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[Jeremy Kelsall]

At this point, probably 30% is organic. I expect that to grow though as more and more pages are indexed

Originally Posted by coreytucker

Thanks Jermey. Just curious, how much organic traffic do you think your getting though? Thats what interest me more than anything

I dont expect an exact answer...just estimation. Have a good day.

[coreytucker]

ok thanks. I will give this a try

[freudianslip27]

That's awesome,

Yes, duplicate content is a myth in my opinion too. It's all about promotion in my opinion. Links are so, so important. The great thing about articles you've submitted to directories is that they already belong to you, why not use them!

Matt

[richfit]

I don't how "long term" you will see this traffic. The question for you is:

How many times have you submitted it to OnlyWire & SocialMarker????

That's an easy way to get traffic but doesn't last very long when using duplicate content. Over time Google figures out what you're up to.

Remember, Google is constantly filtering Quality or in my terms Super High Actionable Content.

Bryan

[Jeremy Kelsall]

I only submit each page once

If you do keyword research correctly, it's not hard to rank with 10+ pages and a couple decent links.

I expect to see this traffic for a long time and if it slows down, I'll just show it a little more love

Originally Posted by richfit

I don't how "long term" you will see this traffic. The question for you is:

How many times have you submitted it to OnlyWire & SocialMarker????

That's an easy way to get traffic but doesn't last very long when using duplicate content. Over time Google figures out what you're up to.

Remember, Google is constantly filtering Quality or in my terms Super High Actionable Content.

Bryan

[Alibubble]

Just wanted to say thanks for the tips Jeremy. You always seem to have great advice.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Thanks! Honestly, this is nothing new though

There have been many people that didn't think that a duplicate content penalty existed and I just wanted to test it for myself.

On a larger Scale another warrior Tommy Gadget made 10 blogs with the same content and didn't get hit with a penalty either so, there must be something to it

Originally Posted by Alibubble

Just wanted to say thanks for the tips Jeremy. You always seem to have great advice.

[Alibubble]

I have been trying to get targeted traffic to an optin page lately.

Do you think it would be wise to set up a blog and just post articles to it and lets say put an optin form on each blog post?

Also, the whole blog and ping thing. I have always had difficulty getting traffic to sites just by posting and pinging. Even with some link juice I have never gotten the kind of traffic that you got.

Don't know what I have been doing wrong...

[prestige00]

Hi Jeremy,

I sent you a pm.

[Chiayee]

Jeremy:

I am wondering if you can still do this with the new term stated at EZA:
"Agree to limit the number of articles reprinted to no greater than taking 25 articles from our site per calendar year per unique domain that you own. In addition, for domain owners of many domains, you may not reprint more than 250 articles per year (10 sites x 25 articles reprinted per domain)."

Terms of Service For Publishers Who Wish To Reprint Any Content From EzineArticles.com

PLease advice, thanks!

[Jeremy Kelsall]

They are my articles so, I imagine I can do whatever I want with them

Originally Posted by Chiayee

Jeremy:

I am wondering if you can still do this with the new term stated at EZA:
"Agree to limit the number of articles reprinted to no greater than taking 25 articles from our site per calendar year per unique domain that you own. In addition, for domain owners of many domains, you may not reprint more than 250 articles per year (10 sites x 25 articles reprinted per domain)."

Terms of Service For Publishers Who Wish To Reprint Any Content From EzineArticles.com

PLease advice, thanks!

[Chiayee]

Hey Jeremy: thanks for the quick reply ! Appreciate it!

[Jeremy Kelsall]

No problem...

I use my own articles because I like to re-purpose my own content as much as I possibly can. Nothing like getting paid for the same content 2 or 3 places, right? lol

Originally Posted by Chiayee

Hey Jeremy: thanks for the quick reply ! Appreciate it!

[Mark-Dickenson]

wow...what a great thread!

Thanks Jeremy, Zerofill, and everyone else who contributed to this thread...I have learned a ton of things that I can put to use right away

Quick question I just thought of...so lets say if the niche you are talking about is weight loss, you put the banner code at the top of each post...so am I to assume that you are promoting just the one product or are you mixing it up?

I thought I read it was just one product but wanted to clarify. The banner per post was really helpful advice for me

Thanks again for a money post

-Mark

[zerofill]

Originally Posted by Chiayee

Jeremy:

I am wondering if you can still do this with the new term stated at EZA:
"Agree to limit the number of articles reprinted to no greater than taking 25 articles from our site per calendar year per unique domain that you own. In addition, for domain owners of many domains, you may not reprint more than 250 articles per year (10 sites x 25 articles reprinted per domain)."

