Buying Clickbank product through own Affiliate Link..

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Theres a piece of software I want to buy but its pretty expensive, I want buy through Aff. Link to obv save money.

I found one discussion on this and it wasn't really cleared up.

Some were saying it's fine, others saying its against Clickbanks T&C's.
#affiliate #buying #clickbank #link #product
  • Profile picture of the author ronijs
    So can I buy from my own affiliate link?
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    • Profile picture of the author renukoot
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      • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
        Buying from your affiliate link is against Clickbank TOS.

        It's not against their TOS to buy from an affiliate link of the guy who lives down the street from you, or for him to buy from your affiliate link.

        Or you could find a an online friend who might rebate all or most of the commission.

        You still may have a problem with Clickbank's "Threshold" or "Customer Distribution Requirement" see Accounting Policy - ClickBank. The latter being the first hoop they have in place for you to jump through if you might try to get around buying from your own link.
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    • Originally Posted by Fruzzlies View Post

      Your not supposed to but people do.
      Yea this is correct. A lot of folks do it and get away with it. In all honest, I'm not sure if it is against the TOS at all. At the end of the day, the product owner still gets his commission on the sale, and if you didn't buy it thought your own link you may not have bought it at all. I'd argue that if that was the case he would prefer you bought it through your own link than rather not at all. Just my thoughts though.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        We've had a lot of discussions about this question recently.

        This was the most recent one, a couple of weeks ago and as these things go, it wasn't a bad one at all.

        Originally Posted by RobinInTexas View Post

        Buying from your affiliate link is against Clickbank TOS.
        Sorry, but for the benefit of those people naive enough to accept "forum information" as factual, please excuse my mentioning that this statement is just plain factually wrong: it isn't against their TOS at all. This is easily verified, simply by reading the TOS (recommended).
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemeth
    I did two times and my account is still on + got my latest check.
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  • Profile picture of the author simonjwarner
    Best thing to do is find a bonus that is worth more then your share of the sale, just Google "that product" Bonus. Espically round Launch tome, you can get crazy bonus's as people want to move up the league tables.
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  • Profile picture of the author Whothar
    Even though Clickbank seemingly doesn't care (many people do it) it's not allowed according to Clickbank. If you're going to buy through your affiliate link, you're still going to gain the commissions for it but you aren't exactly helping the vendor (which is why I do not buy through my affiliate link).
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    • Profile picture of the author Emily Meeks
      Originally Posted by Whothar View Post

      Even though Clickbank seemingly doesn't care (many people do it) it's not allowed according to Clickbank. If you're going to buy through your affiliate link, you're still going to gain the commissions for it but you aren't exactly helping the vendor (which is why I do not buy through my affiliate link).
      This is true, though I must say the vendor would rather get SOME money for it than none at all - many products are also (sad to say) downloaded illegally. (I'm not going to open that can of worms beyond that though.)

      I'm too lazy to try and get around whatever security measures would be in place for that so I personally would pay full price.

      Legality of it may be questionable... as for moral consciousness, I let you make your own decisions.
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    • Profile picture of the author A P Geofrey
      Originally Posted by Whothar View Post

      Even though Clickbank seemingly doesn't care (many people do it) it's not allowed according to Clickbank. If you're going to buy through your affiliate link, you're still going to gain the commissions for it but you aren't exactly helping the vendor (which is why I do not buy through my affiliate link).
      Well I guess you are not killing him either. You are making a purchase, and that is a good thing for the seller no matter from where you buy it.
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    • Profile picture of the author eeeasyas12345
      Originally Posted by Whothar View Post

      Even though Clickbank seemingly doesn't care (many people do it) it's not allowed according to Clickbank. If you're going to buy through your affiliate link, you're still going to gain the commissions for it but you aren't exactly helping the vendor (which is why I do not buy through my affiliate link).
      How is that not helping the vendor? The vendor will still get his percentage whatever it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author SantiagoJ
    To be honest it's really up to your personal ethics - If you don't feel like it's wrong then go for it it's pretty unlikely that you'll get caught. Personally I would not feel right doing it.

