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Old 02-03-2011, 04:01 PM   #1
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Isn't it time there was a sticky in this forum, shaking people out of this downward dream spiral that is ruining people's lives, killing the industry and wasting everyone's time?

I am, of course, talking about the false expectation that you can land on a forum like this, and expect a genuine, applicable answer to the following question:

"I have no money, no contacts, no skills, no time. How can I make fast money today?"

Well let's see...

You can't.

Unless you're talking about selling stuff on eBay.

I'm sorry to break the bubble folks, but unless you have at least one of the above, then you either need to GET one or more of them, or you need to get a job.

I'm not saying you can't start a profitable online business pretty quickly, but it won't happen overnight if you don't have any money, time, skills, contacts.

You have to acquire these assets. It's like trying to take a road trip without fuel, or wheels.

I know it's a hard pill to swallow for the desperate, but it's the truth.

And let me save you wasting another year, and risk coming back here asking the same question in twelve months...

Start creating a plan, and start working on it.

Don't have skills? Learn them.

Don't have money? Save up.

Don't have time? Sell your Xbox (and use the money to fund your first basic website.)

Once you have these assets, make it part of your plan to build more assets, such as:

- traffic
- partnerships
- products
- email lists

If all this sounds too dull, and too much like hard work, then there's another popular forum where you can go and get rich overnight, by breaking laws, ruining lives, and detaching yourself of any moral compass for as long as it takes.

This is a marketing forum, not a work from home mummies forum. This is the place to learn marketing and business tactics, not fly by night envelope stuffing bull****, or quick cash methods that don't work as well as you're promised, and don't give you any kind of future security.

Time to get a grip. Just make sure you're grabbing the rope that is attached to a firm building... not the one that's made of pasta and tied around a three legged table.

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But how can I make money now?
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So.....you're trying to tell me I can't make $1,000 by tomorrow without any work???? Dang you Nick.

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Even something as simple as selling stuff on Ebay takes some of the things listed.

No money = no listing fees or no inventory. Drop shippers can be rough to find, easier to work with the wholesaler direct first before working out a drop shipping contract.

No time = no time to set up the listings. If you sell the same stuff over and over you can work from a template. If you sell one-ofs you will be making a new listing each time.

No skill = not too much of an issue here, though having done plenty of "one-of" listings myself, being able to do them fast can be a skill.

Lots of truth in your post Nick.

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I know someone who just started Internet Marketing before Christmas and he's been sucked into all sorts. Everytime I see him he's discovered the latest secret and has bought THE best software or course.

So far I think he's parted with over 20K and nothing to show for it ... not even a website!

Personally I think he's just doing his apprenticeship (a more expensive one with personal coaching), like I did and like many other newbies will do ... they'll buy into the crap, false hopes and promises.

Before realising it is ultimately business fundamentals ... providing a service, selling something people need, learning to follow-up and sell to them again.

Getting traffic, working on conversion and creating customers.

The downside is that many people don't make it through the apprenticeship and quit believing it all to be a hoax.

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Of course there are the uber-intelligent here who see that sooner ... shame I wasn't one of them

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Isn't it time there was a sticky in this forum, shaking people out of this downward dream spiral that is ruining people's lives, killing the industry and wasting everyone's time?

I am, of course, talking about the false expectation that you can land on a forum like this, and expect a genuine, applicable answer to the following question:

"I have no money, no contacts, no skills, no time. How can I make fast money today?"

Well let's see...

You can't.

Unless you're talking about selling stuff on eBay.

I'm sorry to break the bubble folks, but unless you have at least one of the above, then you either need to GET one or more of them, or you need to get a job.

I'm not saying you can't start a profitable online business pretty quickly, but it won't happen overnight if you don't have any money, time, skills, contacts.

You have to acquire these assets. It's like trying to take a road trip without fuel, or wheels.

I know it's a hard pill to swallow for the desperate, but it's the truth.

And let me save you wasting another year, and risk coming back here asking the same question in twelve months...

Start creating a plan, and start working on it.

Don't have skills? Learn them.

