Should I Use Clickbank or Use My Own Affiliate System?

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I am deciding how I can better recruit affiliates on board selling my products. See, I have 2 types of products that requires affiliates to sell them. One is short reports (producing at the rate of 2 a month) and another one is my membership sites.

I am currently using DAP which allows me to have my own affiliate system in place but I have yet to recruit any affiliates selling for me. I am thinking if Clickbank is a better idea since they are the expert in affiliate management and will help me recruit the affiliates I need or is it simply because I need to improve my affiliate recruitment skills?

Anyone with affiliate recruitment experience could share your thoughts on this?

Since I have multiple products, I don't see the need to open multiple clickbank accounts just for it.

Another option I have will be Paydotcom.com but it seem they are not very popular among affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    Hello,

    most professional affiliates prefer instant payment, so using PayPal would be ideal. There is software which can automate the product delivery and affiliate program for you called Rapid Action Profits(I am not sure what DAP does in relation to affiliate program functionality) which allows you to list your products on www.rapbank.com which has a very active community, especially in the IM niche.

    As for Clickbank, don't make the mistake of assuming that if you list your product with them that affiliates will magically materialize out of nowhere promoting your product making money rain from the sky.

    You will have to actively recruit them, the same with any other affiliate system.

    Clickbank is also notorious for their high processing fee(average 9%) and rather dubious refund policy and handling.

    My 2 cents

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    I'm not a product vendor, but I can tell you that as an affiliate (and with exception to Amazon) I always shy away from promoting products/services for which the vendor handles their own affiliate sale tracking and payments.

    For me, promoting through a well-established, "independent", middle-man affiliate network (CJ, TradeDoubler, AffiliateWindow, or - in the case of e-products - Clickbank) instills more confidence within me.

    Another benefit to using a third-party service for affiliate management/tracking/payments is that you can list your products in their "marketplace" (in the case of Clickbank), or whatever their equivalent is, and recruit extra affiliates that way as they browse through the inventory, without as much direct promotion of your affiliate programme being necessary on your part.
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  • Profile picture of the author ravijayagopal
    A couple of random points...

    (Disclosure: I'm the founder/co-developer of DAP)

    * The best way to start recruiting affiliates, is to make every member an automatic affiliate, and set your commissions high enough so that they have an incentive to promote your product. After all, the ones who can promote your product with the most passion and conviction, are your (happy) members. So that's why DAP's affiliate program is very powerful and can go viral, because each member is instantly made an affiliate, and you can even send them their custom affiliate link right in the welcome email itself.

    * It is understandable that some people will trust a third-party affiliate program like CB more than your in-house affiliate program, but even that model has flaws. If you use CB, for example, to sell IM-related products, then you can pretty much expect that everyone's going to be stealing your affiliate's commissions, and will end up using their own aff nick to give themselves a nice little discount on their purchase, and the actual affiliate will get screwed.

    CB works great in non-IM niches where people are not savvy enough to hijack the hoplink, but it works very poorly in the IM-niche. Which means, as affiliates see that they're not getting much commissions, they'll stop promoting your product slowly, over a period of time. Even though you're probably making sales in the beginning, because the visitors are hijacking the hoplinks and stealing the commissions, you'll see that this is not a self-sustaining model, as over a period of time, people will simply stop promoting your product, because they're not seeing much conversions.

    You could of course use a system like e-junkie, which allows "approval" of affiliates, but then this means that your members have to sign up separately for your e-J aff program, and get approval. And this is bad especially in the not-very-savvy, non-IM niches, where they go "Huh??" if you even say "Affiliate" and ask them to go to an entirely new web site, sign up over there, get approval, get links from there, etc. And then you won't be able to embed those custom e-J links within your mailing program.

    But if you use a program like DAP, then you have everything integrated into one place. Even in the non-IM niche, you can simply send them their custom affiliate link as part of the autoresponder or broadcast email, and tell the non-savvy folks - "forward this special link to your friends and family, and we'll give you a special cash gift if they buy from us". You don't even have to say the word "Affiliate".