    My $.02
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  • Profile picture of the author RockinBosslady
    I considered doing this, but haven't.
    Could someone contact the content author and ask? Afterall, if I like your product I might promote the heck out of it and you make more out of it letting me take discount. Just a thought.

    Or, maybe it's a cruddy product so no one wants to take the risk of being badmouthed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Palusko
    Can anyone point to the part of Clickbank's TOS that prohibits this? I could not find anything, other than opinions on this and other forums.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Palusko View Post

      Can anyone point to the part of Clickbank's TOS that prohibits this?
      No; they can't.

      That's because there isn't one to find.

      There's a pretty "full and frank exchange of views" (including some rather extraordinary ones ) on the subject here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nickolie0990
    I say screw it, save the money, buy it through your own affiliate link. Really, Clickbank doesn't care if you do, and I'm sure the vendor doesn't care. A sale is a sale. Do it...
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  • Wow strong bump, I made this thread months ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronijs
      Originally Posted by GoodnightSweetRatRace View Post

      Wow strong bump, I made this thread months ago.
      Yeah! I found this thread in Google

      all I found in clickbank is:

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      Customer Distribution Requirement


      ClickBank will withhold payment of any account balance until the following criteria is met:
      • Sales made with 5 or more different credit card numbers; and,
      • Sales made with two different payment methods (either Visa, MasterCard, PayPal or European Direct Debit(ELV)). Note: PayPal purchases do not count toward the minimum 5 different credit card numbers.
      This requirement is in place to help prevent Affiliates from abusing the ClickBank Affiliate program by using their accounts for the sole purpose of fraudulently collecting rebates and/or discounts on their own purchases.
      Once you have met the Customer Distribution Requirement, your account will begin issuing payments normally, in accordance with our Accounting Policy, beginning on the next payment issuing date.
      ______________________________________________

      I already have real sales and got check and money, but still dont understand, it is against tos or not to buy from own aff link.
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    Keep in mind that the reason the Gravity in clickbank is so high for most internet marketing products is not because they are so popular, but more because IMers buy IM products through their own links.

    Everyone does it, but no, you aren't meant to.
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  • Profile picture of the author AceOfShirts
    Have you already satisfied the 5 customer requirement of 5 different credit card purchases?

    If not, you won't get a commission check on your purchase anyway. After a certain amount of time they will slowly deduct $2.50 a week from your account until you qualify for a payout. If you don't qualify soon enough it will completely eat away your commission.

    thehypnoman had the best idea, search for the product with the best bonus.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shakakka
      Why not ask the vendor for a review copy? If you've got a website already built and ready to promote the product, he or she should be happy to give you one.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by dnsg View Post

      After a certain amount of time they will slowly deduct $2.50 a week from your account until you qualify for a payout. If you don't qualify soon enough it will completely eat away your commission.
      Well, something (not) like that, anyway.

      First, it's $1, not $2.50, in the first instance.

      Secondly, it's $1 per pay-period, not $1 per week.

      Thirdly, all you have to do to prevent it anyway is buy a $3 product through your own affiliate-link (or persuade a relative/friend to do so), and that gives you another 90 days, because the dormant account charges come into operation only on accounts which have not seen any sale at all in the previous 90 days, and they stop as soon as there's a sale.

      But apart from that, it was all true.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Tees
    I get paid through Clickbank for a particular affiliate program that I’m involved with. Every time I renew my membership, I get paid a commission into my Clickbank account, likewise every time someone I refer renews their membership I again receive a Clickbank commission and haven’t had any problems. Like most other CB affiliates, I have bought products (which I intended to sell) so that I could try them out before reviewing/ recommending them to others. I do this with mostly new products and products that are lesser known and not alot of other people are selling. Also, if the product is something a friend/family member is interested in I’ll have them buy it through my link and tell me what they think about it. I don’t really see anything wrong with this.
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  • Profile picture of the author AceOfShirts
    Another thing that usually comes up in these conversations that I haven't seen yet is the affiliate side.

