Clickbank Merchants (You Are Losing Affiliates)

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This post is short and to the point, there are tons of clickbank products out there that have great sales letters and the graphics and testimonials are very good as well, the commission structure is great as well and the product converts at a decent rate.

The problem that I am seeing with many is that their affiliate tools are very limited, one merchant will have a nice solo email mailing while the other won't have that, one merchant will have banners and the other won't have that. If you want to fully take advantage of the clickbank affiliates and make more sales then try adding as many creatives and tools as possible, these days some things are set in stone and most affiliates expect to have the tools that help them make a sale.

Another issue that comes up is when someone has to sign up (name/email address) at the affiliate page to get access to the tools, this is going to lose you a lot of affiliates.

Again this was a short post but many affiliates will agree that some of these issues cause them to not promote a product and choose anothr product which may have a worst sales letter, worst commision rate, and maybe a little lower in conersion/sales, but at least they get access to tools that help them pre-sell YOU and YOUR PRODUCT better.

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Magic
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  • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
    Originally Posted by Magic Mel View Post

    Another issue that comes up is when someone has to sign up (name/email address) at the affiliate page to get access to the tools, this is going to lose you a lot of affiliates.
    As an affiliate I would WANT to sign up (somewhere) so that the
    vendor can keep in touch with me regarding the affiliate program

    Harvey
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    • Profile picture of the author TheMagicShow
      Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal View Post

      As an affiliate I would WANT to sign up (somewhere) so that the
      vendor can keep in touch with me regarding the affiliate program

      Harvey
      Harvey I totally respect you and agree with what you are saying but if wanting updates and news is the reason for sign ups, then why not just have a blog that keeps the affiliates updated on the news, contests, and promotions.

      I just hate having to go through obstacles to just get the affiliate tools needed to make the sale, that's all I am saying.

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      • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
        Originally Posted by Magic Mel View Post

        but if wanting updates and news is the reason for sign ups, then why not just have a blog that keeps the affiliates updated on the news, contests, and promotions.
        Mel, unless I'm missing the point here .. how would an affiliate know when the blog is updated ?

        Harvey
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        • Profile picture of the author TheMagicShow
          Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal View Post

          Mel, unless I'm missing the point here .. how would an affiliate know when the blog is updated ?

          Harvey
          Hi Harvey,

          If the affiliate prgram does have a blog and it is mentioned on the affiliate page, then a serious affiliate would check it at least once a week to keep up with updates, now most may not do this but serious affiliates would keep up with the blog updates and news that concerns the products that they are promoting.

          Don't get me wrong on this I support your reason for having a signup to get updates on the affiliate program, but I was just saying that it is annoying to signup to just get access to affiliate tools.
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          • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
            Originally Posted by Magic Mel View Post

            If the affiliate prgram does have a blog and it is mentioned on the affiliate page, then a serious affiliate would check it at least once a week to keep up with updates, now most may not do this but serious affiliates would keep up with the blog updates and news that concerns the products that they are promoting.
            I think any 'serious affiliate' would be appalled to know that he needs
            to 'check it at least once a week' because there is no sign up facility

            Originally Posted by Magic Mel View Post

            it is annoying to signup to just get access to affiliate tools.
            But the site owner might also provide updates to his affiliate tools.
            How will the affiliate know about these ?

            And what is the big obstacle or is so annoying about signing up ?
            It only takes 5 seconds.

            Harvey
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            • Profile picture of the author Ganceann
              Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal View Post

              But the site owner might also provide updates to his affiliate tools.
              How will the affiliate know about these ?

              And what is the big obstacle or is so annoying about signing up ?
              It only takes 5 seconds.

              Harvey
              It may only take 5 seconds to sign up, confirm the sign up and receive unrelated junk being promoted to affiliates...

              but, as I said before, a sign-up isn't a bad thing when an affiliate is committed to promoting a product, it makes sense to be updated about that product. The problem is if you are trying out 20+ products, having to sign up and confirm your email, receive the emails, read them and access affiliate promotion tools it become tedious and too much hassle.