    So, every model has its pros and cons.

    The hardest thing is to get people to promote for you. And no one is going to do this without you convincing them to do it for you.

    That's where other persuasion tactics come in.

    But that's a whole 'nother post for 'nother day :-)

    Cheers!

    - Ravi Jayagopal
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    • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
      Originally Posted by ravijayagopal View Post

      A couple of random points...

      (Disclosure: I'm the founder/co-developer of DAP)



      If you use CB, for example, to sell IM-related products, then you can pretty much expect that everyone's going to be stealing your affiliate's commissions, and will end up using their own aff nick to give themselves a nice little discount on their purchase, and the actual affiliate will get screwed.

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      There are ways to stop this, Clickbank have a white list system in place where you can specify who can earn commission. Only affiliates on the list will get commissions . I used it on one of my products recently and it worked very well.
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      • Profile picture of the author gerstel22
        Something to consider is to use both Clickbank and your current system. The Clickbank marketplace will bring you new affiliates but has higher fees, while your current system might have less fees but you do not get the exposure of Clickbank's marketplace.
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        • Profile picture of the author ravijayagopal
          Great point!

          In fact one of the really cool features (even if I say so myself :-) of DAP, is that it allows you to sell the same product using multiple payment processors, simultaneously (from the same web site or different web sites - doesn't matter).

          So you could technically create an entirely new web site (or sales page) just for CB affiliates, where the buy-button is CB-based.

          Then a separate web site for e-J users with e-J buttons...

          Separate site for CJ users using, say, Paypal.

          And then on top of that, you can also run your own in-house affiliate program using DAP.

          So what this means, is that you can now cater to multiple affiliate networks, all from one site, using DAP as your membership platform. So you can build a huge army of affiliates from various networks, all promoting your product.

          Just some food for thought :-)

          Cheers!

          - Ravi Jayagopal

          Originally Posted by gerstel22 View Post

          Something to consider is to use both Clickbank and your current system. The Clickbank marketplace will bring you new affiliates but has higher fees, while your current system might have less fees but you do not get the exposure of Clickbank's marketplace.
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          • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
            Originally Posted by ravijayagopal View Post

            Separate site for CJ users using, say, Paypal.

            And then on top of that, you can also run your own in-house affiliate program using DAP.

            So what this means, is that you can now cater to multiple affiliate networks, all from one site, using DAP as your membership platform. So you can build a huge army of affiliates from various networks, all promoting your product.
            Hi Ravi,

            Does DAP allow affiliates to be paid instantly via PayPal
            if PayPal is used as the processor?

            Dedicated to mutual success,

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            • Profile picture of the author fated82
              Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

              Hi Ravi,

              Does DAP allow affiliates to be paid instantly via PayPal
              if PayPal is used as the processor?

              Dedicated to mutual success,

              Shaun
              Yes, I am in for the idea too. Currently I can only proccess payment after 30 days and that might deter those who are interested in being my affiliate.

              If DAP could do an instant payment to affiliate and still issue a charge back (similar to CB) when custmer ask for refund, that would be cool!...
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      • Profile picture of the author ravijayagopal
        Very cool - will check this out!

        - Ravi

        Originally Posted by M Thompson View Post

        There are ways to stop this, Clickbank have a white list system in place where you can specify who can earn commission. Only affiliates on the list will get commissions . I used it on one of my products recently and it worked very well.
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  • Profile picture of the author officer_iron
    I agree with DireStraits in that I'm more likely to promote something through a trusted site such as CB. I'm not saying that all (or even most) in house affiliate systems aren't up to par, I just would rather have an established site or team tending to an affiliate program so I know that there is support in place.
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  • Profile picture of the author spearce000
    When I had my Photoshop site I had my own affiliate programme. Never again! Frankly, it was just too much hassle: setting up the software, approving the affiliates, keeping track of the refunds, sending out the payments, the list went on and on. I know CB takes a fee for doing all of this for you, but it's money well spent IMHO. CB makes it very easy to recruit new affiliates, too.
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