Is there a real danger with single opt-in?

Scott Million · 12-02-2008, 09:17 PM

I live in the US (New York)...am I at a real risk for using Get Response single opt-in? What's the worst that could happen?

Ron Douglas · 12-02-2008, 09:23 PM

Hey Scott, didn't know you're a New Yorker. I'm here on Long Island not far from Filsaime's office.

I've been using single opt-in for some lists and double for others for years. I honestly don't see a difference other than less lost subscribers from the single opt-in list.

Of course the autoresponder companies would rather you have double opt-in because it makes their lives easier in terms of deliverability issues.

Jared Alberghini · 12-02-2008, 09:25 PM

Yes, the real danger is that you will get many more confirmed subscribers

- Jared

12-02-2008, 09:27 PM

I've wondered the same thing.

I don't think that it's that big of
a deal... It's not like the internet
police are going to bust through
your screen and handcuff you.

I have tons of very small email lists
that I've created over the past 8
months - mainly for testing purposes.

One half consists of double optin
leads... the other half single.

I haven't received any negative feedback
whatsoever.

Peace

rmx · 12-02-2008, 09:27 PM

I've also used single opt for years with an autoresponder script that installs on my server. Even though many of my lists are in the make money niche I've never had a spam complaint.

Knock on wood :-)

Rmx

onera · 12-02-2008, 09:30 PM

Single opt-in list with an option to remove will be ok.

Floyd Fisher · 12-02-2008, 09:40 PM

Some competitor of yours could use your form to enter a bunch of names that never asked for your info, creating major spam headaches for you.

It's a real black hat tatic called 'joe jobbing', and it can cost you dearly.

Scott Million · 12-02-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini

Yes, the real danger is that you will get many more confirmed subscribers

- Jared

Haha. Sounds like a no-brainer. Thanks guys.

globalpro · 12-02-2008, 10:08 PM

As long as you provide contact info and a way to unsubscribe, you are good to go.

I use both single and double opt in. Single for customers through the payment processing script and double for forms. Never had any issues with either.

Thanks,

John

Ouroboros · 12-02-2008, 10:11 PM

I've been using a single opt-in script for my start-up blogs hosted on my own server and have had more testimonials than opt-outs.

I think it depends on your niche...I would probably use aweber or getresponse if I were in IM niche.

Steve

chris_surfrider · 12-02-2008, 10:59 PM

Single for customer signups and double-opt for "free" lists.

To prevent the kind of BH crap that Floyd had mentioned, which IS a problem.

Too many spam complaints and the AR company will axe you.

-Chris

Steve Iser · 12-03-2008, 12:43 AM

Lots of big time mailers run single optin lists.

Even the ones on a free model.
Most of mine are single.

12-02-2008, 09:17 PM	#1
Scott Million Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 1,174 Thanks: 89 Thanked 180 Times in 108 Posts	Is there a real danger with single opt-in? I live in the US (New York)...am I at a real risk for using Get Response single opt-in? What's the worst that could happen?

12-02-2008, 09:23 PM	#2
Ron Douglas Self Made War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 2,745 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 780 Thanked 1,628 Times in 403 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Is there a real danger with single opt-in? Hey Scott, didn't know you're a New Yorker. I'm here on Long Island not far from Filsaime's office. I've been using single opt-in for some lists and double for others for years. I honestly don't see a difference other than less lost subscribers from the single opt-in list. Of course the autoresponder companies would rather you have double opt-in because it makes their lives easier in terms of deliverability issues.
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12-02-2008, 09:27 PM	#4
marcanthony Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Is there a real danger with single opt-in? I've wondered the same thing. I don't think that it's that big of a deal... It's not like the internet police are going to bust through your screen and handcuff you. I have tons of very small email lists that I've created over the past 8 months - mainly for testing purposes. One half consists of double optin leads... the other half single. I haven't received any negative feedback whatsoever. Peace
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