Don't have money? Save up.

Don't have time? Sell your Xbox (and use the money to fund your first basic website.)

Once you have these assets, make it part of your plan to build more assets, such as:

- traffic
- partnerships
- products
- email lists

If all this sounds too dull, and too much like hard work, then there's another popular forum where you can go and get rich overnight, by breaking laws, ruining lives, and detaching yourself of any moral compass for as long as it takes.

This is a marketing forum, not a work from home mummies forum. This is the place to learn marketing and business tactics, not fly by night envelope stuffing bull****, or quick cash methods that don't work as well as you're promised, and don't give you any kind of future security.

Time to get a grip. Just make sure you're grabbing the rope that is attached to a firm building... not the one that's made of pasta and tied around a three legged table.
If they have no skills then they're probably in good shape and attractive, so they should be able to model. lol
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Old 02-03-2011, 05:43 PM   #7
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Rob a bank. You'll have to get a bank loan to be able to buy the gun and the getaway car, but at least you won't have to pay that loan back, especially if you rob the bank you borrowed it from

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So.....you're trying to tell me I can't make $1,000 by tomorrow without any work???? Dang you Nick.
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Even something as simple as selling stuff on Ebay takes some of the things listed.

No money = no listing fees or no inventory. Drop shippers can be rough to find, easier to work with the wholesaler direct first before working out a drop shipping contract.

No time = no time to set up the listings. If you sell the same stuff over and over you can work from a template. If you sell one-ofs you will be making a new listing each time.

No skill = not too much of an issue here, though having done plenty of "one-of" listings myself, being able to do them fast can be a skill.

Lots of truth in your post Nick.
Good point!

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I know someone who just started Internet Marketing before Christmas and he's been sucked into all sorts. Everytime I see him he's discovered the latest secret and has bought THE best software or course.

So far I think he's parted with over 20K and nothing to show for it ... not even a website!

Personally I think he's just doing his apprenticeship (a more expensive one with personal coaching), like I did and like many other newbies will do ... they'll buy into the crap, false hopes and promises.

Before realising it is ultimately business fundamentals ... providing a service, selling something people need, learning to follow-up and sell to them again.

Getting traffic, working on conversion and creating customers.

The downside is that many people don't make it through the apprenticeship and quit believing it all to be a hoax.

Alan

Of course there are the uber-intelligent here who see that sooner ... shame I wasn't one of them
This is true. I often think that if you haven't spent at least two or three grand learning the ropes, then you 'aint even in the running.

Unless you're a freakin' marketing genius with killer instinct and unnaturally lucky.

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I agree with you Nick, but as long as people create eBooks/products with headlines like "make $100k in your spare time online with no investment or effort", there will always be a sucker out there.

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I agree with you Nick, but as long as people create eBooks/products with headlines like "make $100k in your spare time online with no investment or effort", there will always be a sucker out there.
Ethics aside, if they have no time, how will they get a product together?
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NO TIME....then you will never be able to make anything if you have no time for work.

Maybe this is why you have NO MONEY and NO SKILL,

Money is NOT a problem!
Skill is NOT a problem!

If you have a brain to learn then you can solve the problem to the 2 above, but if you have NO TIME. You haven't got a chance!

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Time can be replaced with money. Of course you have to have some time to invest in the creation of a system and the training of people who work that system. Just as you can spend your time to create that system to save your money. You could even pay to have someone create the sytem, as crazy as that sounds, and eliminate the time factor further.

Skills can be learned, or bought, at a cost of time and/or money.

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Well, which one? And does the car have to be 2 doors or 4 doors? This is hard. You need skills for this. Can you just explain adsense instead?
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Yes, I agree of what you have said in this thread. Thank you for encouraging me to rally work for my business.
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This is true! Thanks for sharing! For myself, I have none of the above yet as well. But I'm looking to build them slowly but surely over here at WF. So far I've begun writing online to earn and save some money which I can use to invest in another IM monetization methond. Probably CPA or blogging..

