Why is Free so Expensive?

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I got another email today from a well known Internet Marketer with a free audio interview. This time, I thought about it before I mindlessly went to listen.

Is this really free?

Of course the answer is a resounding NO. While what we are doing may have no monetary cost, it certainly has an opportunity cost. (For anyone not aware, opportunity cost is the cost of doing one thing while you could be doing something else.) And bad choices can make opportunity costs terribly expensive.

One analogy I often use is my $100,000 chair. That was one of the most comfortable chairs I ever had and I spent many happy hours sitting in it in front of my computer ... before I gave it away. The opportunity cost of sitting in that chair was at least $100,000.

With that in mind, how do you decide how to spend your limited time on your business? And did opportunity cost play any part in what business you decided to go into?

Marvin
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  • Profile picture of the author PhoebeSmellyCat
    Originally Posted by Marvin Johnston View Post

    I got another email today from a well known Internet Marketer with a free audio interview. This time, I thought about it before I mindlessly went to listen.

    Is this really free?

    Of course the answer is a resounding NO. While what we are doing may have no monetary cost, it certainly has an opportunity cost. (For anyone not aware, opportunity cost is the cost of doing one thing while you could be doing something else.) And bad choices can make opportunity costs terribly expensive.

    One analogy I often use is my $100,000 chair. That was one of the most comfortable chairs I ever had and I spent many happy hours sitting in it in front of my computer ... before I gave it away. The opportunity cost of sitting in that chair was at least #100,000.

    With that in mind, how do you decide how to spend your limited time on your business? And did opportunity cost play any part in what business you decided to go into?

    Marvin
    I learned that Free is almost never free and quite expensive, too.

    Even the free ebook where they reveal 'the latest secrets' are just a ploy to get you on their mailing lists. Most of the time, the ebook is useless and then I have to waste precious time (expensive) wading through all that junk emails and unsubscribing.

    I don't opt for anymore 'free ebooks' anymore. Heck, I don't even subscribe to newsletters. I have bookmarked the few sites that give me good quality info and visit on a regular basis.

    To that person who posted right below the OP, WTH?!
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    • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
      Originally Posted by PhoebeSmellyCat View Post

      I learned that Free is almost never free and quite expensive, too.

      Even the free ebook where they reveal 'the latest secrets' are just a ploy to get you on their mailing lists. Most of the time, the ebook is useless and then I have to waste precious time (expensive) wading through all that junk emails and unsubscribing.

      I don't opt for anymore 'free ebooks' anymore. Heck, I don't even subscribe to newsletters. I have bookmarked the few sites that give me good quality info and visit on a regular basis.
      LOL, I too have found ebooks to be very expensive!

      Part of the problem might be that few ebooks give any indication of the readers their book is intended for. I can remember books that actually gave information about who they were intended for ... beginners, intermediate, or advanced. I suspect some of that was also for marketing though.

      Marvin
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by PhoebeSmellyCat View Post

      I learned that Free is almost never free and quite expensive, too.

      Even the free ebook where they reveal 'the latest secrets' are just a ploy to get you on their mailing lists. Most of the time, the ebook is useless and then I have to waste precious time (expensive) wading through all that junk emails and unsubscribing.

      I don't opt for anymore 'free ebooks' anymore. Heck, I don't even subscribe to newsletters. I have bookmarked the few sites that give me good quality info and visit on a regular basis.

      To that person who posted right below the OP, WTH?!
      Key phrase: "Most of the Time"...

      My question is: What do you do when you receive something that is free AND has great value?

      Do you send the person an email? or do you just consume the info, and proceed to never send a thank you email? Do you ever open up following emails from them?

      You "visit on a regular basis"....do you ever give back to those IM'ers like they give to you? (It does take an aweful long time to write good, quality, content....)
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  • Profile picture of the author ronywilliam
    free is just a word that works very well for marketeers... thats all! No wonder FTC hates the word so much!
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      It seems like it isn't just IM that uses that word a lot.

      The one that really got me the first few times I saw it was

      "free gift"

      Because I couldn't understand what otehr kind of gift there would be. Then almost when I thought I had that idea understood, along comes

      "free gift with purchase"

      <sigh>
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      • Profile picture of the author PhoebeSmellyCat
        Originally Posted by JMichaelZ View Post

        It seems like it isn't just IM that uses that word a lot.

