Releasing 2 identical Ebooks, on 1)Clickbank 2)RAP bank

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Posted: 13 years ago 19 replies

INTERNET MARKETING

If you hav 1 ebook, you want to sell, for your affiliates to sell on

1) clickbank, (affiliates get commissions per sales)
2) RAP bank (affilates get 100% commission)

and you hav 2 domains

www.MyProduct-Clickbank.com
www.MyProduct-RapBank.com

but sales pages, ebook, affiliate page will be all the same.

so i have increased (I might say doubled) my chances of affilaites finding my product and promoting it.

is this a good approach? - any disadvantages of them ?

{Using 2 seperate domains, but the same sales page, and same affiliate tools etc}

or should i keep to one?

does anybody use both methods, for 1 ebook?

#1clickbank #2rap #bank #ebooks #identical #releasing

Paul Myers 13 years ago

Possible pitfall...

If affiliates get a bigger commission through RAPbank than Clickbank, your CB affiliates my revolt when they find out. Unless, of course, you make a point of telling them. Tricky, since you can't always know in advance that they're going to promote the product.

Maybe made easier by putting the notice on your affiliate tools page.

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- entry 13 years ago
  
  Cheers,
  
  How about I make both products the same price, on both platforms.
  
  Have you done this method for your products Paul?
  
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  Paul Myers 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by entry
  
  Have you done this method for your products Paul?
  
  Nope. Considered it, but there was some other issue that was an even bigger concern. I don't remember what that was offhand.
  
  The one I mentioned would be enough to stop me, I think.
  
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  Tom B Banned 13 years ago
  
  I believe there is an addon to use Clickbank with RAP.
  
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  entry 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap
  
  I believe there is an addon to use Clickbank with RAP.
  
  yea? can you show a link to it, or more info on it,
  
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  Tom B Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by entry
  
  yea? can you show a link to it, or more info on it,
  
  Google "rapid action profits clickbank" and you will find it.
  
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  VanessaB 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap
  
  Google "rapid action profits clickbank" and you will find it.
  
  Thank you Thomas. I've been looking for something like this.
  
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- Kevin AKA Hubcap 13 years ago
  
  Or you could change the cover and title of one of the books. If you wanted you could also hire someone to do a rewrite.
  
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  entry 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kevin AKA Hubcap
  
  Or you could change the cover and title of one of the books. If you wanted you could also hire someone to do a rewrite.
  
  so i can disguise the fact they are identical? lol
  
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  Kevin AKA Hubcap 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by entry
  
  so i can disguise the fact they are identical? lol
  
  Hire someone to re-write one and they won't be identical.
  
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  E. Brian Rose 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kevin AKA Hubcap
  
  Or you could change the cover and title of one of the books. If you wanted you could also hire someone to do a rewrite.
  
  Agreed. Change the title at least.
  
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Sid Hale 13 years ago
Hi,

Originally Posted by entry

so i have increased (I might say doubled) my chances of affiliates finding my product and promoting it.

Doubled your chances?

Is affiliate recruitment like a crapshoot, or the lotto, for you?

It's fine to list your products in an affiliate network, but if you depend on affiliates for :
- extended reach into your market
- increased buzz at product launch
- targeted traffic to your sales pages, and/or
- ongoing promotion for special sales, new products, etc.
- then you should be more proactive when it comes to affiliate recruitment.

Don't just leave it to chance.
You need your OWN affiliate sales force (not just membership in a network), so that you can communicate with them directly every time you create a new opportunity for both of you to make more money!

Otherwise, when you create your next product, you'll have to start all over again!

List your product on an affiliate network, and you'll have to keep your fingers crossed that a few affiliate marketers see the potential of your offer, and then will promote it.

Wouldn't it be easier to just have your product listed in your affiliate center (automatically), and send a broadcast mail to your affiliates about the new sales opportunity you've created for them? Give them a link to your affiliate tools page, so they can get started right away.

Of course, you can continue recruiting new affiliates, too. That just increases the size of your sales force, for the next time you have a special discount coupon, or a new product for them to promote.

But then... where/how would you recruit those affiliates?

Hmmmmm

Have you ever found a site with more affiliate marketers gathered in one place, than right here in the Warriors Forum? Be creative.

Consider posting in the Warrior Joint Ventures forum.

An offering on the Warrior Special Offers Forum can also be a great way to find new affiliates (i.e. give them the opportunity to sign up from your download page), and your new affiliates will also have the benefit of actually owning the product that you're asking them to recommend.

Again, an affiliate network is a good way supplement your own recruiting efforts - but why leave it to chance?
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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by entry

any disadvantages of them ?

