Will Your "Business" Be Around In 2 Years?

by Dave Rodman Banned
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I've been going back through some old IM stuff that I have had for awhile. Two of them really stuck out and were kind of related.

One was Rich Schefren's presentation at Stompernet where he talked about the myth of a lifestyle business. Instead, you have to build the business first, and then the lifestyle will follow. He goes onto say that the internet is very much like the Infomercial business in it's infancy. And that there used to be infomercial conferences just like IM conferences...now, they are all gone because in order to do an infomercial, you need a million bucks.

And just today, I was listening to an old Corey Rudl and Dan Kennedy interview where they talk about offline/online advertising. Kennedy again brings up the infomercial business and said that in the early days, people made millions with a cheap camcorder and floodlight. There was no back-end and no up-sells..they simply made money by selling a $100 product. And they only made money cause it was cheap to get the message out there.

I don't know about your markets, but when I started 5 years ago, I had some competition that had been there for a few years. We all had pretty crappy websites. But as time went on, their website stayed the same, while mine improved. I sought out cheaper products, I built the email list, I added upsells, I formed JV's, I became a wholesaler, etc. And eventually, those other companies faded away.....most of the biggest players in my niche were not there 5 years ago. They were crushed by people that came along with more sophisticated business models.

If you're been paying attention, you would've noticed it with lower barrier to entry online businesses. Ebay is a good example. So is "Writing". How many Writers post here trying to make the case for more money? The smarter writers have either offered value add services (submission, SEO, Social Media, etc) or moved up the value chain.

So, it's not all doom/gloom, but this is definitely something that newbies to pay attention to. If I was starting over, here's what I would do.

Remember, competition gets GREATER over time. I had a buddy that used to be an arbitrage trader. He'd trade mini-S&P in different markets and capitalize on discrepancies. He made good money for a few years, then abruptly was put out of business when the opportunity was gone.

Here's what I would suggest..

--Build your business around a valuable product/service-- There's no getting around this part. HONESTLY look at your site. Don't just "put together a free report"...give GREAT value. The websites I read over and over and refer people to are the ones that have tremendous value. It probably seems more difficult to do this, but it's way easier in the long-run.

---Build equity in your business--Email lists, affiliates, licensing or wholesale, mailing lists, supplier relationships, testing data, analytics, process maps, etc. Those are all assets for your company. Either now or when you sell.

---Tweak--This can mean a lot of things. Tweak your ads, improve the process in your company, email marketing, etc. As time goes on, your business should become a more fine-tuned machine.

---Track--I know average order sizes, % of people that buy my upsells, how many people buy again, how much a mailing list prospect is worth, etc. Knowing that allows you to CRUSH your competition that is too lazy to figure that out.

---Go Offline--I know in this forum, "Offline" typically means selling IM to local business. But you should consider it, if possible, to your own business. Sometimes the simplest little thing have a profound impact on your business. For years I wondered why people put those little signs all over the place when you drive. Then finally I wanted my lawn aerated for cheap and remembered a sign I saw, so I drove back there to look at it. It gave me a lightbulb moment and I started printing the signs up and hired someone to put them all over during my peak season. UNREAL how much traffic/sales that drove in. I have more examples, but that's just a few.

---Build in a viral component--This sometimes can be hard, but if you can you want to do this. I sell a product that is somewhat hard to find in traditional retail outlets. And it's something that MOST people want. So the product is naturally viral. So it was important for me to just SELL MORE and BRAND my products. That alone made it easy for when people were looking to purchase.


So, in closing. I don't really expect that many people who are throwing up affiliate sites by the dozen to really take note. Because you kinda have to hear the message at the right time in order to take it to heart. But I would encourage you to step back and listen to some "Big Picture" thinkers (kennedy, schefren, kiyosaki, gerber) to get perspective. Because TRUST ME...it might not seem like it at the time, but it's FAR easier to make money with ONE business than multiple. (Don't read that to mean you can't have multiple).
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  • Excellent post. Two years ago I never would have thought I'd still have a business online, let alone a leading business in my niche.

