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Is This Possible And Problem-free?

by King Shiloh Banned
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If I set up a PayPal account in the United States and want to access my account, do transactions with the account and so on right here in my country, Nigeria, is it possible and problem-free?

You have to bear in mind that my country is not a "PayPal-country". I mean is the idea of operating the account in a country not listed by PayPal going to cause any problem to the account?

Thanks.

Cheers.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jake Gray
    I wouldn't recommend it. They lock anything that looks "strange".
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    • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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      Originally Posted by Scientific View Post

      I wouldn't recommend it. They lock anything that looks "strange".
      So, it would be a problem if I log into the account the account right from Nigeria.

      I'm still curious.

      Does it mean that a PayPal account holder cannot access his account if he travels to another country that is not on PayPal's list of countries?

      Cheers.
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      • Profile picture of the author Vanessa Reece
        Originally Posted by King Shiloh View Post

        So, it would be a problem if I log into the account the account right from Nigeria.

        I'm still curious.

        Does it mean that a PayPal account holder cannot access his account if he travels to another country that is not on PayPal's list of countries?

        Cheers.
        You have a valid point there but here's the thing - if you sign up for paypal and use misleading information that is what could be a problem.
        I'm not sure if you are saying you personally would set up the account or someone in a different country you know would set up the account?

        No, I don't think a business man would have an issue doing anything in his paypal account if he were in a non-paypal account country. But here's the thing, PayPal can be very temperamental so I wouldn't bank on them not pulling an account.

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      • Profile picture of the author cindybidar
        Originally Posted by King Shiloh View Post


        Does it mean that a PayPal account holder cannot access his account if he travels to another country that is not on PayPal's list of countries?
        My husband travels in Morocco (a non-PayPal country) from time to time, so I called PayPal about this. They claim it's not a problem. However, if you read their forums, you'll find many complaints from people who travel (even to PayPal friendly countries) and get their accounts locked when they try to access from another location.

        My advice is not to do it. Unless you are a resident of a PayPal-friendly country, your best bet is to find another method. Have you looked at 2Checkout? I've worked with freelancers from Nigeria who use it without a problem, and it integrates with PayPal on the buyer's end.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Any paypal account that is accessed from Nigeria - will be automatically frozen. In fact, unless you make advance arrangements, accessing any paypal account from another country will freeze it till you provide explanation.

          Having a proxy US address is not an answer as you will be asked for proof of residence and will not be able to provide it. Paypal is clear about not accepting Nigerian accounts - and you are asking for ways to scam paypal.

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          • Profile picture of the author Vanessa Reece
            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            Any paypal account that is accessed from Nigeria - will be automatically frozen. In fact, unless you make advance arrangements, accessing any paypal account from another country will freeze it till you provide explanation.

            Having a proxy US address is not an answer as you will be asked for proof of residence and will not be able to provide it. Paypal is clear about not accepting Nigerian accounts - and you are asking for ways to scam paypal.

            kay
            Kay I can understand it being frozen in Nigeria maybe but I have never had a problem with accessing mine in several different countries around the globe. Granted - never been to Nigeria.

            I've had my account for several years.

            I didn't go outside the UK this year though so maybe Paypal have got stricter in the interim not sure.

            Thanks, this info is interesting to know.

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          • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            Any paypal account that is accessed from Nigeria - will be automatically frozen. In fact, unless you make advance arrangements, accessing any paypal account from another country will freeze it till you provide explanation.

            Having a proxy US address is not an answer as you will be asked for proof of residence and will not be able to provide it. Paypal is clear about not accepting Nigerian accounts - and you are asking for ways to scam paypal.

            kay
            Sorry, I'm not asking for ways to scam paypal.

            A warrior friend offered to open a paypal account for me in his country so that I can have payment options. Then, I told him that I might not be able to access the account from Nigeria but he said I can access the account but I can't do any transaction. So, I want to know the possibility.

            I'm totally sorry if I shouldn't have asked such question.

            Cheers.
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            • Profile picture of the author Vanessa Reece
              I personally didn't think your question was bad - I think you meant it in all innocence. In a perfect world individuals would be treated fairly regardless of what others do in their country. It must be frustrating.

              However, has Rsberg said, you should look for alternatives. I'm pretty sure their are people on here who've had to seek alternatives for one reason or another - run a search since I'm pretty sure I've seen threads on here regarding alternatives.

              Hope you find an alternative.

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              • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                I'm not asking for ways to scam paypal.
                I have to admit - I was surprised to see YOU asking this question. I've come to see you as a reputable marketer who tries to do things the right way.

                I know from experience that even if a partner logs into my paypal account from another country - the account is frozen until I've contacted paypal. You can add an "authorized" person to your paypal account to avoid this problem. However, if the authorized person is in a non-authorized country, paypal will notice that.