              The easiest option is to have some basic promotional tools available to enable people to test the product without having to sign up... and then having more advanced graphics/tools available for those people who do sign up.
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  • Profile picture of the author globalpro
    The sign up is why they do it. If done right, it supposed to be to keep you informed as an affiliate.

    At the same time, you can create a hoplink at CB for any product listed and write your own email based on what the sales page is saying. I do it and it works quite well.

    You're right though, some affiliate tools go a long way to making things easier.

    Thanks,

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author lexilexi
    This is a great post. It stands to reason that the more you can do to make life easier for affiliates, the more likely they are to choose you. There's a ton of aff. programs out there and so you want to do anything you can to get the edge.
    Nathan, the ones you've linked to are pretty amazing IMO (as well as being incredibly similar!)
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicola Lane
    At least the ones who have an affiliate page are better then the ones who seem to totally ignore affilates - and don't provide anything!
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
    The ones that get me are the ones that don't even have banner graphics for you to use.
    I will only promote ones that have banners already made and lets be doesn't it doesn't cost much to have a few graphics made.
    I liked one product so much that i emailed the owner and asked if they had any affiliate banners i could use and they replied that there wasn't any need for them as the text links work fine, i didn't promote the product!
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  • Profile picture of the author TheMagicShow
    Originally Posted by NathanFalkner View Post

    Just curious. From your perspective, would these two affiliate
    resource pages meet the minimum requirements of what you're
    suggesting that ClickBank vendors provide to affiliates?

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    I've tended to think of both of the aforementioned affiliate
    resource pages as being akin to the "gold standard" -- but I'd
    love to get other opinions regarding this.
    I would promote those 2 products simply because they give you tons of affiliate tools without having you to sign up in order to see them, there are some aff programs that make it an obstacle for the affiliates to get the tools that they need in order to make the vendor a sale, this post was all about having tools and less hassle.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ganceann
    Originally Posted by Magic Mel View Post

    Another issue that comes up is when someone has to sign up (name/email address) at the affiliate page to get access to the tools, this is going to lose you a lot of affiliates.
    Having a sign-up form for affiliates isn't a problem really... it only becomes a problem when they have no affiliate material available WITHOUT having to sign up to get it.

    Generally, I will look to see if there are any affiliate materials available so that I can quickly test something out... I don't want to be signing up to every product affiliate list if I am not going to promote it after testing it. I would like the ability to be able to test something and then sign up if it converts and produces a decent ROI.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheMagicShow
      Originally Posted by Ganceann View Post

      it only becomes a problem when they have no affiliate material available WITHOUT having to sign up to get it.

      .
      That was my point, I was not in the mood to sign up for 10 different signup pages to just get the affiliate tools that I needed.
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  • Profile picture of the author globalpro
    Personally, I would rather be emailed about updates. Like Harvey, I would need notification the blog was updated or I wouldn't think to check it. I definitely wouldn't want to have to do it on a regular basis. Email me and tell me it's updated.

    Of course, if I sign up for an affiliate list, I don't want to be used to blast everything under the sun. Only affiliate related news or I unsubscribe.

    Most of the affiliate programs I am in do this and it works very effectively. Keeps me up to speed with what's happening.

    Just my $0.02.

    Thanks,

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
      Originally Posted by Ganceann View Post

      It may only take 5 seconds to sign up, confirm the sign up and receive unrelated junk being promoted to affiliates...

      but, as I said before, a sign-up isn't a bad thing when an affiliate is committed to promoting a product, it makes sense to be updated about that product. The problem is if you are trying out 20+ products, having to sign up and confirm your email, receive the emails, read them and access affiliate promotion tools it become tedious and too much hassle.
      OK, so I think what you are saying is that in order to
      quickly decide whether it's worth promoting a product you
      want to see what promotion methods are available. In that
      case I agree that not having to sign up would help - an
      optional sign-up should be available

      I interpreted the original post as suggesting that no sign-
      up facility should be offered


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      • Profile picture of the author TheMagicShow
        Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal View Post

        OK, so I think what you are saying is that in order to
        quickly decide whether it's worth promoting a product you
        want to see what promotion methods are available. In that
        case I agree that not having to sign up would help - an
        optional sign-up should be available

        I interpreted the original post as suggesting that no sign-
        up facility should be offered


        Harvey

        That was my whole point Harvey, glad you realized my intention of this post.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
          Hi,

          I think that first impressions count.