        The one that really got me the first few times I saw it was

        "free gift"

        Because I couldn't understand what otehr kind of gift there would be. Then almost when I thought I had that idea understood, along comes

        "free gift with purchase"

        <sigh>
        I know. It sounds ok because it's been used (abused?) so often that it becomes the norm.

        Kind of like 'new and improved'. How can it be 'improved' when it's brand new?

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  • Profile picture of the author ArticlePrince
    That's I killed my Facebook, I realized that the amount of time I spent on it amount to over $1k a week in wasted time. People don't realize it, but when you aren't working it does cost you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      We can also change the thread to say why posting on a forum is expensive.
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      • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        We can also change the thread to say why posting on a forum is expensive.
        Ouch ... I was thinking about this too when I posted about my $100,000 chair. Almost did ... but thought better about it .

        Marvin
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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          Originally Posted by Marvin Johnston View Post

          Ouch ... I was thinking about this too when I posted about my $100,000 chair. Almost did ... but thought better about it .

          Marvin

          That is exactly why I stopped posting as much. I am getting much more work done. I still like to visit but don't log in as much.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
      Originally Posted by ArticlePrince View Post

      People don't realize it, but when you aren't working it does cost you.
      This is true - but there is more to life than work and money...just sayin'.

      Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author Autobot
    And free could mean that in return you have to give your adress and consequently have to spend time deleting all those emails you get.
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  • Profile picture of the author ejb2059
    Thanks for posting this ....I (and I think everyone else) agree with your thoughts ..NOTHING is "free" ever ..There's always a "hook" but I also believe that most people are aware that said hook is coming and are prepared ..
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    • Profile picture of the author wilsonm
      Opportunity cost only comes into play if someone decides to watch a funny video on Youtube instead of doing work. If someone is Reading a report or watching a video on stuff they are unfamiliar with, what is there to say they might not use the info a week later to great effect?
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymakerz
    The ecomomics concept of opportunity cost defitely is true.
    However listening to video you may come up with new ideas for your business
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  • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
    The problem I see with opportunity cost is putting a value on something unknown ... like listening to an audio or watching a video ... you *might* learn something valuable.

    To some extent, I am starting to consider such activities along the lines of gambling. And I don't think gambling is a good basis for building a business.

    Marvin
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  • Profile picture of the author brandony
    it'll come down to where you are getting quality info from and who you trust is giving it. If you find someone giving free audios...and they have GREAT content....listen, because you might learn something. However, if they are just after your wallet all the time, unsubscribe. That's my motto.

    Brandon
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    • Profile picture of the author VanessaB
      I'll play Devil's Advocate here and say that 'Free' is often the most valuable thing you will get in this industry.

      Why?

      Because a lot of the 'free' stuff is something most newbies will never pay for, but absolutely NEED.

      Fundamentals of business and marketing spring to mind. Marketers give that information away because it's needed it, but we all know that no one wants to pay for it.

      "The Dream" is what SELLS. Strategies, Methods, systems, etc.

      Fundamentals don't sell. But you can bet your ass you need them.

      -just sayin'
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Duncan
    Marvin,
    This is a really good question.

    One analogy I often use is my $100,000 chair. That was one of the most comfortable chairs I ever had and I spent many happy hours sitting in it in front of my computer ... before I gave it away. The opportunity cost of sitting in that chair was at least $100,000.

    With that in mind, how do you decide how to spend your limited time on your business? And did opportunity cost play any part in what business you decided to go into?
    I'd say you have to start with a clear vision of where you are headed, and what your next steps are.

    If you know that the next thing you need to do in your business is write an autoresponder series, then it doesn't do you that much good to get distracted by a webinar on how to leverage Twitter for millions.

    Then I'd make sure I was using the 25-50-25 rule.

    It's a formula from Bob Bly. (Copywriter)

    Here is what the idea is about:

    He calls it the 25-50-25 rule. It is based on the fact that there are only three ways to learn a process (e.g., how to start an Internet business) or a skill (e.g., copywriting): studying, observing, and doing.