Terms of Service For Publishers Who Wish To Reprint Any Content From EzineArticles.com

PLease advice, thanks!

I have to say though...This has to be one of the most idiotic TOS additions I have ever seen on a site.

1) How could you possibly control that or monitor it? I am not saying go against the addition they made to the TOS but are you telling everyone that you are going to spend more time and effort policing this than actually reviewing articles?

2) Adding this to their TOS basically proves the method works. They are losing Adsense commissions. Because you are ranking higher with your content on your own site then you are with it on their site in the end.

So basically the addition to the TOS is to protect their advertisement commissions...Which I can not blame them. However that revenue isn't produced by their content. It is produced by article marketers...I think they need to go back and rethink what they are saying. If they mean alternate content that isn't yours...then fine.

If they mean you can't reprint more than 25 of your own articles per website then that is just morally wrong in so many ways in my book.

[Peggy Baron]

Originally Posted by Kelly Verge

Kind of makes one wonder...

What about using nothing but others' content from EZA (leaving the bios intact)? Would the traffic leak from the bios be significant?

Kelly, I believe EZA has a limit to how many of their articles you can use. I seem to remember that number is 25, but you'd have to check...

Peggy

[coolWebsites]

Hi Jeremy,

What is your website address? I'd like to see, thanks!

Thanks!

Johnathan

[Jeremy Kelsall]

The particular niche that I did this one is - is top secret....shhhhh

However, I can do another one and maybe even do up a free report to distribute to anyone that is interested.

This would be a great way especially for beginners to get their feet wet.

Jeremy

[srom]

Hey Jeremy,

Do you teach this concept in your coaching program?

Shawn

[Ian Jackson]

Hi Jeremy

Just in case you missed it - did you see my PM from yesterday? Thanks

[magentawave]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

At this point, probably 30% is organic. I expect that to grow though as more and more pages are indexed

I must have missed something while reading this but if only 30% of your traffic is organic, then where is the other 70% coming from?

Thank you
Steve

[magentawave]

Originally Posted by Steve Porcaro

Jeremy great post, I have been doing the same for a few days now and I think what you are looking for below is called caffeinated content....pulls youtube video, yahoo answers, and articles

Regarding using Caffeinated Content to fetch content for our sites...

I would like to control when the content Caffeinated Content is posted on my site. So instead of having millions of pages of instant content. I would like to be able to gather the content it sends me and then set it up to post automatically for days or weeks in the future. I know I can do with WP, but can I do that with Caffeinated Content?

Thanks
Steve

[magentawave]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

I actually have that plugin. The only thing I'm trying to avoid is having other peoples resource boxes on my sites so, right now I am sticking to niches that I already have a lot of content for. Although, I may use the plugin in conjunction with CPA and Adsense offers.

A couple more questions please...

1) But can't you edit the content that Caffeinated Content brings you and remove the resource boxes, etc.?

2) And if you do remove those resource boxes (or anything else), aren't you running into copyright issues by putting someone elses content on your sites without their permission?

Thanks
Steve

[absolutelee]

This is totally cool. I've only recently come to the same conclusion. I have over 500 articles on EZA, which now can be milked for much more profit! Thanks for the results of your experiment!

[gail1367]

Hi Jeremy,

I have a question. I have a hosting account where i can only have one domain hosted.(i can't afford to upgrade yet). I was wondering if this would work if i used either subdomains or put each wp blog in its own folder. eg. http:wwwyoursite.com/niche/ I know how to do this. I was wondering if this would work and which would be better for a subdomain or folder.

Thanks
Gail

[lisawood]

That's awesome! Congrats, and thanks for sharing

[Rebtl]

First let me say, many thanks for this great thread! I have never seen so much great info on duplicate content.

This is my first post at WF (I have been a DP'er for over a year so I'm not a total noob)

In your step by step instruction post you mention that you use some type of submission form that takes people to your CB product.

Originally Posted by zerofill

7) On the actual post pages there is a a form where people enter in something and that takes them to a clickbank product (They have committed subconsciously to taking some kind of action)

Could you explain more about this system and how it works?

Thanks again

Rebtl

[Christie Love]

Jeremy, you never cease to amaze me. I've always been hesitant about duplicating content. This is good to know.

[Learnanew]

Wow, how many articles did you write? :O Sounds like a vast amount.

[utproducts]

Originally Posted by James Schramko

I've been saying this for so long now.Post valuable content to blogs first.

