, try web programming. or if you are good on photoshop, try selling your service. 10$ per banner Hope i've help. If i earn much money, i will spare some to you
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  • Profile picture of the author Ninawa
    First, it's too soon for you to give up. I failed at least 70 times before making any real money, you're just at the beginning. The easiest and fastest way to make money online is to offer a service as a freelancer but make sure to master this service first choose it something close to your ex-job.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    Arrggh..this is when life cant be called a life anymore. Step back a bit and go back to step number one. Research is an essential step in internet marketing. Use google keyword external tool, it'll help you.

    Andrea
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  • Profile picture of the author affhelper
    Honestly, I suggest you to find a job FAST to pay your bills
    Once you have a job and a steady paycheck then get back
    into business. If you just keep doing what you are doing right
    now you might end up driving yourself insane.

    Steady cashflow is key in this business. You need some money
    to get going, test out stuff, or develop stuff.

    If you start spending money on advertising that you need for
    bills it's going to get worse.

    It doesn't matter what job you get. Just get something to get
    you by. Think of it as a temporary solution. Work some job for
    6 months while building your passive online income stream at
    the same time. Then you can quit your job and scale up.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Most of us who started and became successful got our starts as service providers.

    For many, it is a natural starting point. Figure out what you can do, then offer yourself to others as a service provider.

    Then list your new service here:
    Warriors For Hire
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    • Profile picture of the author spesialis
      - sign up to aweber

      - find or create a 5 or 10 pages free report :

      How to make your own beats without spending 2000$ on equipments


      Make it bold, red colored, clearly visible

      - Change that To all visitors: Greetings, I would like to welcome bla bla bla into your free report, in exchange for their name + email address (in other words, set up an autoresponder)

      - After they fill the name + email address, send them to OTO page offering whatever products you're promoting

      I don't know what product you're promoting and I don't care, steps are the same, find/create a free report and do it now!
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  • Profile picture of the author TomVa
    I had the same damn problem in 2000, found myself going into adult sites, Made a few thousand the first 2 weeks and was hooked every since! But that money tree has gone.. lol unless you know what you're doing and you work hard! I've been doing adult since 2000 and it is so much easier to get into and make a few dollars! HELL maybe that is my niche, maybe I should write a ebook that really makes someone money in adult!! LOL Who knows! But Merry xmas brother and my thoughts will be with you,,, If you want to chat pm and I will get in touch with u and help you make some money for the time being, hell I may hire you if you have any skills!
    Ttyl
    Tom ps if you want me to show you how to make money IT WILL NOT be in MAINSTREAM.. im still learning this damn thing lol
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    Since you are not an experienced internet marketer, you won’t make enough money now. First of all you have to learn many things. Keep reading all posts in this forum, and you’ll learn a lot with time.

    Look for a job offline, and work online half-time because you need money in order to pay your bills and you are going to delay learning how to really make money online to pay for everything.

    Internet marketing is a whole system. Don’t believe that it is easy to make money on the internet. It becomes easy only if you know what to do. Before knowing very well how to maintain an online business, or how to promote affiliate products, you won’t have any success. You may sell something, but you won’t have a regular income if you are not well organized.

    Selling your services as a writer for example, is a good idea if you have the ability to write good articles. However, there is too much competition in this field. Nothing is easy in the beginning.

    This is why you must do something else to make money for your survival, until you’ll manage to make enough money online.
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  • Profile picture of the author VividMind
    "Whether you think you can do something, or you think you can't, either way you're right" (c) Ford, I think.

    I've noticed things started to change in my life tremendously, as I started to believe in myself. I'm very convinced that one gets in his life what he really believes he deserves (this might not be conscious). So, whenever you want to do/change anything - start from working on your beliefs and your vision. It's tons and tons of inner work, but I don't know any road that's faster than that.

    Try reading... no, not reading... seriously working with "Beyond Positive Thinking" by Robert Anthony. (there are tons of books like that out there, I've just picked that one, cause it really appealed to me).

    So, this is my sincere and best advice I can give you - never lose your faith and always start working on the level of your beliefs. When you change your beliefs - everything else will change automatically. Best of luck and season's greetings!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sweely99
    I'd be glad to help you out.

    If I - as a teenager - can make tons of money online, you can as well!

    Send me an email at elalaouisosseynabil at gmail.
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