My reply to Raymond Edeh

Louis Raven · 12-02-2008, 03:08 PM

I know and respect all Warriors as moderators but I don't agree with the deletion of his thread.

From my view he was excited and had no intention of leading others to a WSO or any other kind of offer. The way he wrote his title seemed spammy but it was a success story in the making. We should encourage all Warriors.

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Raymond, I was a little disappointed I didn't find a tutorial to make loads of money.

Remember things don't always plan out as simple as they look. Many times I've thought "easy 10 sales of a $10 product = $100 a day" but it never works out that way.

You need to write down your plan and look at it from all angles including your customers point of view.

Are people willing to pay your prices?

Does your quality of writing match those of others charging the same price?

If I was looking for an eBook writer I'd go through 2 stages..

1) I'd seek out 4 writers withing my budget.

2) I'd then choose the best quality out of the 4.

The more peoples categories you fall into the more you'll make. It's very hard NOT to be able to sell quality.

After you've established a rhythm upload 2 of your eBooks to the WSO section, set a price that benefits you and say "check out my work, Warriors Only, get a unique eBook for the discounted price of $xx"

Good luck and let us know if it worked out for you.

Louis

P.S. I could have PM'd Raymond but feel this is a message for all Warriors.

matthewd · 12-02-2008, 03:16 PM

I agree with you that the his OP shouldn't have been deleted, but it quickly turned into 2 pages of accusations and bullying without any reason/proof.

I don't know Raymond, but I hate to see Warriors acting like they were to him and felt bad for him.

What I want more than anything is for him to come back in 30 days and rub it in their faces that he succeeds. Whether he does or not, I don't know... his plans sounds tough to me, but if he can pull it off I will be extremely happy for him.

Louis Raven · 12-02-2008, 03:19 PM

Hey Matt,

actually I inderstand now it may have been deleted for his sake?

Maybe he deleted it?

Anyhow I hope he does do well.

SandyDuPlessis · 12-02-2008, 03:21 PM

I must admit that I was a little confused. In another thread a member set herself the target of earning 10K in seven days and without a plan of action and to start immediately! A superhuman task if ever there was one. Everybody has and continues to applaud her. Me included.

Now Raymond has announced pretty much the same thing, but he wants to make 30K in one month. He doesn't appear to have a plan either. I noticed that when forced to, he said he would write eBooks, but it seems to me that his back was pretty much to the wall when he said that.

My confusion lies in the fact that why is one person worth applauding and the other not.

Did I really read such negative comments by the same incredibly generous people who have supported more than one warrior when they were in trouble?

I really am confused! It all seems so sad.

Sandy

matthewd · 12-02-2008, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by medifox

I must admit that I was a little confused. In another thread a member set herself the target of earning 10K in seven days and without a plan of action and to start immediately! A superhuman task if ever there was one. Everybody has and continues to applaud her. Me included.

Now Raymond has announced pretty much the same thing, but he wants to make 30K in one month. He doesn't appear to have a plan either. I noticed that when forced to, he said he would write eBooks, but it seems to me that his back was pretty much to the wall when he said that.

My confusion lies in the fact that why is one person worth applauding and the other not.

Did I really read such negative comments by the same incredibly generous people who have supported more than one warrior when they were in trouble?

I really am confused! It all seems so sad.

Sandy

Exactly how I felt about it... I didn't understand why they are so helpful and motivating in one thread and not in the other.

The only conclusion I could get is that they were discriminating b/c of him being from Nigeria... there were many comments made about him being able to pull this off using scams.

Louis Raven · 12-02-2008, 03:29 PM

Hi Sandy,

Quote:

Now Raymond has announced pretty much the same thing, but he wants to make 30K in one month. He doesn't appear to have a plan either.

Oh don't get me wrong.. his goal seems very "dreamy" but without dreams we amount to nothing!

If I dream of making £10 a day then sure, it will most probably come true, but, win or lose the outcome will only be £10. I say shoot for the stars and see how far you can get.

Louis

Jared Alberghini · 12-02-2008, 03:32 PM

OK HERE'S THE REASON IT WAS DELETED:

Obviously you haven't seen all of his other posts that have been deleted... I saw three of them yesterday, and they were nuked pretty quick... I'm not even sure why this latest post of his wasn't deleted sooner, before it got so many replies...