I would love to see Steven W post all his articles to some blogs with proper set-up and watch the results from that....

I want to quote this, because I have seen James mention this as one of the biggest mistakes that article marketers make numerous times now. Thanks for this fantastic advice.

EDIT - And I have said that the duplicate content rule only applies to content under the same domain. People always seem to be confused about this. It is your content, you can do what you want with it. Google does not own you or your business.

[Emmanuel Betinis]

Originally Posted by zerofill

...Because you are ranking higher with your content on your own site then you are with it on their site in the end.

What makes you say this?

I would think eZine Articles Directory's version of my article would rank higher in the SERPs than the version hosted on my site, wouldn't you? UNLESS:

a.) The Page Rank of the article is lower on EZA than my website's version is.

and/or

b.) The Alexa Rank of EZA is worse than my website's is (this one is doubtful ).

and/or

c.) The article's on-page factors are not as optimized in EZA as they are on my website's version.

and/or

d.) The article's off-page factors are not as optimized in EZA as they are on my website's version.

Right?

[magentawave]

Hi Jeremy,

A couple questions please...

1) You have been saying that if you have two sites with the same content that there will be no duplicate content penalty -- as long as you don't link the sites together. Okay cool. But what if you have an affiliate site that sells XYZ Widgets and the XYZ Widget company allows you to use their own content (from their great newsletter let us say) as content on your site. Would linking back to the XYZ Widget company with a cloaked affiliate link trigger the duplicate content penalty?

2) You said that someone you know built ten sites with the same content and all those sites are doing well. Besides the domain name and maybe the site theme/template, did he change the content at all, or is the content EXACTLY the same? Did he put the ten sites on 10 different cpanels?

3) Except for when someone wants to rewrite someone elses content to make it their own, doesn't this make all those article spinners obsolete?

Thanks
Steve

[Emmanuel Betinis]

Originally Posted by magentawave

1) You have been saying that if you have two sites with the same content that there will be no duplicate content penalty -- as long as you don't link the sites together. Okay cool. But what if you have an affiliate site that sells XYZ Widgets and the XYZ Widget company allows you to use their own content (from their great newsletter let us say) as content on your site. Would linking back to the XYZ Widget company with a cloaked affiliate link trigger the duplicate content penalty?

That's a good question that does naturally arise, doesn't it? I'll be posting a video of my question on SHOCKING: Is it just a ploy or not?! - this will clarify/verify we're on the same page AND crack the code to this confusion.

Originally Posted by magentawave

3) Except for when someone wants to rewrite someone elses content to make it their own, doesn't this make all those article spinners obsolete?

That's EXACTLY what I was saying...and thought the very exact same thing...that's why I started the thread SHOCKING: Is it just a ploy or not?! ...and I'll be posting a video soon there within the next couple hours to to CLARIFY.

[Adustul]

great post as usually jeremy

here's a quick question, I'm assuming your blog is completely fresh and not being linked to from Ezine from those or other articles?

[Steve Crooks]

What a great story Jeremy, I have seen for myself that duplicate content will get indexed. You can't beat original content in my opinion but it really is a fallacy when people say you should avoid duplicate content at all costs.

[zerofill]

Jeremy has been out of town a few days...relative was ill...
Should be back today or tonight...

But yeah...the blogs were brand new...

And yep...duplicate content is not so much a myth as it is misunderstood...

[jhongren]

Hi Jeremy and Donald,

Excellent post!

I am sure you can be named the Niche Experts

Cheers,
John

[Girish]

Jeremy, how did you monetize the traffic? Affiliate offers or CPA offers?

[markdsullivan]

wow awesome

[AbdulAzim]

Originally Posted by qkz283

EDIT - And I have said that the duplicate content rule only applies to content under the same domain. People always seem to be confused about this. It is your content, you can do what you want with it. Google does not own you or your business.

Cool!Awesome words.Thanks

Azim

[Jeremy Kelsall]

I monetized with affiliate offers, but since then have done more with Adsense as well. I monetize it in a way that fits the niche.

Originally Posted by Girish

Jeremy, how did you monetize the traffic? Affiliate offers or CPA offers?

[Jason Zalesky]

I find this very interesting because I did the same thing awhile back with my article package I have. I have thousands of PLR articles and I remember on another thread about automatic wordpress posting software and using just plain PLR. So I gave it a shot and about two months later I came back to the 3 blogs I setup and I was averaging about 500 to 1000 visitors a day. On top of that I made about 1500 in clickbank sales. So I believe the whole duplicate content thing is not as bad as everyone states it to be.