          Also I think it is a good idea to collect affiliates emails and give them a choice to sign up to an opt in list as it is a good idea to stay in contact with your affiliates and help them make sales.

          As mentioned above though, if you have alot of resources on the affiliate page then they know that you are more likely to help them succeed.

          Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Franck Silvestre
    Magic, you are right.

    I've just entered a new niche, and naturally, I chose the product that helped me the most. Heck, they even gave me several free site templates, review pages.

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  • Profile picture of the author Evita
    To me it is annoying to have to sign up before I know if there even ARE any tools or graphics.

    Don't mind signing up after I've decided to promote the product.

    But I do think that the one vendor who is probably losing a TON of affiliates is one I found who had adsense on his landing page....lol....LOL!

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    • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
      Originally Posted by Evita View Post

      But I do think that the one vendor who is probably losing a TON of affiliates is one I found who had adsense on his landing page....lol....LOL!
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      • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
        Originally Posted by NathanFalkner View Post

        Haha... it'll drive me crazy trying to remember the song those
        words are adapted from. Darn you Harvey! LOL
        Clue: who was I responding to ?

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    • Profile picture of the author gcaine
      Originally Posted by Evita View Post

      To me it is annoying to have to sign up before I know if there even ARE any tools or graphics.

      Don't mind signing up after I've decided to promote the product.

      But I do think that the one vendor who is probably losing a TON of affiliates is one I found who had adsense on his landing page....lol....LOL!

      Evita
      As an affiliate I can agree with what you say, but on the other hand having to sign up first will help prevent people from just grabbing the hoplink and inserting their own ID in it to save a few bucks.

      How about making the sales tool availble, but keeping the hoplink private until you do sign up?

      I'm asking this because I'm now trying to put together a product and I want to make it as easy for the affiliates, but at the same time do everything I can to protect their commissions.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nicola Lane
        Originally Posted by gcaine View Post

        How about making the sales tool availble, but keeping the hoplink private until you do sign up?
        You can't keep the hoplink private - it is offered on the marketplace page!

        However, clickbank do make people jump through hoops to get thier first cheques - just so that people don't use thier account in order to get cheap products and nothing else.

        I would suggest, at the bottom of the sales page have a small affiliates link (so that affiliates can easily find it - I don't want to have the affiliates page buried somewhere!), and provide plenty of affiliate resources. Then offer an opt-in affiliate e-mail list, solely to help affiliates perhaps with some incentive to join.
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        • Profile picture of the author gcaine
          Originally Posted by Nicola Lane View Post

          You can't keep the hoplink private - it is offered on the marketplace page!

          However, clickbank do make people jump through hoops to get thier first cheques - just so that people don't use thier account in order to get cheap products and nothing else.

          I would suggest, at the bottom of the sales page have a small affiliates link (so that affiliates can easily find it - I don't want to have the affiliates page buried somewhere!), and provide plenty of affiliate resources. Then offer an opt-in affiliate e-mail list, solely to help affiliates perhaps with some incentive to join.
          As for having it listed in the market place, I've tried finding a specific product using that, and most times I can't find it. Their search engine sucks.

          Then again these where for product that I though I might be able to sell and they didn't have any link to an affiliate page on their site, so they may not have listed them either.

          I suppose people don't put their own ID in that often, especially with products that have nothing to do with internet marketing.

          Thanks, I need to rethink how to set this all up.
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          • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
            Funny thing is....from everything I've read, real superaffiliate throw all that promo stuff in the trash and create their own materials.

            Are you guys telling me that isn't true?
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            • Profile picture of the author TheMagicShow
              Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

              Funny thing is....from everything I've read, real superaffiliate throw all that promo stuff in the trash and create their own materials.

              Are you guys telling me that isn't true?
              Hi Floyd,

              I see lots of super affiliates use the same banners that are offered on the affiliate tools page, and there also lots of other super affiliates that create their own promotions and tools.
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