                I know some in non-approved countries have been able to have Paypal accounts. Usually it's having a friend in a nearby, approved country who opens an account and all transactions are done through that person. It's not easy.

                The address verification seems to happen mostly with US based accounts - and that may be because many try to say they are in the US...and aren't.

                I'd look into other services where I knew my money would be safe. Any violation (or suspected violation) of paypal terms can freeze the account for six months and that's a big problem.

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                • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
                  Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                  I have to admit - I was surprised to see YOU asking this question. I've come to see you as a reputable marketer who tries to do things the right way.
                  I kind of saw the question as being "is this the right way?" - which is what I generally expect from King Shiloh.

                  Sometimes unethical, disreputable marketers can be very convincing in trying to make you one of them, because their consciences rely on the idea that everyone else would be unethical and disreputable too... if they only knew how.

                  So I'm sure King Shiloh has many, many countrymen trying to convince him to "join the dark side" so they can sleep better at night.

                  But they're lying about the cookies.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                    Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

                    I kind of saw the question as being "is this the right way?" - which is what I generally expect from King Shiloh.
                    Undoubtedly.

                    Although I don't doubt that KS is rightly proud of many other aspects of his country, I admit that I do feel sorry for the struggle he sometimes has, in this context, because of its collective online financial/commercial reputation. He's a great credit to them and to this forum, and on this occasion I find myself just wishing I could find ways to help and things to suggest.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Gary King
                    Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

                    I kind of saw the question as being "is this the right way?" - which is what I generally expect from King Shiloh.
                    Agreed... I don't think the question had a negative vein to it.


                    Originally Posted by James Rogers View Post

                    One more thing: 2checkout can be your best choice.


                    King, take a look at 2checkout - they support Nigeria from what I can tell.

                    2Checkout.com - Merchant Account / Credit Card Processing Alternative » Country Codes

                    You'll see Nigeria is listed there.

                    Additionally, they do support Paypal payments - they use THEIR paypal account, and the money goes into your 2CO account from there, so it MAY be a way to legitimately accept Paypal payments without risk of getting banned (or scammed by someone "HELPING" by setting up an account for you).

                    BTW - not saying the person offering to help was trying to scam you, but if you start pumping cash into that paypal account, they COULD lock you out of it - since Paypal will show them as the owner, you would have no recourse.

                    Hope it helps!

                    Gary

                    P.S. - here's an article from CNN that lists 5 paypal alternatives - not sure which countries they each take, but somewhere to start.

                    http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/...fsb/index.html
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            • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
              Originally Posted by King Shiloh View Post

              Sorry, I'm not asking for ways to scam paypal.

              A warrior friend offered to open a paypal account for me in his country so that I can have payment options.
              What come to my mind is the weird income tax problems this would cause for your friend. It would appear as income to him, and he would be taxed on it... especially if PayPal is going to start issuing 1099s.

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  • Profile picture of the author Rsberg
    Is it possible...yes

    Problem free...no

    There are reasons PayPal doesn't accept accounts from certain countries, if you are in one of those countries then you should look for other alternatives instead of ways around their rules and TOS.
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  • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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    I appreciate each and every one of you for your comments. Every advice is well taken.

    What would I do without WF members? I guess nothing.

    Have a wonderful holiday season.

    Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lateef Olajide
    Originally Posted by King Shiloh View Post

    If I set up a PayPal account in the United States and want to access my account, do transactions with the account and so on right here in my country, Nigeria, is it possible and problem-free?

    You have to bear in mind that my country is not a "PayPal-country". I mean is the idea of operating the account in a country not listed by PayPal going to cause any problem to the account?

    Thanks.

    Cheers.

    Happy Holidays and a Prosperous New Year!
    Brother, I will advice you don't do that. Most guys that are doing that easily get into trouble. I know some people and company do have account that is being operated for them by allies abroad.

    I don't have paypal account. But if it's a must I buy something using paypal I have friends that can help do that for me. And if I have product that it's a must I use paypal to receive payment I rather find a partner that can use paypal without problem. Though I prefer using 2checkout for product sales most of the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Smale
    Why don't you just open a legitimate LLC in the US and open a Paypal account for your company? It's not overly costly, and if you are serious about your business you should do it. There are plenty of companies out there that can help you with this. Using other people's accounts is bound to end in trouble.

    If accessing the account from Nigeria is an issue, get yourself a VPN with a US IP and ensure you use that when logging in.

    Once you have a LLC you can open a bank account and a ton of other stuff you probably can't get right now. I'm in the UK so can open 99% of accounts I need, but still have a number of companies in various countries for various purposes.
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    • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
      When I first joined the Warrior Forum almost 4 years ago back in 2007, someone brought up a very interesting story:

      Ladan Lashkari: If this girl can succeed - so can you! | Eric's Tips

      She was unable to open a PayPal account, and had many other hurdles to overcome.