He has been 'hijacking thread titles/ideas' left and right... he takes a good thread, changes the title SLIGHTLY, and changes the post SLIGHTLY, and posts as if it were his idea.

If you saw the ones I have seen, he just changes the numbers... like the most recent thread... Watch me make $100 a day... well, raymond came along today and posted Watch me make $1000 a day... same concept, just one more 0 in the title, but no substance or value whatsoever in HIS thread.

This has been going on for at least a few days now 'that I have noticed anyways' and the pattern seems to continue...

He finds a good 'hot' thread, copies it, and thinks this is a good way to get views... on the contrary, it's a very good way to get BANNED.

I hope that clears it up for everyone that is defending this person.

Keep an eye out... I'm sure it's not over yet... I'll bet you will see another 'Duplicate Thread' from him in no time...

- Jared

SandyDuPlessis · 12-02-2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini

OK HERE'S THE REASON IT WAS DELETED:

Obviously you haven't seen all of his other posts that have been deleted... I saw three of them yesterday, and they were nuked pretty quick... I'm not even sure why this latest post of his wasn't deleted sooner, before it got so many replies...

He has been 'hijacking thread titles/ideas' left and right... he takes a good thread, changes the title SLIGHTLY, and changes the post SLIGHTLY, and posts as if it were his idea.

If you saw the ones I have seen, he just changes the numbers... like the most recent thread... Watch me make $100 a day... well, raymond came along today and posted Watch me make $1000 a day... same concept, just one more 0 in the title, but no substance or value whatsoever in HIS thread.

This has been going on for at least a few days now 'that I have noticed anyways' and the pattern seems to continue...

He finds a good 'hot' thread, copies it, and thinks this is a good way to get views... on the contrary, it's a very good way to get BANNED.

I hope that clears it up for everyone that is defending this person.

Keep an eye out... I'm sure it's not over yet... I'll bet you will see another 'Duplicate Thread' from him in no time...

- Jared

That certainly clears that up Jared.
Loud and clear.

I am aware that there are warriors who do not always behave in an ethical manner. And I was not aware that he was one of those warriors. Thank you for straightening the matter out. Much appreciated. At least now I am no longer confused.

Sandy

Louis Raven · 12-02-2008, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini

OK HERE'S THE REASON IT WAS DELETED:

Obviously you haven't seen all of his other posts that have been deleted... I saw three of them yesterday, and they were nuked pretty quick... I'm not even sure why this latest post of his wasn't deleted sooner, before it got so many replies...

He has been 'hijacking thread titles/ideas' left and right... he takes a good thread, changes the title SLIGHTLY, and changes the post SLIGHTLY, and posts as if it were his idea.

If you saw the ones I have seen, he just changes the numbers... like the most recent thread... Watch me make $100 a day... well, raymond came along today and posted Watch me make $1000 a day... same concept, just one more 0 in the title, but no substance or value whatsoever in HIS thread.

- Jared

Ok well then it seems I made this post in error.

Either way, my reply here is in response to the thread in question. None others.

Louis

matthewd · 12-02-2008, 03:48 PM

Jared - I was not aware of this, but I will keep an eye out for it now.

I still think we should not be so quick to attack people here but, like I said, I had not noticed him doing this first-hand.

I like your reasoning more than simply assuming he is a scammer b/c of where he lives.

Jared Alberghini · 12-02-2008, 03:50 PM

Sure thing Sandy...

I hate to see fellow Warriors get taken advantage of / duped / and since his previous posts were getting deleted so quick, nobody knew what he was doing...

Glad to help clear it up for you.

- Jared

dahsyat212 · 12-02-2008, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini

Sure thing Sandy...

I hate to see fellow Warriors get taken advantage of / duped / and since his previous posts were getting deleted so quick, nobody knew what he was doing...

Glad to help clear it up for you.

- Jared

I'm hat too

Jared Alberghini · 12-02-2008, 04:04 PM

Quote:

I never did what you have just accused me of

I'm sure the mods who actually deleted your threads can back me up. (I know I wasn't just seeing things)

Just be honest with us, or else you will never gain the trust of anyone here.

- Jared

Bev Clement · 12-02-2008, 05:52 PM

Matthew, I have no idea what happened later in the thread as it was gone by the time I returned now. But for myself, the place Raymond comes from had nothing to do with my comments. I would have asked the same question if the circumstances were the same regardless of their location. From memory, I don't his country was mentioned until after you said where he came from.