    The owner still gets the same amount of money, clickbank still gets the same amount of money, but the affiliate that referred you is getting ripped off.

    If you learned of this product through an affiliate, either through email, PPC or a search that took you to their site, they deserve the commission. The affiliate spent time and money to advertise the product to you and deserves their commission.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jon Tees
      Originally Posted by dnsg View Post

      Another thing that usually comes up in these conversations that I haven't seen yet is the affiliate side.

      The owner still gets the same amount of money, clickbank still gets the same amount of money, but the affiliate that referred you is getting ripped off.

      If you learned of this product through an affiliate, either through email, PPC or a search that took you to their site, they deserve the commission. The affiliate spent time and money to advertise the product to you and deserves their commission.
      I couldn't agree more and make it a point to purchase products that I'm interested in through affiliates that introduce me to them. I know what it's like to be cheated out of a commission as it's happened to me many a time. I've never been introduced to a product by someone else only to buy it through my own link. The latter should be reserved only for instances where you discover the product on your own.
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  • Profile picture of the author badal4u
    They will hold your commission if you have only one sale from that link....See their CDR clauses, it explains fully
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  • Profile picture of the author poweraff
    High risk to get banned
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by ablehosting View Post

      High risk to get banned
      Actually no risk "to get banned", because it isn't doing anything disallowed. Apologies for the dissenting tone of voice, but this really is pure misinformation. Why do people persist in forming an opinion without even knowing the facts, and then on presenting that opinion here as if it were just a factual statement? This is exactly how these misguided myths get propagated. :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author ktshoppe
        I too had this doubt whether I can buy a clickbank product from my own affiliate link. But the maximum views seem to be on the safer side by not getting banned. It is better to have a cautious approach as getting banned is more money loss for a few cash gain.
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  • Profile picture of the author akyyyy
    have the rules changed recently? Can i have a friend by from my clickbank link? Will i get commission right away or would i have to wait for 5 sales from 5 different credit cards?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by akyyyy View Post

      have the rules changed recently?
      Some have, but I'm not aware of either the rules or the procedures/policies having changed on this point.

      Originally Posted by akyyyy View Post

      Can i have a friend by from my clickbank link?
      Yes, you can have anyone buy from your ClickBank hoplink. (As long as s/he's not intending to do a refund - if you haven't yet qualified under the CDR, that may well attract suspicion, of course.)

      Originally Posted by akyyyy View Post

      Will i get commission right away or would i have to wait for 5 sales from 5 different credit cards?
      When you've had 5 sales from 5 different credit-cards, the total commission from which exceeds your chosen payment threshold, you'll be paid on the next payday after the end of the pay-period in which the 5th sale was processed.

      All explained here ...
      Earning Commissions and Getting Paid
      Accounting Policy - ClickBank
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  • Profile picture of the author akyyyy
    thanks Alexa,

    what does CDR stand for?

    What happens with a Paypal payment, still have to get 5 different people?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by akyyyy View Post

      thanks Alexa,

      what does CDR stand for?
      Sorry ... "Customer Distribution Requirement" (5 different sales etc.)

      Details here (top paragraph of this link): https://www.clickbank.com/accounting.html#A15

      Originally Posted by akyyyy View Post

      What happens with a Paypal payment, still have to get 5 different people?
      PayPal purchases don't count toward the requirement for 5 different credit cards.