    You're right, the top competitors weren't there when I started, and many of the old guys got knocked down a notch or dissappeared thanks to myself and others like me. The era of solo businesses which do not interract through JV's or listing building is over.
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      • Originally Posted by ncmedia View Post

        I disagree with this part sorry. You DO NOT NEED one single email to remain in business or to make great money. In time you can also view that same gold mine list as a liability. Once you step out of the mmo niche you see there's 101 ways to create revenue and monetize data/eyeballs/leads/value/products/etc.

        Of course you can make 'more' with jv's and email lists but don't let it fool you for a second that you 'need' anything but your brain to make good money, even solo, no jv, no list, many do it daily and say NO to 90% of the 'help' or ventures that cross their desk...

        Other than that I do agree with the rest great post.
        Lists are possibly the easiest way to build a brand and increase subscription numbers. Works for all niches and creates a way for people to get to know your brand without having to visit your site.

        Do you NEED it? Nope. Would I create a site without one? Fat chance!

        Regarding JV's, no you don't need them, but as someone who is starting out in the IM niche, JV's are a godsend. I include things such as guest posts as JV's and they have done wonders for growing my brand new IM site.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Rodman
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        Originally Posted by ncmedia View Post

        I disagree with this part sorry. You DO NOT NEED one single email to remain in business or to make great money. In time you can also view that same gold mine list as a liability. Once you step out of the mmo niche you see there's 101 ways to create revenue and monetize data/eyeballs/leads/value/products/etc.

        Of course you can make 'more' with jv's and email lists but don't let it fool you for a second that you 'need' anything but your brain to make good money, even solo, no jv, no list, many do it daily and say NO to 90% of the 'help' or ventures that cross their desk...

        Other than that I do agree with the rest great post.
        Yeah, you definitely DON'T need to do any one thing. But it definitely is a case where seemingly small things make a big difference in a business. I've made a lot of small decisions that, at the time, didn't seem like a big deal. One recently was the decision to enter into the wholesale market in a niche. Before I always opted to stay out of it because the margins were low. But now I'm realizing the value.

        For one, I have a constant line of communication with competitors (both old and new). I can offer their products, they can offer mine. I know more about their business just because they talk to me. For two, I am now involved in their business. They increase sales, I increase sales. Third, my products are branded...so even though they facilitate the sales, they have my name on them.

        And that's resulted in a lot of extra business.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Very nice, Dave, very nice...

      I especially like your points about keeping things simple and going offline if it makes sense.

      Many years ago, back in the AOL days, one of my cohorts on the marketing group sold refurbished Macs. He started on his own campus and expanded from there.

      His whole marketing plan had two components, one online and one offline.

      The online component was placing classified ads in groups he knew college kids hung out, offering a single used computer for an attractive price.

      The offline component was very similar. He placed little hand-written index cards on bulletin boards around campus, offering to sell a used computer.

      Later, he expanded by hiring people on other campuses to post the same handwritten index cards and the same online classified ads.

      He made a fortune...
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Rodman
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        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Very nice, Dave, very nice...

        I especially like your points about keeping things simple and going offline if it makes sense.

        Many years ago, back in the AOL days, one of my cohorts on the marketing group sold refurbished Macs. He started on his own campus and expanded from there.

        His whole marketing plan had two components, one online and one offline.

        The online component was placing classified ads in groups he knew college kids hung out, offering a single used computer for an attractive price.

        The offline component was very similar. He placed little hand-written index cards on bulletin boards around campus, offering to sell a used computer.

        Later, he expanded by hiring people on other campuses to post the same handwritten index cards and the same online classified ads.

        He made a fortune...
        Ha. That's great. And yeah, I think when I started online I definitely just thought of offline marketing (like the signs) as kinda old hat and ineffective. But one thing I discovered really quickly is that you're MUCH LESS LIKELY to get knocked off OFFLINE as opposed to online. And you can operate in stealth for a long time. When I do something online, my competitors basically copy it with a few weeks.
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