    The 25-50-25 rule says that you must divide your time as follows:
    • No more than 25 percent of your time studying - i.e., reading books, attending workshops, listening to instructional CDs in your car.
    • No more than 25 percent of your time observing - watching what successful people are already doing.
    • At least 50 percent of your time actually DOING the thing you are studying and observing.
    For example, if you want to sell information products on the Internet, you would spend 25 percent of your time studying material on the way it's done, 25 percent of your time observing the way other people are doing it, and 50 percent of your time creating your first product... designing your website... and building your list.
    I think if you combine those two ideas you'll stay pretty balanced:
    1. Know what your next steps are and what you should be focused on.
    2. Make sure you are following 25-50-25.

    Hope this helps,
    Jack Duncan
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    • Profile picture of the author russjam
      Originally Posted by Jack Duncan View Post

      Marvin,
      This is a really good question.

      I'd say you have to start with a clear vision of where you are headed, and what your next steps are.

      If you know that the next thing you need to do in your business is write an autoresponder series, then it doesn't do you that much good to get distracted by a webinar on how to leverage Twitter for millions.

      Then I'd make sure I was using the 25-50-25 rule.

      It's a formula from Bob Bly. (Copywriter)

      Here is what the idea is about:

      I think if you combine those two ideas you'll stay pretty balanced:
      1. Know what your next steps are and what you should be focused on.
      2. Make sure you are following 25-50-25.

      Hope this helps,
      Jack Duncan

      Jack,

      I broadly agree with your rule within a slight modification - I like to allow 10% of my time for non focussed learning and research - which in a sense is just listening to the broader market to try and pick up on trends, what's new, where the pain is, where the opportunities are. Much of it involves in dabbling in the 'free' offers and seeing what's new in the content and also what's new in the method they are bringing it to market

      So my 'rule' is 30-30-30-10

      30% is spent focussed on understanding and studying my niche, looking at competitive products, talking to clients

      30% is spent building my own products

      30% is spent promoting my products

      10% is spent on (hopefully) serendipitous learning

      This approach makes 'Free' (the subject of this thread) reasonably good value for me.
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      • Profile picture of the author hastla
        I recognized most highly promoted stuff (e-books, ...) are time wasters as this are on one hand bad written and contain no relevant good info. I found out too that every good service/product costs money, most time a lot and monthly based. I know linkresearch-software (ONLY for link research) what costs 1500€/month (with all API`s what this software use) - so my opinion you will always get what you pay for.... I would generally trust nowadays nobody when claim earing 100k`s of $ -> think of it, when he would do.... he/she will not waste the time here.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Yeah, it is funny! USUALLY, you are lucky if they give you even ONE usable thing in a "FREE" video. They are usually SALES PITCHES!

    There is a tax preparing service here that is now advertising a 1040ez tax preparation service for FREE, and comparing it to getting "the best" for free, etc... But their 1040ez service is *****NOT***** the best they offer! It can NOT be the best! It is the WORST!

    WHY? Because the 1040ez is basically a SCAM! Unless you are a person making like minimum wage with NO investments, NO savings, NO charity, No expenses, NO payments for insurance, etc... the 1040ez will cause you to pay MORE! You basically tell them what was reported, figure the tax rate, and use that to give the tax. So WHY do they offer it, etc? The EZ stands for EASY, since there are NO deductions, etc... So it is easy for everyone, but the tax payer may end up LOSING!

    They probably try to up-sell nearly everyone!

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Whether or not a piece of information is "usable" all depends on the audience/the person who consumes it. Are we assuming that everyone is all on the same level here?

      To an internet marketer, with 20 years of experience, even a free video with advanced internet marketing tactics and strategies may, in fact, not have a single piece of of "usable" information. To others, it could be an absolute goldmine.

      IM'ers/product creators...at least the good ones...really try their best to tailor their product to meet the needs of AS MUCH of their audience as possible. Of course, if you remember statistics 101, you'll have outliers in just about anything you do. Paid or free, you'll have some who absolutely love a product, learned so much, and gave it incredible reviews. For the same product, you may also have people who felt like the material was amateur, and they derived absolutely no value from it. It just all depends.

      Yes, FREE things typically lead to sales/up-sells on the back-end. That isn't always the case though. Sometimes, the value derived for the IM'er is simply gaining a loyal following of subscribers. Thousands of people give up email addresses each. Why? Because the IM'er is doing what an IM'er SHOULD be doing....effectively gauging need and doing their hardest to provide to meet that need.