I'm a Professional Writer. I also do high-quality spins. I won't stop until you get the quality that you deserve. PM me or Email me at juliusglopez@gmail.com for samples of my work or for orders. I look forward to long-term business relationships with you.
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Don't have time? Sell your Xbox (and use the money to fund your first basic website.)

Don't make me sell my Xbox bro.

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You can always sell your belongings on craigslist too, and ebay...

But I don't like the attitude that you need to basically stop dreaming and thinking that you can't make money online

The second you stop believing that one day you will make a lot of money online is the second you fail.

If you don't believe you can do it, whats the point? You might as well work for a company that will give you your weekly paycheck.

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I agree that we might need some kind of "sticky" to help new people manage their expectations. Sarah is right, though---we MUST not stop dreaming, either. That's where so much of the energy that can keep you moving forward will come from. It's also what generates some of your best insights and builds toward your ultimate unique contribution.

There's really not a contradiction between these two apparent extremes. The right middle ground is to cherish dreams in the background of your mind while using most of your available time to cultivate one or more of the assets the OP spoke of. I don't know about you all but I learn best by doing--which means that I need some sort of "vehicle" that helps me move along on that middle ground. There's NOTHING like having something become truly natural---that's how we are able to take something like driving for granted as an instrument to achieve our other goals--rather than as a project unto itself.

For me the years I've spend promoting ONE affliliate program through an unusual offline method has given me the grounding I need. When you get really familar with a single process, your mind naturally moves outward to related ideas--new programs, products and processes that are now within your comprehension. Without some kind of grounding, you just don't have any point of reference to help you make sense of all the "noise" out there.

One of the posters in this thread suggested CPA programs or blogging as a good place to get that kind of grounding. I agree--use it as a "paid" internship that may allow you to build into more complex ambitions. (It may be low-paid but at least you are not PAYING to learn ---as in college or as with the fellow paying out 20,000 pounds since December)

Jason Fladlien suggests a high ratio of action to learning---at least one to one. He's right because I think that forces you to integrate ideas and knowledge as you go along---to continually "reground". Don't be discouraged by the apparent endless amount of knowledge that you wish you had a complete grasp of. So much of the "noise" is created by people who are marketing themselves or their product. Since that's also US to some extent we have to view it with a certain tolerance. But also discrimination--which only experience can give you. I read a post by a VERY experienced WF veteran---a productive product creator and marketer himself---who said that even he gets confused by the all the great new things that clamor for his attention. His solution--he usually only buys on recommendations from those he knows and trusts.

My advice: Don't ever stop dreaming ! Just make it the "icing on the cake". The cake is learning and mastering one tool or skill at at time and getting plenty of practice in its application.
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But I don't like the attitude that you need to basically stop dreaming and thinking that you can't make money online

The second you stop believing that one day you will make a lot of money online is the second you fail.

If you don't believe you can do it, whats the point? You might as well work for a company that will give you your weekly paycheck.
That's very true except there have been a lot of people coming to this forum looking for the "magic answer or bullet" that will solve all of their problems without having to have to work, or have any money or put in the time, or whatever it may be.

They are dreaming the WRONG way and think that something should be just handed to them. They treat IM as a second rate thing that should be easy and not take any intestinal fortitude or money.
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I think this is what's wrong with alot of the younger generation today. Many of them have been given everything their whole life and all of a sudden they are grown up and expect that everything is still going to be given to them and they won't or don't have to work for it.

There are many parents out there that have bought their kids up with the attitude they are going to give their kids a better life then what they had. The problem here that I see in my day to day life is that parents didn't teach their children any work ethics or they didn't teach them to cook or clean or look after another. The parents seem to have forgotten what they learnt when they were young.

Guiding children and preparing them to be hard working, adults seems to have been thrown out the door.

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I think this is what's wrong with alot of the younger generation today. Many of them have been given everything their whole life and all of a sudden they are grown up and expect that everything is still going to be given to them and they won't or don't have to work for it.

There are many parents out there that have bought their kids up with the attitude they are going to give their kids a better life then what they had. The problem here that I see in my day to day life is that parents didn't teach their children any work ethics or they didn't teach them to cook or clean or look after another. The parents seem to have forgotten what they learnt when they were young.