Allen Graves · 12-02-2008, 06:08 PM

Who cares, y'all?!

There is an ignore feature where you can simply ignore him and be done with it.

The mods here are obviously doing their job, so why should we continue harping on it?

AL

Michael Mayo · 12-02-2008, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

Who cares, y'all?!

There is an ignore feature where you can simply ignore him and be done with it.

The mods here are obviously doing their job, so why should we continue harping on it?

AL

Allen, Sorry, I couldn't let this slide.
Raymond stated this and it is Total B.S.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond Edeh

Hi Jared,

With all due respect, I never did what you have just accused me of. I never hijacked any thread. I never duplicated any idea.

I have better things to do, though I like this forum, than to be looking for hot threads and all that just to get views from forum members as you alleged.

OMG! You are even praying for me to be banned for no just cause and swearing that I have been and will continue to duplicate threads.

I am sorry if I have stepped on anybody's toes consciously or unconsciously - I never meant to...

I am sorry for deserving to be banned...

I am sorry for whatever I have been accused of doing...

I have a good heart towards everybody in this forum.

Time will tell...

Kindest regards,
Raymond Edeh

Raymond, Your full of it!

What Jared stated was the Truth and I was done with your bull till I seen
you challange his statement here in this thread.

Stop trying to pull on other Warriors Heart Strings as it won't work.
I also seen more than one of your threads vanish into thin air! Pooof!

Take you rear and go home no one wants to see the BS you,ve
pulled/spilled here the past few days. My Grand Daughter even spotted
you and said check this out papal!

You've wasted enough of my time.

Allen, Where is that ignore feature located???

(Man, I think I need a Vacation!)

Jared Alberghini · 12-02-2008, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

Who cares, y'all?!

There is an ignore feature where you can simply ignore him and be done with it.

The mods here are obviously doing their job, so why should we continue harping on it?

AL

Good point AL... sick of someone? Put them on your Ignore list...

I personally would rather not ignore him, so I can help report him if he continues in the future...

- Jared

Allen Graves · 12-02-2008, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Mayo

Allen, Where is that ignore feature located???

There may be an easier way, but click his name, go to his profile. Just below his name, there is a drop down called "User Lists" - drop it down and choose "Add to ignore list."

Gone forever. LOL

AL

12-02-2008, 03:08 PM	#1
Louis Raven Elite Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 2,828 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 196 Thanked 64 Times in 49 Posts Social Networking	My reply to Raymond Edeh I know and respect all Warriors as moderators but I don't agree with the deletion of his thread. From my view he was excited and had no intention of leading others to a WSO or any other kind of offer. The way he wrote his title seemed spammy but it was a success story in the making. We should encourage all Warriors. ---------------------------------- Raymond, I was a little disappointed I didn't find a tutorial to make loads of money. Remember things don't always plan out as simple as they look. Many times I've thought "easy 10 sales of a $10 product = $100 a day" but it never works out that way. You need to write down your plan and look at it from all angles including your customers point of view. Are people willing to pay your prices? Does your quality of writing match those of others charging the same price? If I was looking for an eBook writer I'd go through 2 stages.. 1) I'd seek out 4 writers withing my budget. 2) I'd then choose the best quality out of the 4. The more peoples categories you fall into the more you'll make. It's very hard NOT to be able to sell quality. After you've established a rhythm upload 2 of your eBooks to the WSO section, set a price that benefits you and say "check out my work, Warriors Only, get a unique eBook for the discounted price of $xx" Good luck and let us know if it worked out for you. Louis P.S. I could have PM'd Raymond but feel this is a message for all Warriors.

12-02-2008, 03:16 PM	#2
matthewd Licensing Pro War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 785 Thanks: 65 Thanked 35 Times in 28 Posts Social Networking	Re: My reply to Raymond Edeh I agree with you that the his OP shouldn't have been deleted, but it quickly turned into 2 pages of accusations and bullying without any reason/proof. I don't know Raymond, but I hate to see Warriors acting like they were to him and felt bad for him. What I want more than anything is for him to come back in 30 days and rub it in their faces that he succeeds. Whether he does or not, I don't know... his plans sounds tough to me, but if he can pull it off I will be extremely happy for him.
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12-02-2008, 03:19 PM	#3
Louis Raven Elite Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 2,828 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 196 Thanked 64 Times in 49 Posts Social Networking	Re: My reply to Raymond Edeh Hey Matt, actually I inderstand now it may have been deleted for his sake? Maybe he deleted it? Anyhow I hope he does do well.

