Do you Make money from ADSENSE or Adspace selling - NEED To read This?

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For the last couple of weeks the Google text adspace on my websites and any website I visited were displaying ads for totally unrelated stuff. What I found out as the reason should be of big concern for any content publisher that sells adspace or anyone making income from adsense or other networks.

It appears that my wireless ISP provider which services several thousand customers in the Austin area had purchased an ad engine box from a new startup in Austin called ""Myturfads" This box basicly strips out or overlays their own local advertising on any pages which have advertising spots identified as the traffic goes through their box. Not able to paste a true link to company due to my post numbers - Worth looking at though.

My ISP assured me all ISPs were moving towards this new technology and that company says its been tested in court to be legal. I responded that What is really the question here is who owns the content delivered to the person on the other end of the web search. I give Google permission to place ads on my pages via an agreement. An agreement where Google compensates me based on the effectiveness of those ads. They rent space on my billboard so to speak. A legal contract, space for ad money. What My turf ads is doing is akin to ripping a paid billboard out of the ground(another persons property) and sticking theirs in the ground for free.

I searched for Myturf ads in Google and links about them are almost nonexistent. Their about us page does show it to be a well funded start up. Their site does not give a lot of specifics but says that it replaces remnant ads with local advertising. What I saw was taht all Google ads at the local level were getting replaced. It does not state what a remnant ad is and I cant see that Google would view their ads as remnant ads at any level.

I also learned from the ISP owners employee that the owner was getting a a substantial cut on ad revenue from them.

I would like to make sure that Google is aware of this companies business model - any suggestions on who to email?
It seems also that content publishers as a group also could put a stop to this since their legal agreements to provide space to Google are being circumvented by this companies business model.

I am not a big publisher and am only getting started but this seems extremely wrong to me. Just think if every major city and regional ISP gets on board this technology millions of page views and impressions would be confiscated and never shown that could have resulted in income for Google and the publisher. If this trend is allowed it could definately make Adsense or even Adspace selling on any site a lost cause for monetization purposes.


Dan Hicks
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  • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
    ya .... thats legal - LOL

    this is akin to a sql injection attack of your website. Unless you agreed to this utter nonsense via their TOS - their going to get their azzes sued off.

    New ISP - vote with wallet - real simple one there ....
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary King
    Interesting...

    You're asking whom to contact at Google - not sure that this is the right answer, but here's a security section of their contacts - if their ads are being replaced, I'm sure they would pass it from the security team to the right folks.

    Security Issues
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Hicks
    Thanks for the advice I will try to send the security team at Google a memo and see if it gets passed on appropriately. It seems to me that if this company is making a hardware device and selling it into IP's all over the country that replace Googles ADs that they would want to be aware of their business model.

    Unfortunately I have limited options for ISPs. I live in the middle of 100 acres about 40 miles from nearest big city - What I have Line of Sight Ethernet from 80 ft tower(Good Speeds), Broadband Works OK but Slower, or Directv(YUK No Way Been There Done That). With complaining at least the ISP has given me a seperate IP and routed me out of the box so everything is looking alright for me.

    My bigger concern is as a content publisher and whether this new start-up gets traction with this new technology. If it is being deployed widely it could have a significant impact on everyone.

    Your relevant ads and publisher codes get stripped out and theirs put in. On private networks, wireless ISPs and according to their customer list regional ISPs on a national level. Also if you care about your content you would not like the ads you see -- totally unrelated ads.

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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Originally Posted by Daniel Hicks View Post

      Thanks for the advice I will try to send the security team at Google a memo and see if it gets passed on appropriately. It seems to me that if this company is making a hardware device and selling it into IP's all over the country that replace Googles ADs that they would want to be aware of their business model.

      Unfortunately I have limited options for ISPs. I live in the middle of 100 acres about 40 miles from nearest big city - What I have Line of Sight Ethernet from 80 ft tower(Good Speeds), Broadband Works OK but Slower, or Directv(YUK No Way Been There Done That). With complaining at least the ISP has given me a seperate IP and routed me out of the box so everything is looking alright for me.

      My bigger concern is as a content publisher and whether this new start-up gets traction with this new technology. If it is being deployed widely it could have a significant impact on everyone.

      Your relevant ads and publisher codes get stripped out and theirs put in. On private networks, wireless ISPs and according to their customer list regional ISPs on a national level. Also if you care about your content you would not like the ads you see -- totally unrelated ads.

      Dan Hicks
      You cant interecept someones content - yank their content out and insert your own - just because you are an isp.

      ... unless of course you've agreed to let them do this as part of their TOS - which you dont address. did you?

      This will never fly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Hicks
      4MoreReferrals, Even if ISPs have something buried in their TOS that allows them to insert targeted advertising to subscribers it seems this would be a seperate agreement with the subscriber. This should not give them the right to use the adspace designated by a content publisher in a seperate agreement between the content publisher and Google or other Ad service. They dont have rights to the content on other peoples pages.


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