Guiding children and preparing them to be hard working, adults seems to have been thrown out the door.
Very true. Once you get past my generation things really hit the crapper. I got the work ethics from my parents, though they don't seem to follow me into my online ventures. I have held a job for nearly 10 years now, as grueling as it may be, simply to keep the family afloat. My IM profits have given us the little extra we need to keep chuggin along.

Your statement is what I have noticed when we hire someone that is younger than me at work. Lazy as snot. Think they are the best. Then wonders why everyone laughs when they talk about how vital they are to the company.

True story on the last one, had a kid who couldn't show up on time to save his life do this. What made things worse is that he felt like everything should be forgiven if he shows up for work early once a month and late the other 29 days.

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And all those IM gurus say that anyone can make money instantly... darn it!

But seriously, everything takes its time... nobody learned to ride a bicycle without someone's assistance and/or training wheels instantly. Good practice makes perfect.

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Don't fall for the hype from the so-called guru's. They suck people in to buy their hype. People soon find out, that to make money it takes work and effort, consistency and patience.

It's a hard lesson to learn that clever marketing and some specially chosen words can convince even an educated mind to part with their dollars to buy something that promises quick riches for little or no work. Users are then sad to find out it just doesn't happen like it's promised. Der, they saw you coming!

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NO TIME....then you will never be able to make anything if you have no time for work.

Maybe this is why you have NO MONEY and NO SKILL,

Money is NOT a problem!
Skill is NOT a problem!

If you have a brain to learn then you can solve the problem to the 2 above, but if you have NO TIME. You haven't got a chance!
I completely agree. Having no money, no skills and no resources is fine, as long as you have the determination to learn and implement something new that will make you money. We all have to start somewhere, and it'd be unrealistic to assume that one already possesses all the characteristics and attributes needed to make money in IM.

BUT the most egregious one is definitely having no time. If you have nothing, and don't even have time to learn and implement something new that will make you money, you have absolutely no business even asking about how to make money online.

You might as well just buy a lottery ticket and hope to strike it big there, because you're essentially hoping to win the lottery! Even getting into the lottery requires money to buy a ticket, so what you're really asking for is a free handout.

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Well .... you could start a boy-band or girl-band as appropriate, then write up your experience in 15 pages and sell it as a WSO?????

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[QUOTE=Nick Brighton;3302558]Rob a bank. You'll have to get a bank loan to be able to buy the gun and the getaway car, but at least you won't have to pay that loan back, especially if you rob the bank you borrowed it from

If you are going to rob a bank you might as well steal the gun and steal the car and make sure there is enough petrol in the tank. No money is invloved taking this route if you steal everything you need.

Having a plan or a method is essential and the brains to carry it out.

Of course you can have luck on your side which can cost you nothing. There is a certain amount of serendipity involved but if you have not got any time, then you have no time to pick up someone's lost coin off the pavement and go and buy a lottery ticket. With a little bit (or maybe a lot) of luck you can win the lottery and that would take no skill at all. You could ask someone to fill in the numbers if you cannot write.

Anyone completely out of knowledge, luck, money, skills, and time I think has no chance! What else is there left to have? Just dreams, wishes and hopes which will never come to anything unless you can take some sort of action.

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I only have skills and I'm making money.

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I won't mention any names (not cool) but today I got an email from one of
my coaching students who said he was dropping out.

His reason..."I expected some magic pixie dust."

And this is in spite of the fact that I clearly stated on the sales page for
the coaching class that I was going to work them into the ground.

Nick, this is human nature and neither you or I or anybody on this planet is
going to change it.

All a sticky is going to do is waste valuable space on a forum that deserves
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The original post was pretty straight forward, however it was also true. People want to make money fast, and there is nothing wrong with that, but it usually doesn't happen.

I know that 13 months ago I quit my job to work from home, thinking that within six months I'd be rolling in money. Did I make some money? Yes, but not very much at first. What I did accomplish is this. I learned a heck of a lot, paid my dues, worked 8 hours or more a day without pay, and kept going.

