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tehnolife

Banned 13 years ago

If it has a product name on it,it's good to stay away from it. You can get in troubles.

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vij 13 years ago

Originally Posted by tehnolife

If it has a product name on it,it's good to stay away from it. You can get in troubles.

Merry Christmas!

Its not a brand name - its more like tabletop.net (not exactly that domain though). I am just worried if the domain has a good chance of being banned by google or something.

If there is adsense on it does that mean it has a good chance of getting indexed by Google ?
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Alexandre Valois

13 years ago

I just did some brainstorming for a project and have a domain I really wanted to grab. Unfortunately it's parked and the registrar is asking 477$ for it.

Am I confident the product has enough potential to make that back?

Yes.

Are there alternatives I can use instead?

None that I can think of at the moment. But at this price, it's worth taking some time to think about it. Unlike 10 unregistered domains, I don't really have to fear someone will snatch it overnight, do I?

Looks like we're in the same boat

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vij

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexandre Valois

I just did some brainstorming for a project and have a domain I really wanted to grab. Unfortunately it's parked and the registrar is asking 477$ for it.

Am I confident the product has enough potential to make that back?

Yes.

Are there alternatives I can use instead?

None that I can think of at the moment. But at this price, it's worth taking some time to think about it. Unlike 10 unregistered domains, I don't really have to fear someone will snatch it overnight, do I?

Looks like we're in the same boat

If it was currently indexed I would have bought it in a jiffy. But the domain isnt showing up any results when I enter the domain name in google. This is normal for a parked domain right?

The domain has adsense though. If a domain is parked and unindexed currently but has adsense does it mean it isnt banned from Google. I am only woried about it not getting indexed after I make the purchase.

Also waybackmachine.org says the domain has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.
Why would anyone do that?

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vij

13 years ago

Originally Posted by vij

If it was currently indexed I would have bought it in a jiffy. But the domain isnt showing up any results when I enter the domain name in google. This is normal for a parked domain right?

The domain has adsense though. If a domain is parked and unindexed currently but has adsense does it mean it isnt banned from Google. I am only woried about it not getting indexed after I make the purchase.

Also waybackmachine.org says the domain has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.
Why would anyone do that?

Can anyone answer my question please?

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REHughes 13 years ago

Hi, vij

I browsed a course a good while back on purchasing auction domains.

Best I remember that was one of the BIG red flags to watch for, is if the site has been blocked.

Seems it might have been a spam site or something of that nature and might actually be blocked by the "brand" owner itself.

If that is the case, it will never go anywhere.

Not really sure there though.

But you are saying it has had 5 registrars? And 5 drops?

Does this signify that possibly they all found they could do nothing with it and each let it go?

Not sure, but sounds like it is probably gonna be a raw deal for you, or else seems someone else would have already kept it and worked it out.

Just my thoughts.

Robert
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bgmacaw

13 years ago

Originally Posted by vij

If it was currently indexed I would have bought it in a jiffy. But the domain isnt showing up any results when I enter the domain name in google. This is normal for a parked domain right?

Yes, it's typical for a parked domain to be deindexed by Google. Ones that are still indexed probably just haven't been detected yet.

Originally Posted by vij

The domain has adsense though. If a domain is parked and unindexed currently but has adsense does it mean it isnt banned from Google. I am only woried about it not getting indexed after I make the purchase.

Is it Adsense for Domains? If so, it should be OK although it can take some extra work (ie getting good strong authority links) to get these domains re-indexed once you add content to them.

Originally Posted by vij

Also waybackmachine.org says the domain has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.
Why would anyone do that?

Parking often blocks 'bots and some people block 'bots for various reasons ranging from nefarious activities to maintaining private areas for subscribers to simple configuration mistakes. I wouldn't worry too much about this though unless other potential problems were evident.

As for spending $450 just to get the exact keyword match in general, I would have to be absolutely sure of the value of the keyword before I'd spend that kind of money on an undeveloped, deindexed, domain. I wouldn't have a problem spending that much on a developed and indexed domain with established quality links though.

