Outsourcing an Ebook Creation? Where do you go?

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I see that some people outsource their ebook creation/Info products for example making an "cityville guide" and submit it on clickbank.,

But where do you or these guys hire them? and also I know that some of the outsourcers they hire doesn't play cityville so how can they create a guide :confused: So if you were to outsource on making a "cityville guide" shouldn't you find someone who plays the game?
Or does intensive resaerch just really helps alot on making the info product?
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  • Profile picture of the author Josiah Grimes
    hi,

    Check elance [dot] com to find writers. Normally you will create an outline of the book you want made. So, the person who is writing the ebook will research the different topics on your outline as they are writing. Normally they will write on any topic. There are a few writers who are subject specific though.

    Another option is to put out an ad for a person who is familiar with cityville that is willing to write a book for you.

    Hope this info helps.

    Best Regards,

    Josiah
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by dags View Post

    I know that some of the outsourcers they hire doesn't play cityville so how can they create a guide
    I'm a writer. I don't do the product research for you. If you want to tell people something, you start by telling me, and then I make it all nice and professional and spell everything right.

    For example, you might give me some tip on Cityville (which I've never played, so this probably isn't anything like a tip you'd send me) that went "ATMs are 500 coins and make 50 a day on the corner, so put one on all four corners." And I would write something like this:

    One of the more useful items you can buy is the ATM, which costs a whopping 500 coins up front, but if you place it on the corner it generates an income of 50 coins each day. After ten days, the ATM has basically paid for itself, and you're starting to bring in a profit. The only real problem is that your city only has four corners, so once you've got an ATM at each corner, you've exhausted the income potential of ATMs - but 200 coins a day is honestly not bad at all.
    I just took your dozen and a half words of notes, and turned it into almost a hundred words of material people would pay for. And at my normal per-word rates, you'd pay $9.50 for that.

    The normal Clickbank product I produce is about a hundred of those and costs about a thousand bucks. Beyond that, of course, you still need your graphics and web site and sales page. A good, solid design will run less than half what I charge to write the product. So for less than $1,500 you get a complete turnkey product based on your notes.

    Of course, with CB commissions being what they are, you need to sell 150 or so copies of that product to recoup your money... but that's never been a problem for my clients.

    And now I have to drop the bombshell, before people start complaining that I'm just promoting my own services here: I have zero interest in writing any more Clickbank products for people. My clients are far too happy, and their notes have become far too sparse, and I am basically having to do almost all the research myself.

    And for the amount of work I'm doing to get the products together, once I finish the current CB product I'm building for a client, all my CB products from that point forward are going to be mine.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fermina
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      I'm a writer. I don't do the product research for you. If you want to tell people something, you start by telling me, and then I make it all nice and professional and spell everything right.

      For example, you might give me some tip on Cityville (which I've never played, so this probably isn't anything like a tip you'd send me) that went "ATMs are 500 coins and make 50 a day on the corner, so put one on all four corners." And I would write something like this:



      I just took your dozen and a half words of notes, and turned it into almost a hundred words of material people would pay for. And at my normal per-word rates, you'd pay $9.50 for that.

      The normal Clickbank product I produce is about a hundred of those and costs about a thousand bucks. Beyond that, of course, you still need your graphics and web site and sales page. A good, solid design will run less than half what I charge to write the product. So for less than $1,500 you get a complete turnkey product based on your notes.

      Of course, with CB commissions being what they are, you need to sell 150 or so copies of that product to recoup your money... but that's never been a problem for my clients.

      And now I have to drop the bombshell, before people start complaining that I'm just promoting my own services here: I have zero interest in writing any more Clickbank products for people. My clients are far too happy, and their notes have become far too sparse, and I am basically having to do almost all the research myself.

      And for the amount of work I'm doing to get the products together, once I finish the current CB product I'm building for a client, all my CB products from that point forward are going to be mine.
      Thanks for the Advice too bad you arent making products for people anymore.
      But I think some people hire people to make products even if they don't know anything about the product. The main reason is that they just want to make money? So what I am saying is that what if the one who is hiring the writer don't know anything about the product also they just want a product to be created and wait for the money to come
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      • Profile picture of the author aandersen
        Originally Posted by dags View Post

        Thanks for the Advice too bad you arent making products for people anymore.
        But I think some people hire people to make products even if they don't know anything about the product. The main reason is that they just want to make money? So what I am saying is that what if the one who is hiring the writer don't know anything about the product also they just want a product to be created and wait for the money to come
        Either you need to

        invest some of your time and do the groundwork yourself

        invest some of your money into a writer who is willing to do the groundwork for you

        or

        do neither, and wind up with a poorly written product that isn't going make you very much money.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by dags View Post

        So what I am saying is that what if the one who is hiring the writer don't know anything about the product also they just want a product to be created and wait for the money to come
        Then they have to find someone who can create the product. It's not hard to find a writer who can go through your notes and turn them into a product; some are better than others, but they're all over the place. When you need a writer who can just plain create the product, however, you run into problems... because now you need someone who either already knows your niche, or is willing to do all the research for you, and yet would rather work for you than sell the product themselves.

        It's that last part that I've been losing lately. I'm much less satisfied than I thought I would be with a flat fee while someone else made the back-end profits, and it drives me flat-out nuts that I can't point to the products and tell people I wrote them. Steven Wagenheim warned me about this, and I really should have listened.
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