Now Things are good, I'm making some money and realize that building a business takes a lot of time. There is a learning curve we all have to go through.

The only people that can make $30,000 in 48 hours are guru's that already have a giant mailing list in place, and a new product or joint venture to blast out. If you have 10,000 people on your mailing list you can make a lot of money with just one mailing.

So, instead of complaining, we all need to build our list, or work what other business plan we have. We will all get there, it just may be on a different highway.

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Isn't it time there was a sticky in this forum, shaking people out of this downward dream spiral that is ruining people's lives, killing the industry and wasting everyone's time?

I am, of course, talking about the false expectation that you can land on a forum like this, and expect a genuine, applicable answer to the following question:

"I have no money, no contacts, no skills, no time. How can I make fast money today?"

Well let's see...

You can't.

Unless you're talking about selling stuff on eBay.

I'm sorry to break the bubble folks, but unless you have at least one of the above, then you either need to GET one or more of them, or you need to get a job.

I'm not saying you can't start a profitable online business pretty quickly, but it won't happen overnight if you don't have any money, time, skills, contacts.

You have to acquire these assets. It's like trying to take a road trip without fuel, or wheels.

I know it's a hard pill to swallow for the desperate, but it's the truth.

And let me save you wasting another year, and risk coming back here asking the same question in twelve months...

Start creating a plan, and start working on it.

Don't have skills? Learn them.

Don't have money? Save up.

Don't have time? Sell your Xbox (and use the money to fund your first basic website.)

Once you have these assets, make it part of your plan to build more assets, such as:

- traffic
- partnerships
- products
- email lists

If all this sounds too dull, and too much like hard work, then there's another popular forum where you can go and get rich overnight, by breaking laws, ruining lives, and detaching yourself of any moral compass for as long as it takes.

This is a marketing forum, not a work from home mummies forum. This is the place to learn marketing and business tactics, not fly by night envelope stuffing bull****, or quick cash methods that don't work as well as you're promised, and don't give you any kind of future security.

Time to get a grip. Just make sure you're grabbing the rope that is attached to a firm building... not the one that's made of pasta and tied around a three legged table.
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...Did he really say pixie dust...?
That was the exact quote. At least I'm pretty sure. I can go back and
check the email if I still have it.

** EDIT **

Okay, the exact quote was "I was looking for some magic pixie dust"

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Amen Nick!

Man you hit the nail on the head. I especially liked the admonition to "sell stuff on ebay" and a follow up comment about using craigslist if you cannot afford the listing fees which by the way ebay gives you 5 per month that you can list for free (or did the last time I checked).

If you dont have anything to sell, ask your parents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, friends, neighbors but most of all get off you dead a** and do something.

Selling stuff on ebay is the BEST way that I recommend to anyone to get some REAL world experience in doing business, dealing with customers, learning about shipping etc. etc..

My first question to someone who would tell me they have no time and follow it up with "no money" would be, then what the he** are you doing with your time? Sleeping? Playing video games??

Last time I went through the drive thru window at my local McDonald's they had a help wanted ad on the window. No it isn't beneath you or anyone else to work at Micky D's. I worked shoveling horse sh*t from horse stables 30 years ago to keep food on the table. Get up off of it and get on with it!

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The internet is like a source of....well, basically EVERYTHING. I have a friend who only owns a high school diploma and came across a site one day that sells lingerie around the United States. Considering the equivalence of cost and quality of the products, she began doing research on how to manufacture stuff from china, where everything is much cheaper but not necessarily poorly-made. lets just put it this way: now she owns 2 houses in both china and America. .
But amen to most of the things you stated: You gotta find your interests and acquire what the 'flow' is nowadays. of course it will take your time and effort but it certainly doesnt require a high degree from school.

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You can always sell your belongings on craigslist too, and ebay...

But I don't like the attitude that you need to basically stop dreaming and thinking that you can't make money online

The second you stop believing that one day you will make a lot of money online is the second you fail.