      I don't know how she has progressed since, but she was doing very well at the time despite having so many restrictions.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Rogers
    I am not in the US and have a US Paypal. The country I live in can use PP to send but not to receive money. I got a US Virtual Bank Account and verified PP instantly. I check my account when I get a payment and I have made payments as well from here without any problem.

    I could eventually have a problem for this, and if Nigeria is totally blacklisted then you will have problems.

    If you are nterested in the VBA let me know and I give you contact details with the Indian guy that sold it to me

    I am not suggesting ways to scam scammers, I am just answering your question from my personal case
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  • Profile picture of the author James Rogers
    One more thing: 2checkout can be your best choice.

    Find out if they accept selling services and/or products and their fees.

    FastSpring also lets you receive PP payments without you having one, but I think they don't accept selling services, just digital products

    Take a look at Plimus as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author charlesburke
    Back in about 1998 or so, when I first wanted to open a Paypal account, it was a very new thing and Japan, where I lived, was not yet on their list. I decided to form a US corporation, set up a US bank account, and run Paypal through that.

    During the two or three years before Paypal finally came to Japan, I logged on often, and there was never a problem.

    My account is still tied to the same US bank account, and now I live in Thailand, but there's never a problem logging in from here either.

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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    If you log in from a blacklisted country, they will lock the account.

    Ask my friend Mohammad Afaq about when he went to visit his grandparents in Pakistan.
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  • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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    Gary,

    I appreciate your response though words might not be enough to express it.

    Certainly, I will look at other alternatives closely, particularly 2CO and take worthwhile decisions.

    I also thank everyone that contributed to this thread. I strongly believe that good name is better than riches, money, whatever.

    Every Nigerian and/or non-Nigerian that has met me one-on-one, online, offline, wherever know that I'm an Apostle of integrity, honesty, solid reputation...and I will never trade it for anything.

    I have never scammed anybody and I will never try it even till I leave this planet.

    Again, many thanks to everyone that contributed to this thread.

    Happy holidays.

    Cheers.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by King Shiloh View Post

      Gary,

      I appreciate your response though words might not be enough to express it.

      Certainly, I will look at other alternatives closely, particularly 2CO and take worthwhile decisions.

      I also thank everyone that contributed to this thread. I strongly believe that good name is better than riches, money, whatever.

      Every Nigerian and/or non-Nigerian that has met me one-on-one, online, offline, wherever know that I'm an Apostle of integrity, honesty, solid reputation...and I will never trade it for anything.

      I have never scammed anybody and I will never try it even till I leave this planet.

      Again, many thanks to everyone that contributed to this thread.

      Happy holidays.

      Cheers.

      When you get rich, move to Dubai... Might help you out a bit...

      I know you are the man you say you are, but the world is scared of your countrymen.

      Funny thing is most Nigerian scams originate from U.S. and Canada.
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        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        When you get rich, move to Dubai... Might help you out a bit...

        I know you are the man you say you are, but the world is scared of your countrymen.

        Funny thing is most Nigerian scams originate from U.S. and Canada.
        I have some horror stories that I've encountered centering around this, but it's probably not something to be discussed in an open forum. Perhaps we could talk about it someday on the phone - they've gotten really ingenious and creative with their duplicitous scamming here in the US.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    Have you heard about Fastspring.com, This is a good solution for you. Even you access the USA paypal account with a VPN, one day paypal team will ask SSN, proof of address to verify the account. In that time, you can submit fake documents. So best option is using a merchant account from 2co, fastspring or plimus.
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    • Profile picture of the author VanessaB
      King Shiloh,
      Have you ever given any thought to moving?

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        Originally Posted by DanielleS View Post

        King Shiloh,
        Have you ever given any thought to moving?

        -Dani
        Yes, if you would be kind enough to take care of that.
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          There are alternative paypal processors to paypal.
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          • Profile picture of the author KevinTorrence
            I was kinda thinking along the lines of getting a US LLC/Corp & bank account or whatever & running it along that direction. But I really don't know. It's just an idea and may have just as many problems too.

            Either way, it's pretty awesome that you're sticking it out despite all the hurdles. That's really cool.
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  • Profile picture of the author FranciscoDancon
    When I was living in Antigua I accessed my paypal account and boom they shut it down. I had to jump through so many hoops, including calling them and having my mother in the US change the password. It was a real pain, but they then put a note on my account that I was temporarily in Antigua and then there wasn't a problem. So if you have valid US information you should be able to call them and tell them you are spending some time in Nigeria and they should put a note on your account.
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  • Profile picture of the author dannyogolo
    @King Sholoh,
    Im also in Port Harcourt and was having same issues.
    I cant PM you cos I have few posts.
    PM me your number or call me on 08023079359 lets discuss and see how we can get thru this hurdle, its really a pin in d as.s (I maybe in d village Friday and Saturday 7th and 8th)
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