      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      Yeah, it is funny! USUALLY, you are lucky if they give you even ONE usable thing in a "FREE" video. They are usually SALES PITCHES!

      There is a tax preparing service here that is now advertising a 1040ez tax preparation service for FREE, and comparing it to getting "the best" for free, etc... But their 1040ez service is *****NOT***** the best they offer! It can NOT be the best! It is the WORST!

      WHY? Because the 1040ez is basically a SCAM! Unless you are a person making like minimum wage with NO investments, NO savings, NO charity, No expenses, NO payments for insurance, etc... the 1040ez will cause you to pay MORE! You basically tell them what was reported, figure the tax rate, and use that to give the tax. So WHY do they offer it, etc? The EZ stands for EASY, since there are NO deductions, etc... So it is easy for everyone, but the tax payer may end up LOSING!

      They probably try to up-sell nearly everyone!

      Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author TheWealthSquad
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      Yeah, it is funny! USUALLY, you are lucky if they give you even ONE usable thing in a "FREE" video. They are usually SALES PITCHES!

      There is a tax preparing service here that is now advertising a 1040ez tax preparation service for FREE, and comparing it to getting "the best" for free, etc... But their 1040ez service is *****NOT***** the best they offer! It can NOT be the best! It is the WORST!

      WHY? Because the 1040ez is basically a SCAM! Unless you are a person making like minimum wage with NO investments, NO savings, NO charity, No expenses, NO payments for insurance, etc... the 1040ez will cause you to pay MORE! You basically tell them what was reported, figure the tax rate, and use that to give the tax. So WHY do they offer it, etc? The EZ stands for EASY, since there are NO deductions, etc... So it is easy for everyone, but the tax payer may end up LOSING!

      They probably try to up-sell nearly everyone!

      Steve
      Free can also be used at the right time to provide tremendous value to both the receiver and the deliverer. I own a tax prep company and during our slow time of years we run promotions where we do new clients returns that meet specific criteria for free. No catches, no cost, no limits on complexity. Just free.

      Why?

      To build a relationship that over time can provide a huge value to both us and them.

      To provide activity for my employees and to keep them learning.

      To generate paying referrals during that same time period.

      I do free estimates for the same reason. If you don't like the fees, the refund, etc, you are free to leave. All you invest is some of your time and the risk of getting a professionally prepared tax return and an education.

      Free is often over used and used incorrectly but it is still one of the most powerful words in the world.
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    Free is FREE, it's not expensive lol?
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    I just cost myself $10 reading and replying lol ☻
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  • Profile picture of the author alcymart
    Ok, well I use the word Free in my signature but beyond that, a person must be smart enough to know if they should keep going or Stop! The word Free always worked well in Marketing, but that doesn't mean to be deceptive! I state clearly what is Free

    Take care,

    Bernard St-Pierre
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinFranz
    I think we need to be careful about the attitude "everything free is useless" and its equally dangerous partner "anything expensive must be good." That's exactly the mindset the gurus are hoping for when they pitch their $4997 mp3 sets and $19997 coaching programs.

    If I lined up the 25 best things I own, there would be a nice mix of FREE stuff, inexpensive stuff and very expensive stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
      Originally Posted by KevinFranz View Post

      I think we need to be careful about the attitude "everything free is useless" and its equally dangerous partner "anything expensive must be good." That's exactly the mindset the gurus are hoping for when they pitch their $4997 mp3 sets and $19997 coaching programs.

      If I lined up the 25 best things I own, there would be a nice mix of FREE stuff, inexpensive stuff and very expensive stuff.
      I certainly agree that we need to avoid the "everything free is useless" mentality; that is just not always the case. But how can we quickly tell so we don't spend too much time (money/opportunity cost) finding out?

      My general approach is to find people whose opinions and actions I have grown to respect from my previous experience, and check them out.

      Other people ... well it depends on the interest generated by their headline first, and the first paragraph or so of the copy second.

      Of course, I also consider some things like this forum a form of recreation. Thus I avoid the whole question, and anything I learn here is a free pure benefit .

      Marvin
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  • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
    I just ran across another post from my RSS feed talking about the price of free:

    The High Price of Free | Social Media Explorer

    With this concept in mind, I'm finding it easier and easier to ignore stuff that doesn't fit in with what I'm currently doing.

    Now "free" just sets off some alarm bells .

    Marvin
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