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vij

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dean Martin

Vij,

Did you do a link search on google & yahoo? The 'flavor' of the sites that had links back to that domain will give you an idea what was there before.

You could buy it and do a WSO case study on how to get your banned domain re-indexed

The domain does not have a single backlink. Checked using yahoo site explorer.

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

Yes, it's typical for a parked domain to be deindexed by Google. Ones that are still indexed probably just haven't been detected yet.

Is it Adsense for Domains? If so, it should be OK although it can take some extra work (ie getting good strong authority links) to get these domains re-indexed once you add content to them.

Thanks for your interesting reply. Was very helpful indeed. Yes it is "adsense for domains".

According to Google

Google provides a simple publicly available complaint procedure and, if notified of a legitimate complaint against a specific domain, Google will no longer serve ads to that domain

So I suppose the domain is clean(or could it still be difficult to index)
Will a domain that is parked with "Google adsense for domains" be a safe bet to get indexed once it gets sufficient backlinks? Atleast does it mean that under Google's eyes the website is clean and therefore has a high probability of NOT have indexing problems.
(Yes guys, I wish the answer is yes)

But I am mainly sceptical of the fact that it has had 5 registrars and 5 drops - this for a domain that was created on 31-Jan-07. That's bad right?

Having said that I have seen even the domains that have been dropped 3 times in 3 years get indexed.

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bgmacaw

13 years ago

Originally Posted by vij

So I suppose the domain is clean(or could it still be difficult to index) Will a domain that is parked with "Google adsense for domains" be a safe bet to get indexed once it gets sufficient backlinks? Atleast does it mean that under Google's eyes the website is clean and therefore has a high probability of NOT have indexing problems.
(Yes guys, I wish the answer is yes)

Remember that search quality and Adsense are two different departments at Google and don't directly work together. Just because it's OK with Adsense doesn't mean it's OK with search quality and vice versa.

In general, it can help 'launder' a domain to put it in Adsense for Domains parking for a while but this doesn't seem to always work. I think it depends on the domain's backstory which can be hard to determine sometimes.

Originally Posted by vij

But I am mainly sceptical of the fact that it has had 5 registrars and 5 drops - this for a domain that was created on 31-Jan-07. That's bad right?

I would consider that a sign of either heavy flipping, domain speculation, activity or some problems with the domain in terms of developing it. As I mentioned above, I'd be very hesitant to buy this domain at the price mentioned without it having considerable development for profit potential.

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Joshyybaxx

13 years ago

If it's going to bring a return then it's a good investment and you should jump at it, if there could be a problem I'd be carefull - but if you're confident you can make money on the product either way I'd go for it! Whats the worst that could happen? You'd lose a little coin

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vij

13 years ago

Thanks Robert, I was thinking on the same lines, I just wanted to know if anyone else was thinking the same I guess coz the domain is too tempting.

Darn thing isnt indexed and has been blocked by the owner through robot.txt, surely who would do that...

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Gary King 13 years ago

Originally Posted by vij

Darn thing isnt indexed and has been blocked by the owner through robot.txt, surely who would do that...

Blocking waybackmachine is done for several reasons...

Sometimes its because people are doing things on the site as you are suggesting - more black hat type things.

Other times, archiving type sites are simply blocked to keep old information out of reach. For example, if you put out a blog that has information on growing flowers, but that information is so specific that ONLY the current information should be followed, you don't necessarily want the last 5 years of blog posts to be available from an archive location, so you block archive.org, etc.

It's a silly example, but hopefully it makes sense...

Have a great day!

Gary
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CDarklock

13 years ago

Originally Posted by vij

Darn thing isnt indexed and has been blocked by the owner through robot.txt, surely who would do that...

I think people are misinterpreting this, so let me clarify something.

The person who owns the domain has voluntarily blocked search engine spiders from indexing the site.

It's not indexed because he's told them not to index it.

I don't know why anyone would do this, either, but when you come right down to it this is not a red flag that the domain is bad. It's a red flag that the owner is weird.

I'd make the sale contingent on indexing. Escrow the funds, and if you can't get the site indexed in a reasonable time, refuse the transfer and give back the domain.