If you don't believe you can do it, whats the point? You might as well work for a company that will give you your weekly paycheck.
Sure. There's NOTHING wrong with dreaming. But if you think reality even comes close to the dream, you're mistaken. Sure, you get the same end results, but in reality, you can't walk on water and you most definitely feel pain.

The problem is, there's a chasm between a dreamer and an ambitious go-getter with a dream. I'm talking about the former here, not the latter.


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I think this is what's wrong with alot of the younger generation today. Many of them have been given everything their whole life and all of a sudden they are grown up and expect that everything is still going to be given to them and they won't or don't have to work for it.
Let me tell you, age has nothing to do with it. A lot of more mature people will have bigger chips on their shoulder, more cynicism, more emotional luggage and more preconceived, harmful notions that have been imprinted into their belief system by the media and marketing for dozens of years.

I agree, younger kids have a more entitlement mindset in general than the previous generation, but that also gives them the idea that they deserve to succeed too.

It works both ways.

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Yes, I agree with your gripes, but often people have to get burned to understand what hot means :-)
I agree, but what gets my goat is that the people doing the burning are ruining it for the entire restaurant industry, not just their own kitchen.

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Nick, this is human nature and neither you or I or anybody on this planet is
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I disagree, respectfully Steve. Did you ever hear the story about the little girl who was forced to grow up in solitary confinement, being fed like a dog, around other dogs?

She walked on all fours, howled for her dinner, and ate from a bowl. Eventually, she was taught to speak basic words, and walk on two feet.

It sounds like a sick joke, but it's a true - and tragic - story of cruelty.

The point being, human nature is hugely misunderstood. We are creatures of behaviour, and behavior comes from our environment.

Of course we all want the shortest path, the least resistance. But we all have the ability to rationalize, take responsibility, use common sense and grow up.

If we didn't, then why aren't YOU jumping over all the latest get rich quick schemes? After all, you're human aren't you?

Surely, if it was human nature, then you too would be succumbed into such fairy tales and fantasy every day, right?

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Sure. There's NOTHING wrong with dreaming. But if you think reality even comes close to the dream, you're mistaken. Sure, you get the same end results, but in reality, you can't walk on water and you most definitely feel pain.

The problem is, there's a chasm between a dreamer and an ambitious go-getter with a dream. I'm talking about the former here, not the latter.




Let me tell you, age has nothing to do with it. A lot of more mature people will have bigger chips on their shoulder, more cynicism, more emotional luggage and more preconceived, harmful notions that have been imprinted into their belief system by the media and marketing for dozens of years.

I agree, younger kids have a more entitlement mindset in general than the previous generation, but that also gives them the idea that they deserve to succeed too.

It works both ways.



I agree, but what gets my goat is that the people doing the burning are ruining it for the entire restaurant industry, not just their own kitchen.



I disagree, respectfully Steve. Did you ever hear the story about the little girl who was forced to grow up in solitary confinement, being fed like a dog, around other dogs?

She walked on all fours, howled for her dinner, and ate from a bowl. Eventually, she was taught to speak basic words, and walk on two feet.

It sounds like a sick joke, but it's a true - and tragic - story of cruelty.

The point being, human nature is hugely misunderstood. We are creatures of behaviour, and behavior comes from our environment.

Of course we all want the shortest path, the least resistance. But we all have the ability to rationalize, take responsibility, use common sense and grow up.

If we didn't, then why aren't YOU jumping over all the latest get rich quick schemes? After all, you're human aren't you?

Surely, if it was human nature, then you too would be succumbed into such fairy tales and fantasy every day, right?

Okay, Nick...it's not human nature. What it is, is society's poisoning of
us.

Look at the lottery commercials, the casino commercials, and on and on.

Day in and day out, Madison Avenue is bombarding us with "the dollar
and a dream" mentality.

If I'm wrong, why does the mega millions hit 20 million dollars plus in a day?

Do you realize that if these "rational" people would save all the money
that they spent on the lottery and in casinos each year that they could
probably afford to buy a home after 5 years?