Huge disadvantages, I'm afraid.

Serious, professional Clickbank affiliates are typically not willing to promote a product which has an alternative sales page elsewhere. That's just about the biggest "leak" you can have, and will disqualify your product from consideration for exactly the small group of affiliates you most want to attract. (There'll be many Clickbank affiliates not concerned about this, or not even aware of it, too, of course, but you may find that those include a lot who are among the 90% of affiliates who make 10% of the sales, rather than among the 10% of affiliates who make 90% of the sales. That's my impression, anyway).

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Serious, professional Clickbank affiliates are typically not willing to promote a product which has an alternative sales page elsewhere. That's just about the biggest "leak" you can have, and will disqualify your product from consideration for exactly the small group of affiliates you most want to attract.

Alexa, Great advice. How do you find the serious professional Clickbank affiliates? Do you look at your CB sales stats?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by archivefive

Alexa, Great advice. How do you find the serious professional Clickbank affiliates? Do you look at your CB sales stats?

I'm not a vendor at all; just an affiliate.

It would strike me, if becoming a vendor there, that (apart from a high quality product which lives up the the claims made for it, of course), most of the criteria I'd be concerned about, to try to attract serious affiliates mysef, would be to do with the sales page, really. If it helps anyone, my own little checklist of criteria for selecting products to promote, as an affiliate, is set out in this post.

I strongly suspect that many vendors who "go wrong" make the (perhaps understandable but very simple) mistake of trying to attract "as many affiliates as possible" which leads (perhaps inevitably?) to their effectively catering for the 90% of affiliates who typically make 10% of the affiliate-referred sales at the expense of missing out on the other 10% of affiliates who typically make 90% of the affiliate-referred sales.

These two broad groups of affiliates (oversimplifying a little, for sure, by trying to divide them all into "two groups"!) certainly have very different assessment/product-selection criteria.

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Sid Hale

13 years ago

Exactly Alexa,

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I strongly suspect that many vendors who "go wrong" make the (perhaps understandable but very simple) mistake of trying to attract "as many affiliates as possible" which leads (perhaps inevitably?) to their effectively catering for the 90% of affiliates who typically make 10% of the affiliate-referred sales at the expense of missing out on the other 10% of affiliates who typically make 90% of the affiliate-referred sales.

That's why listing with one of the affiliate networks (vs. recruiting your own "captive" group of affiliates) is such a crapshoot - and why a pool of affiliates from an affiliate network may be a reasonable secondary source of affiliates... a place to advertise for affiliates.

The merchant should still recruit those affiliates into their own affiliate sales force in order to maximize his/her communication with those affiliates, and to nurture their relationship. Then the affiliate can be FIRST to find out about new product launches from the merchant, or any of a number of other special promotional opportunities.

Otherwise, not only does the merchant have to compete with other merchants in the affiliate network, but affiliates may find out about a new/special promotion after hordes of his competition has already uploaded articles, written blog posts, and/or mailed their lists.

A better, more direct relationship between the affiliate and the merchant will lead to more benefit/profits for both parties.

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entry

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Sid Hale

Exactly Alexa,

That's why listing with one of the affiliate networks (vs. recruiting your own "captive" group of affiliates) is such a crapshoot - and why a pool of affiliates from an affiliate network may be a reasonable secondary source of affiliates... a place to advertise for affiliates.

The merchant should still recruit those affiliates into their own affiliate sales force in order to maximize his/her communication with those affiliates, and to nurture their relationship. Then the affiliate can be FIRST to find out about new product launches from the merchant, or any of a number of other special promotional opportunities.

Otherwise, not only does the merchant have to compete with other merchants in the affiliate network, but affiliates may find out about a new/special promotion after hordes of his competition has already uploaded articles, written blog posts, and/or mailed their lists.

A better, more direct relationship between the affiliate and the merchant will lead to more benefit/profits for both parties.

I will be using RAP anyway as the one affiliate. I was just wondering about using 2.

Nice advice though guys, cheers.

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Lloyd Buchinski

13 years ago

Originally Posted by entry

1) clickbank, (affiliates get commissions per sales)
2) RAP bank (affilates get 100% commission)

Just in case there is some kind of misunderstanding here, RAP affiliates do not necessarily get 100% of sales. It can be a lot of different percents, including 10%. But it is an advantage for RAP bank to be able to offer 100%. CB doesn't.

But my first big break was with a 100% RAP product

Happy about that.

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entry

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Lloyd Buchinski

Happy about that.

how did you drive sales?

or did you let the affiliates do it all under the 100% commmission?

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