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vij

13 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

I think people are misinterpreting this, so let me clarify something.

The person who owns the domain has voluntarily blocked search engine spiders from indexing the site.

It's not indexed because he's told them not to index it.

I don't know why anyone would do this, either, but when you come right down to it this is not a red flag that the domain is bad. It's a red flag that the owner is weird.

I'd make the sale contingent on indexing. Escrow the funds, and if you can't get the site indexed in a reasonable time, refuse the transfer and give back the domain.

Weird (Or) maybe the domain owner is a smartass.

Its on sale through Godaddy auctions. Wonder if anyone will agree to indexing condition.

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DNChamp

13 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

I think people are misinterpreting this, so let me clarify something.

The person who owns the domain has voluntarily blocked search engine spiders from indexing the site.

It's not indexed because he's told them not to index it.

I don't know why anyone would do this, either, but when you come right down to it this is not a red flag that the domain is bad. It's a red flag that the owner is weird.

I'd make the sale contingent on indexing. Escrow the funds, and if you can't get the site indexed in a reasonable time, refuse the transfer and give back the domain.

If the domain goes into escrow the longest USUALLY you can hold it will be 3 days. There not going to let you "test drive it" unless you go out of escrow and have a contract to do so with the domain owner.

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CDarklock 13 years ago

Originally Posted by DNChamp

If the domain goes into escrow the longest USUALLY you can hold it will be 3 days.

Do you consider three days insufficient time to get indexed?
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- DNChamp 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  Do you consider three days insufficient time to get indexed?
  
  Sometimes I can get a domain (website) indexed within an hour sometimes it may take a week. Since there is no Guaranteed time frame its pointless to state a time and if it does not happen then forget it.....Google is funny on how it operates as im sure you know and since nothing is wrote in stone a timetable is useless for "seeing how things go" for buying a domain.
  
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  CDarklock 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by DNChamp
  
  Since there is no Guaranteed time frame its pointless to state a time and if it does not happen then forget it.....
  
  Bingo.
  
  If I can't get it ranked in three days, no matter whether it's Google's problem or mine, the deal is off and I want my money back. Here's your domain. If it ends up indexed in a few more days, email me and maybe I'll still want it - but no guarantees.
  
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cashcow

13 years ago

To me, the fact that it is not indexed is a big red flag.

I don't think the fact that adsense is on it has anything to do with the indexing, if you have an adsense account you can put it on domains that aren't indexed and if you have a domain de-indexed adsnse will still run on it. There's no relationship between the two.

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Alex.Fields

13 years ago

If you have some experiences in doing this and already have some profitable campaigns why not just buy it ?

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Winlin

13 years ago

I'd probably steer clear of this domain name and seller, sounds like too many variables that could be a waste of "money" and more importantly "time".

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Dean Martin

13 years ago

Vij,

Did you do a link search on google & yahoo? The 'flavor' of the sites that had links back to that domain will give you an idea what was there before.

You could buy it and do a WSO case study on how to get your banned domain re-indexed

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fullmatrix

13 years ago

I'm not sure why would people block waybackmachine, but for $450 for a domain name, I would consider not to buy it if I have a single doubt. There are many exact match domain names with less price floating around.

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DNChamp

13 years ago

keep in mind as well MOST parked domains never get indexed BUT once developed they do. As a domain seller it does not matter if adsense is on it or not but with anything just do a bit of research. I have sold many "parked domains" that never got indexed but as soon as the owner built it out and did there SEO it was never a problem.

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sheep

13 years ago

$450 is practically nothing for a good exact match domain if you are going to develop it.

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TPFLegionaire

13 years ago

Am I right in thinking that the extension of this domain is .COM?

Have you checked the availability of .NET, .ORG, .INFO, .EU (or some others like .CO.UK or .IM)

And whilst the value of a .COM is likely to be higher than the other domains, I understand you want to build a business around a type of product, not domain flipping right? What is preventing you from doing it on another TLD (provided they are available) . With content and backlinks they will rank just as well.

Also, is the wait deciding on this purchase costing you money by not getting your business up and running on an alternative TLD?