      Note: it's 5 different credit cards, not 5 different people: if someone (a friend/relative? ) makes two purchases with two different credit cards, that does count twice.
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  • Profile picture of the author aaaa33030
    I normally buy through my own clickbank affiliate link

    I use the same name and address to buy as that on my account profile

    If the product is not worth the cost I get a refund
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  • Profile picture of the author Magnet4Marketing
    I don't entertain buying ClickBank products through my own affiliate link. Since it's one of my main income sources I tend to get someone else such as a friend or family member to do it for me. That's probably your best option.
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  • Profile picture of the author Torreylee
    Bad, bad idea... Don't do it. If you just HAVE to do it, just play it safe and have a friend or family member buy it.
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  • Profile picture of the author anthony2
    Originally Posted by GoodnightSweetRatRace View Post

    Theres a piece of software I want to buy but its pretty expensive, I want buy through Aff. Link to obv save money.

    I found one discussion on this and it wasn't really cleared up.

    Some were saying it's fine, others saying its against Clickbanks T&C's.
    What software product were you looking to buy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by anthony2 View Post

      What software product were you looking to buy.
      Does it matter, now? It was a year ago, you know?!
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      • Profile picture of the author anthony2
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Does it matter, now? It was a year ago, you know?!
        OH S***T.....You are right...didn't even realize that.
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        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Does it matter, now? It was a year ago, you know?!
        OH S***T.....You are right...didn't even realize that.
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  • Profile picture of the author bodegazine
    I'm confused already.. I guess it's all up to you. If you want to risk your account..
    for some who have been in clickbank for a while and who have been buying through their own link then I guess it's okay.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by bodegazine View Post

      I'm confused already.. I guess it's all up to you. If you want to risk your account..
      for some who have been in clickbank for a while and who have been buying through their own link then I guess it's okay.
      The first time is always the hardest.
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    • Profile picture of the author raywarrior1978
      Originally Posted by Whothar View Post

      Even though Clickbank seemingly doesn't care (many people do it) it's not allowed according to Clickbank. If you're going to buy through your affiliate link, you're still going to gain the commissions for it but you aren't exactly helping the vendor (which is why I do not buy through my affiliate link).

      I have purchased through my own links for years and i never had a problem. It doesn't matter if you buy it though your own link, the vendor still gets it exact percentage profit and you get yours. It make no difference. How do you help the vendor out? If you buy through someone else link you will be given another affiliate and the vendor the same amount so it boils down to you at least getting a check for it. Look at it like a rebate check. The vendor still gets paid. So don't worry about that.
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  • Profile picture of the author FormerWageSlave
    Wow... people just don't want to read do they?
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    Who dug up this old fossil????
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffyman
    Originally Posted by GoodnightSweetRatRace View Post

    Theres a piece of software I want to buy but its pretty expensive, I want buy through Aff. Link to obv save money.

    I found one discussion on this and it wasn't really cleared up.

    Some were saying it's fine, others saying its against Clickbanks T&C's.
    ive did it before and I've never lost an account or not gotten checks... I like to buy the product I'm promoting before promoting something blindly not even knowing if it's of qaulity to my list
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  • Profile picture of the author Pauline Bennett
    I have considered doing this myself as I have not reached the threshold of 5 sales with 5 different credit cards etc but do not want to get my account closed so I am just waiting for one more sale so I can collect my first check.
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  • Profile picture of the author akyyyy
    ok so i will be getting a few friends to order what i need. There are about 2 products i want to go... and once i reach 5 total sales with credit card then i should receive the cheque? Also is there a price limit on the items that need to be ordered? couldnt i get 3 other friends to make cheap filler orders if needed?

    thanks
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  • If it's against ClickBank's T&C, it seems like no-one in Clickbank actually cares because it's done hundreds of times on a daily basis. I personally frown upon such practice, but if Clickbank doesn't enforce their own T&C themselves, what should anyone care then?
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  • Profile picture of the author akyyyy
    Just want to clear something up, regarding the 5 different credit cards. Will the following example work?

    Buying from my wifes credit card, House #1 (same house i live in)
    Buying from dads credit card, house # 2
    Buying from moms credit card, house #2
    Buying from friends credit card, house #3
    Buy from friend #2s credit card, house #4

    So all names and credit card #s are different, the only thing that would be same is the zip/postal codes.