I also ended up selling my blogs for a good profit. So about 4 hours of work on my part and it turned me up about 3k. Not to shabby I would say. Anyway point is that its worth trying if you have free time and you have nothing to lose in doing it only something to gain. Either way you can just sell the blog after a couple of months of good traffic.

Jason

[AbdulAzim]

Originally Posted by Jason Zalesky

I find this very interesting because I did the same thing awhile back with my article package I have. I have thousands of PLR articles and I remember on another thread about automatic wordpress posting software and using just plain PLR. So I gave it a shot and about two months later I came back to the 3 blogs I setup and I was averaging about 500 to 1000 visitors a day. On top of that I made about 1500 in clickbank sales. So I believe the whole duplicate content thing is not as bad as everyone states it to be.

I also ended up selling my blogs for a good profit. So about 4 hours of work on my part and it turned me up about 3k. Not to shabby I would say. Anyway point is that its worth trying if you have free time and you have nothing to lose in doing it only something to gain. Either way you can just sell the blog after a couple of months of good traffic.

Jason

500 to 1000 visitors a day with PLR articles?You must be making good income
from that sites.Yeah,1500 in clickbank sales in just two month.

Azim

That is really awesome.

[Tortue]

Kudos to Jeremy for posting his test! It gives me a great idea for an alternate test I am going to try.

What a great way to start off the new year - new blogs with recycled content for no money in a ridiculously short amount of time!

[newbie@CPA]

Cool! Thanks for the post.

[Jason Zalesky]

Originally Posted by AbdulAzim

500 to 1000 visitors a day with PLR articles?You must be making good income
from that sites.Yeah,1500 in clickbank sales in just two month.

Azim

That is really awesome.

I was promoting the acne niche. Its a hot item since most teens and 20 somethings go through episodes and want to find a quick cure. Some of the treatments for bad cases can get expensive so people look for other ways.

This is just one niche. If you truley want to learn how to make some easy money then everyone should not pass up on Jermeys 30 coaching course. Has step by step videos teaching and showing how you can easily make 1k plus a month just using article marketing. Cool thing is that he starts from scratch and makes money proving it can be done. So I would say its a must buy for someone starting off in internet marketing and looking for some easy cash.

Jason

[magentawave]

Originally Posted by Jason Zalesky

I was promoting the acne niche. Its a hot item since most teens and 20 somethings go through episodes and want to find a quick cure. Some of the treatments for bad cases can get expensive so people look for other ways.

This is just one niche. If you truley want to learn how to make some easy money then everyone should not pass up on Jermeys 30 coaching course. Has step by step videos teaching and showing how you can easily make 1k plus a month just using article marketing. Cool thing is that he starts from scratch and makes money proving it can be done. So I would say its a must buy for someone starting off in internet marketing and looking for some easy cash.

Jason

Good stuff!

1) Do you remember how many pages of content you had up at the time you sold the acne blogs?

2) How often did you set up the posting of the content? One page per day or every other day??

3) Did you put the content up as pages or posts?

4) Why sell and asset when its chugging along and making money?

Thanks
Steve

[magentawave]

Two questions here please...

1) It seems to be a controversial issue, but does anyone have an opinion based on experience on whether to do a site with ONLY affiliate links... or ONLY Adsense...or affiliate links AND Adsense?

2) My experience is that most properly constructed sites get a boost from search engines when new, but will a site with duplicate content continue doing well a year or two later? Do those sites have legs?

Steve

[jhongren]

1) It seems to be a controversial issue, but does anyone have an opinion based on experience on whether to do a site with ONLY affiliate links... or ONLY Adsense...or affiliate links AND Adsense?

Hi Steve,

What you can do is to offer affiliate links first.
Based on experience, affiliate marketing
offers more commission compared to the
money you can earn from adsense.

But adsense is another source
of income for other readers who
are seeking other info beside the
affiliate products you are promoting.

2) My experience is that most properly constructed sites get a boost from search engines when new, but will a site with duplicate content continue doing well a year or two later? Do those sites have legs?

I think Jeremy is a better person to
answer this. I remember he has
mentioned he did duplicate content.

All the best Steve!

Cheers,
John

[Emmanuel Betinis]

Originally Posted by magentawave

...if you have two sites with the same content that there will be no duplicate content penalty -- as long as you don't link the sites together.

Are we sure about this?

Again, we go back to the news sites, etc. having the same info that are linked to each other and they're doing just fine in the SERPs. Right?


How sure are we about the "...as long as the sites aren't linked together" rule...doesn't sound right/fair to me. Anyone?