MRR Products as WSOs!?!?

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I recently bought a WSO and it happened to be an MRR product from a few years ago. I didn't ask for a refund or anything like that because the information was good, but back when I was a newbie, and I came by this product, I didn't buy it.


Now I am not mad or anything and I will not disclose who sold this WSO, but aren't WSOs supposed to be unique???

All I am saying is, if I took all the MRR and PLR stuff on my hard drive broke them down and packaged them into 15 WSOs and sell it off, I won't feel accomplished, at all. I would feel as if I am cheating my fellow warriors.

What say do you guys have on this?
#mrr #products #wsos
  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    It's not supposed to be done. Against forum TOS n' stuff.

    Report it and it'll be pulled.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Unless the seller was the original creator of the product.

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  • Profile picture of the author Shazia Mirza
    KK jasonmorgan ty.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shazia Mirza
    Originally Posted by Tina

    Unless the seller was the original creator of the product.

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    Thanks for the heads up. It will probably be hard to look into it, but I will definitely!
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    Unless the seller was the original creator of the product.
    True, but unlikely.

    I'm sure it's somebody thinking nobody would notice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Baker
    Unless it has been extensively modified, which to me it doesn't sound like it has, report it and the mods will look into it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by mikescos View Post

      Unless it has been extensively modified
      I don't think that would cut it. The idea of the WSO section is to offer fellow members a unique discount/benefit for your own product. Reworked versions of someone else's product (whether MRR/PLR etc... or not) are not acceptable and go completely against the point of that forum.

      They're supposed to be 'Special' (hence warrior SPECIAL offers)

      Selling rehashed stuff is just ripping off your fellow members and devaluing the forum.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Baker
        Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

        I don't think that would cut it. The idea of the WSO section is to offer fellow members a unique discount/benefit for your own product. Reworked versions of someone else's product (whether MRR/PLR etc... or not) are not acceptable and go completely against the point of that forum.

        They're supposed to be 'Special' (hence warrior SPECIAL offers)

        Selling rehashed stuff is just ripping off your fellow members and devaluing the forum.
        The question of what exactly is a WSO has been debated many times. The things I have learned are this:

        A WSO price must be lower than the price of the same product that you may be selling elsewhere.

        You can sell a PLR/MRR/etc product as a WSO if it has been extensively re-written so that it no longer looks or feels like the original. Obviously you can't buy a PLR/MRR product and then go ahead and sell it as is as a WSO.

        If Paul or Ken or any of the other Moderators want to correct me on this, I'm sure they will. But that is my understanding.
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  • Profile picture of the author gerstel22
    Yes the rule is very specific on this. It has to be your own product, so modifying it won't cut it, because otherwise we would have endless debates on how much modification is good enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Baker
    The rule is specific in that is must be your own product, but the rule does not define how much of a PLR/MRR product can be used to create your own. If you are modifying a PLR/MRR product extensively where a reader will not know that the information has been taken from a PLR/MRR product, then the product is now a new product created by you. It is the same as taking multiple articles from article directories on the same subject and re-writing them into a whole new product which we see done here all the time.

    There is a lot of debate over re-hashed material and I'm not going to go over that here except to say it is being use not just on other website where you see Information products for sale, but here in this very forum as WSO's.

    If you want to debate what amount of a PLR/MRR product you can use to create your own product for a WSO, then I suggest you contact Paul Myers.

    By the way, the last paragraph was not just directed to you gerstel22 but everyone reading this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Ya MRR should not be used as a WSO.

    However, if it's a product that the creator sold as MRR and now he/she's the one selling that same product as a WSO I think that's ok. If it's a few years old, though, may not be that great, things change quickly in this market though certain principles will remain the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    So the rule, or the truth is... if you're gonna use PLR, modify it enough so nobody notices.

    Yes the rule is very specific on this. It has to be your own product, so modifying it won't cut it, because otherwise we would have endless debates on how much modification is good enough.
    The debate has already happened. I'm sure it will happen again. A lot of words and little action.

    The bottom line... if you're doin' it, don't get caught.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      So the rule, or the truth is... if you're gonna use PLR, modify it enough so nobody notices.


      The debate has already happened. I'm sure it will happen again. A lot of words and little action.

      The bottom line... if you're doin' it, don't get caught.

      I don't understand why this is so complicated????

      If you're not creating your own product and are intending to modify an existing one (to whatever level) then it shouldn't be a WSO.

      That's not difficult to understand is it? If you're creating it - that's ok, if you're changing an existing one - it's not.

      It's not even about where the product came from or what rights you have to it - it's much simpler than that. It's about this forum and it's members.

      The whole point of the WSO section is to give product creators the opportunity to give the members a special break on their new product that you can't get anywhere else. It's not supposed to be a cheap ad section for any old crap or rehashed information.

      It's changed a lot over the years and you often see newbies coming here telling others "hey that's interesting information you just shared for free - you should make a WSO". People are desperate for money and are looking for any way to make it happen.

      There are a lot of people who come here and see WSOs and then stop trying to make money anywhere else. They just start thinking "what could I sell as a WSO" and that is where these problems start.

      The real problem is people looking at this community and thinking how can they get money from its members. That's why rehashing PLR stuff starts to make sense to them - their main concern is how to get money from desperate members. They don't care if the information is new or already available for free in the forum - they just want 'something' to sell.

      This is the opposite of the whole point of the WSO section - that's why you're seeing more and more extreme sales copy from desperate people who know they're not offering anything new.

      There are hundreds of ways to sell info products online - you don't need to screw up this forums quality by treating it like shooting hungry fish in a barrel. In fact - the better you treat the members, the more you're likely to get back.

      So if you're thinking of running a WSO - ask yourself why. If you're starting with someone else's product then you're probably already going against the TOS or at least the spirit of the forum.
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