    Would this be ok, im not using my own credit card so there shouldn't be any violations.

    Thx
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  • Profile picture of the author akyyyy
    oh and one more thing, will i see the order in my clickbank account the same day of a purchase or do they post only when 5 different credit cards are used?
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  • Profile picture of the author akyyyy
    I understand that they cannot catch you if a friend does it. but wanted to clarify if the 5 credit card requirement can be all different cards but 2x cc's in same household.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by akyyyy View Post

      wanted to clarify if the 5 credit card requirement can be all different cards but 2x cc's in same household.
      Yes; they can. They can even be multiple credit-cards belonging to the same person. The requirement is for five different credit-cards, not for five different customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author DarthMaulrats
    I'm glad to see this thread and the responses in it. I unintentionally did that once. I figured it was against the TOS, but didn't really know how to correct it, so I didn't. So far, nobody's said anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mate
    If it's an IM product than do a search on the interent where people also offer bonuses if you buy the product trough their affiliate link. You might want to do that instead and get more out of your money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gail.Tennessee
    Jeffyman, Since people aren't listening to Alexa and reading the TOS, I want to say that you are the best answer I've seen here so far. It seems that people are defending a moral issue. (whether a referring affiliate gets paid) However, what you are doing is also valuable. I know it's not always the case, but I like to think that I am purchasing from someone that knows the product well enough that I can trust their opinion about it. What you are doing is important because it addresses the issues of credibility and relationship and list building. I have unsubscribed from plenty of affiliates that have endorsed some pretty lame products. If the affiliate has gained my trust, I am happy to pay full price and I want them to get paid. I am a real estate broker. Property buyers expect me to know more about what they are purchasing than they do. That's why they come to me and allow me to get paid. I think this question of whether we can or cannot purchase from our own account would be moot if we knew and trusted who we were purchasing from.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gust
    I just read through their entire TOS at CB. There's nothing there that says it is against their TOS to buy through your own affiliate link.

    If you're not comfortable, don't do it. It (still, a year later) doesn't appear to be against CB TOS.
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  • Profile picture of the author boykie33
    Okay, as a relatively 'newbie' marketeer I was unsure of this so stayed away. Now after going over the thread, I have decided to bite the bullet and go ahead and buy through my link.

    If I need to review a product I figure there's no difference to the merchant who gets the commission. After all, it's a sale that might not have happened in the first place (I am allowed a bit of self justification ain't I ;-))
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  • Profile picture of the author boykie33
    ...and besides, with my growing skillbase, if it's a good product then he'll or she'll benefit from the avalanche of sales I'll generate!
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  • Profile picture of the author AdamBaum
    How can people not feel right about this? WHAT THE F***!?!?!?!?!
    Clickbank products are software, the vendor earns +85%, which is why you are being paid 50%. I do when I form time to time find valuable clickbank offers. And it has nothing to do with personal ethics, in fact- I would say you are stupid if you didn't.
    I find it ironic when internet marketers not only leave money on the table, they are in fact throwing them out of the window...
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  • Profile picture of the author egeus1
    I bought product from my affiliate link to try it but it seems Clickbank did not care about it. Commission was added though.
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  • Profile picture of the author OnlineDJ
    Not a good thing to do.....D.J.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucildoll
    Re: Buying Click Bank product through own Affiliate Link

    If this is a violation of CB laws what is the penalty? So if an affiliate is promoting the product and have need of it how should he/she go about buying it? What if members of the said household uses the same credit card to purchase from CB not knowing it is a violation buying from own affiliate link?
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  • 1) It's NOT against Clickbank's T&C. Read them through: you will not find any entry anywhere against such practice. So, basically they don't care.

    2) It's freaking gay. Affiliate links should be used as a promotional tool, not as a self-granting discount coupon. I myself (as a vendor) ban every buyer/affiliate doing this.
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