So as long as society continues to poison people with this crap (and you
know they'll never stop because that's big bucks for them) people are
going to continue looking for their pixie dust.

So I respectfully disagree with you...whatever you want to call it.

It ain't gonna change.

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it will be good if i make money and my exitance through this.
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Good point.

I really believe that any problem can be overcome, but it takes that mindset to actually solve it. A lot of people will say something like "I don't have technical skills" or "I can't make a website" but what they are really saying is that they are not willing to learn how to do it.

A lot of the problems in IM come down to laziness and a lot of people's inability to take action and be consistent.
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I am a newbie and I totally agree. I am hanging in there and spending a lot of time trying to learn. Thanks for being so bruitally honest.

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no money - get a job
no contacts - start networking, seems like WF is good place for it.
no skills - learn it. Again, there are tons you can learn just by reading WF.
no time - No time? everyone has 24 hours, no more, no less. Find time by watching less TV, quit games..

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It is really about mindset more than anything.

People need to stop focusing on what they can't do and start focusing on what they can do.

They also need to realize that Rome was not built in a day.

Building a business takes time and commitment.

All of these so-called "overnight successes" usually have a huge story of trial and error and overcoming all obstacles to get where they were.

A lot of times, the the "overnight successes" are five years or more in the making.

So, people need to shift their mindset and realize that it takes work, time and dedication to build a successful business.

It doesn't matter what the sales letter says, you are not going to become a millionaire overnight. You need to build a solid foundation for your business and build on top of that foundation each and every day.

Success does not come overnight. As Jim Rohn would say "it is small positive habits that are repeated daily that build success." Or something along those lines. I was paraphrasing.

Anyway, it's about the mindset of the individual and until that mindset shifts they will always be in the same boat.

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Okay, Nick...it's not human nature. What it is, is society's poisoning of
us.

Look at the lottery commercials, the casino commercials, and on and on.

Day in and day out, Madison Avenue is bombarding us with "the dollar
and a dream" mentality.

If I'm wrong, why does the mega millions hit 20 million dollars plus in a day?

Do you realize that if these "rational" people would save all the money
that they spent on the lottery and in casinos each year that they could
probably afford to buy a home after 5 years?

So as long as society continues to poison people with this crap (and you
know they'll never stop because that's big bucks for them) people are
going to continue looking for their pixie dust.

So I respectfully disagree with you...whatever you want to call it.

It ain't gonna change.
Yeah, I totally agree.

I think that's why people come to this forum expecting untold riches, without doing any work or actuall learning any skills.

And it's perpetuated by some certain names around here (and elsewhere) in the IM training community, who feed the misconception.

If enough people say it, then it's gotta be true, right? Riiighht??

Bottom line? The sooner people are shaken out of this wonderland and finally see what they really need to do, they wouldn't become so complacent and might actually start seeing results.

I don't mind lazy people. I don't mind people who want to work a day job for someone else.

What I do mind, is people wasting other people's time with lies and false hope, and then the dreamers kicking up a fuss and throwing toys out of the pram when things don't make them millions overnight.

But yeah, you're right Steve. It won't change because that's where the money is for a lot of "marketers." Selling the impossible or improbable to the impossibly hopeful.

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you gotta have time. like they say, if you can't do the time, dont do the crime

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I realised a couple of years ago that I can actually get great money by going to work and doing the 8:30 - 5:00 job. It's bloody simple.

Now I just need to clone, outsource and scale up.

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I agree with you Nick, but as long as people create eBooks/products with headlines like "make $100k in your spare time online with no investment or effort", there will always be a sucker out there.
And there are infomercials, radio commercials, POD and "real" books at Amazon telling people they can make an overnight fortune on the Internet.

Why even Robert Allen's books are telling people how rich they can become on the net. And another real estate guru, Ron LeGrand has become all gaga about teaching people to sell online.

The Internet seems to be replacing get-rich-with-real-estate.

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I didn't use to have time.

Then I stopped watching Star Trek reruns and something amazing happened.

I suddenly had time!

Seriously, everyone has time, it's just how you choose to use it. With emphasis on the word choose.
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