Good luck

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Always-A-Warrior

13 years ago

Reg the .CO as it has potentials. PM me if need help looking for a good name.

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Hamza

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Always-A-Warrior

Reg the .CO as it has potentials. PM me if need help looking for a good name.

Potentials like what ?

Do you mean that they might become more powerful and popular in the future ?

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Always-A-Warrior

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Hamza

Potentials like what ?

Do you mean that they might become more powerful and popular in the future ?

As a fulltime domainer for many years now I find the .co (not .com) is becoming more acceptable when the top extensions (.com, .net and .org) are not available.

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Hamza

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Always-A-Warrior

As a fulltime domainer for many years now I find the .co (not .com) is becoming more acceptable when the top extensions (.com, .net and .org) are not available.

Yeah, i see what you mean ...

But I'm talking about them becoming more acceptable from a SEO prospective ?

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Always-A-Warrior 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Hamza

Yeah, i see what you mean ...

But I'm talking about them becoming more acceptable from a SEO prospective ?

SEO simply means optimized for search engine so all you need is fresh relevant content, backlinks and daily updating, ext. doesn't matter but it is good to have the top ones but you probably already knew that.

@vij - if it is not indexed then probably it is banned and if so let it go its not worth your time. Somebody did the name wrong. Always another way into the cookie jar.
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humbledmarket Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Hamza

Yeah, i see what you mean ...

But I'm talking about them becoming more acceptable from a SEO prospective ?

It's actually quite ok from a SEO perspective as well. I remember reading it somewhere that google does not deem it geotargetted any more(it use to be a country specific domain name) now if you set your google web masters to global it can be found globally.

I also own several .co domain names which I see index and going well in google.

In fact It's a little big ambitious and crazy but just as a sample I'm trying to rank a .co domain name with on site optimization to the term "Best WebHosting" Yeh Crazy but It will get to the First Page

Additionally to OP you should consider if the price and risk is worth your investment. Perhaps check out namepros people there can probably help this question a little bit better than internet marketers. Some of us might have some basics but most just know how to market ect not domain flipping. Also you might want to try to send gene a pm? He's a domain expert imho
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Sparhawke

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Always-A-Warrior

As a fulltime domainer for many years now I find the .co (not .com) is becoming more acceptable when the top extensions (.com, .net and .org) are not available.

Are you serious??!

It will be DECADES before .co is thought of as acceptable beyond domainers shores, look at the .us extension, it has been years now and the American people STILL HATE IT.

There are some extensions that make sense in various ways, like.me, .us, .rs and .tv but the one thing they all have in common are that they are vanity names only and once you get past the very top layer there is no substance whatsoever.

.CO has been made to replace .com as a business extension (though .com was NEVER meant to mean business in the first place but .COMmunications which makes more sense since it was military controlled for years) just in the same was .biz was, and look how disastrously that turned out.

In order to start seeing some kind of pull away from the big three and from the major extensions of .uk and .de you will need to start seeing 20% saturation at least, otherwise people will simply assume you made a typo.

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vij

13 years ago

Thanks for the great input guys. the domain in question suits me very well, thats the reason I am pursuing it.

There is an update:
The seller convinced me that the domain has no indexing problems and is a clean one.
The parked domain does not show results when I type in domain.com in google but there are 4 google cache results as late as Nov 28th when I type in site:domainname.com
So it looks good right.

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MFactoR

13 years ago

A word of advise from someone who's already been there before...DONT DO IT Slick!
Spend the money on something else that will actually produce profit rather then an up front loss!!

May the power be with you!

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vij

13 years ago

Bought the domain. Indexed in 2 hours and page 2 in 10 days

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DNChamp 13 years ago

Originally Posted by vij

Bought the domain. Indexed in 2 hours and page 2 in 10 days

Good job.....dont let parked domains scare you away again
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cashcow 13 years ago

Originally Posted by vij

Bought the domain. Indexed in 2 hours and page 2 in 10 days

Excellent! Go to know. Looks like I learned something from this thread then ... it's not necessarily bad if an expired domain is not indexed.
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