12-02-2008, 03:21 PM	#4
SandyDuPlessis HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Now living in Dubai, UAE but Cape Town, South Africa is home. Posts: 320 Blog Entries: 9 Thanks: 39 Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts Contact Info	Re: My reply to Raymond Edeh I must admit that I was a little confused. In another thread a member set herself the target of earning 10K in seven days and without a plan of action and to start immediately! A superhuman task if ever there was one. Everybody has and continues to applaud her. Me included. Now Raymond has announced pretty much the same thing, but he wants to make 30K in one month. He doesn't appear to have a plan either. I noticed that when forced to, he said he would write eBooks, but it seems to me that his back was pretty much to the wall when he said that. My confusion lies in the fact that why is one person worth applauding and the other not. Did I really read such negative comments by the same incredibly generous people who have supported more than one warrior when they were in trouble? I really am confused! It all seems so sad. Sandy
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12-02-2008, 03:32 PM	#7
Jared Alberghini Godson of the Godfather War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The NorthEast Kingdom - Vermont, USA Posts: 2,073 Blog Entries: 25 Thanks: 581 Thanked 788 Times in 369 Posts Social Networking	Re: My reply to Raymond Edeh OK HERE'S THE REASON IT WAS DELETED: Obviously you haven't seen all of his other posts that have been deleted... I saw three of them yesterday, and they were nuked pretty quick... I'm not even sure why this latest post of his wasn't deleted sooner, before it got so many replies... He has been 'hijacking thread titles/ideas' left and right... he takes a good thread, changes the title SLIGHTLY, and changes the post SLIGHTLY, and posts as if it were his idea. If you saw the ones I have seen, he just changes the numbers... like the most recent thread... Watch me make $100 a day... well, raymond came along today and posted Watch me make $1000 a day... same concept, just one more 0 in the title, but no substance or value whatsoever in HIS thread. This has been going on for at least a few days now 'that I have noticed anyways' and the pattern seems to continue... He finds a good 'hot' thread, copies it, and thinks this is a good way to get views... on the contrary, it's a very good way to get BANNED. I hope that clears it up for everyone that is defending this person. Keep an eye out... I'm sure it's not over yet... I'll bet you will see another 'Duplicate Thread' from him in no time... - Jared
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12-02-2008, 03:48 PM	#10
matthewd Licensing Pro War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 785 Thanks: 65 Thanked 35 Times in 28 Posts Social Networking	Re: My reply to Raymond Edeh Jared - I was not aware of this, but I will keep an eye out for it now. I still think we should not be so quick to attack people here but, like I said, I had not noticed him doing this first-hand. I like your reasoning more than simply assuming he is a scammer b/c of where he lives.
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12-02-2008, 03:50 PM	#11
Jared Alberghini Godson of the Godfather War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The NorthEast Kingdom - Vermont, USA Posts: 2,073 Blog Entries: 25 Thanks: 581 Thanked 788 Times in 369 Posts Social Networking	Re: My reply to Raymond Edeh Sure thing Sandy... I hate to see fellow Warriors get taken advantage of / duped / and since his previous posts were getting deleted so quick, nobody knew what he was doing... Glad to help clear it up for you. - Jared
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12-02-2008, 05:52 PM	#14
Bev Clement Writer War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,419 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 340 Thanked 833 Times in 285 Posts	Re: My reply to Raymond Edeh Matthew, I have no idea what happened later in the thread as it was gone by the time I returned now. But for myself, the place Raymond comes from had nothing to do with my comments. I would have asked the same question if the circumstances were the same regardless of their location. From memory, I don't his country was mentioned until after you said where he came from.
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12-02-2008, 06:08 PM	#15
Allen Graves Website-Articles.net War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 2,068 Blog Entries: 12 Thanks: 408 Thanked 465 Times in 196 Posts Social Networking	Re: My reply to Raymond Edeh Who cares, y'all?! There is an ignore feature where you can simply ignore him and be done with it. The mods here are obviously doing their job, so why should we continue harping on it? AL
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