Is this ethical?! This guy is paying his outsources <$2/HOUR!!!

[Preben Frenning]

If she is good, and you think she should be paid that much, compared to others in the Filipines, then $4.40 is good.

Say she gets the job done twice as fast as the regular $2 worker, and that what she does is good. Then she deserves to get paid well =)

[cscarpero]

Give me a break. If I hear one more complaint about how outsourcing is slavery, I'm going to scream!!

I actually did listen to John's call and I hired some Filipinos on Odesk. The wages I pay were bid by them, not me. How is that slavery?

Are they upset with me for what I pay? Hardly! They are usually emailing me daily to ask for more work.

The fact of the matter is I was doing this myself before outsourcing and there is no way I could pay American wages for these tasks.

[the-CPA-guy]

There is nothing ethical or unethical part. In some country things are cheaper and so even earning $2 a day [yes $2/day] can be enough for 3 meals a day.And in this case he is being paid $2/hr means $16/day [considering 10 to 6 job] and it can be a good earning for an unemployed dude for 3rd world country.

[Chris Grable]

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

There are other reasons to pay more, of course. For example, if you get someone who is especially good and you want to keep them working for you, paying them more than the market rate is one excellent way to make that happen.


Paul

Absolutely! Market and performance based rationale for doing what works best.... not someone's notion (probably misguided) of what's right.

Thanks for the discussion Paul! It's time for me to sit back and watch the rest of these folks argue the unarguable.

OBTW... Congratulatons on 12 years of TalkBiz!

[radicals]

I am from a developing country, and I know for a fact that income is reletive to your expenses. This is also economics 101, and human behaviour. The more people will earn, the more they will spend, and the more they spend the higher inflation is. The higher inflation is the more cost of living increases and the more they will need to earn. Therefore the situation in the philipines may not stay static, if most of them gets employment this way. That is definately NOT Morally wrong. One cannot project ones own realtity onto another and then judge that situation. Paying too much may also be unethical, because you are messing with the markets in that country and creates expectations, and then less people would get opportunities as business owners looks elsewhere.

When quoting from the Bible one needs to view things in context as well. I think the quote earlier is out of context, since this is not "abuse" but rather supporting that economy at the expense of ones own economy. The reason why I say this is because I am in a developing country, and I have experience with this. One can make a damn good living on $1500pm in my country, because with that you can almost eat out every day of the week. For example the most expensive meal would be a 250gram Fillet Steak at a restaurant and will you only about $8. Monthly groceries for two would amount to approximately $250pm in my country.

Paying people market related wages relative to their country is the right thing to do and probably more right than wrong.

Also consider that money is only a commodity, nothing more. People created it and still do. Thus people decide what the value of this commodity is, and if it is $2 per hour, then it is $2 per hour, nothing more, nothing less.

[Paul Myers]

Chris,

OBTW... Congratulatons on 12 years of TalkBiz!

Thanks.

Hey... what are you doing reading that on a Sunday? Go watch football or something.


Paul

[DennisM]

It's completely ridiculous to think that outsourcing is unethical. In case some of you don't realize, this is a WORLD economy. Due to technology, it's obviously made it easier to outsource globally.

Why not allow others in this "global" economy earn a living too? After all, it's only fair. If I can find the help I need for my business and outsourcing makes sense, I'm pulling the trigger and hiring that person(s).

Dennis

[Katherine Wheel]

Hi,

That's a helpful message. You are helping the people who want to know what the cost of living is in other countries. To me that seems a good way to judge what to pay. In a 'free market' you can get people selling their time too cheap because they are desperate, and living below subsistence level. Many people want to avoid paying too low, and you have helped. Aceriker and Lakshay and others too.

And yes, I agree with the person who says, you can always show your appreciation upon completion of a good job by giving your outsource freelance a bonus.

[HeySal]

I think the whole question stems from US companies outsourcing off shore and putting our citizens out of work. Now there is a crisis and the practice is being questioned. There is no way for a person in America to stay competitive at 2 bucks an hour when it costs thousands a month just to survive.

US businesses which outsource offshore are putting people here out on the streets. Is that ethical? Doesn't matter - corporations don't care. They have one goal - profit at all costs - and if it kills the masses to meet it they will do so - that is what a corporation is. It can only be hoped that small business owners will have more of an equitable mentality and support their own country rather than become so voraciously greedy for gain that they will watch their neighbors starve for an extra buck in their own til.

[Alexandre Valois]

Double post -deleted.

[Alexandre Valois]

Originally Posted by HeySal

I think the whole question stems from US companies outsourcing off shore and putting our citizens out of work. Now there is a crisis and the practice is being questioned. There is no way for a person in America to stay competitive at 2 bucks an hour when it costs thousands a month just to survive.

US businesses which outsource offshore are putting people here out on the streets. Is that ethical? Doesn't matter - corporations don't care. They have one goal - profit at all costs - and if it kills the masses to meet it they will do so - that is what a corporation is. It can only be hoped that small business owners will have more of an equitable mentality and support their own country rather than become so voraciously greedy for gain that they will watch their neighbors starve for an extra buck in their own til.

Sal, we may never agree on this, but I do respect your point of view.

In my opinion though, it is completely biased. Is it more ethical to give job to someone in your neighborhood, or someone on the other side of the planet? Of course, you'd be happier to know a relative got that job than a complete stranger, but that's where emotions come in, and emotions clouds logic.

One worker equals another - we're all human, and we've all got families to take care of and feed. On the other hand, if outsourcing in a different part of the world allows to feed twice the number of people, should we feel bad about losing "our" jobs?

My father, when he was 58, lost his job at the factory he had worked for for over 20 years. The work was moved to a different province to save on taxes and wages. I'm not even talking about a different country, just a different province.

Obviously, at 58, there was no way he would find another job soon. The company offered to re-hire him if he decided to move and re-apply for the new factory. Needless to say, he declined the offer. The first 6 months were not without stress for my parents, but it allowed them to reassess their needs and motivations. Now, my father is happily retired and swears he'd never want to go back to the life he used to live back then.

We have the luck of living in "developed" country, where education is at our fingertips. We are living in the information era, and people have to get on with the change. If your job is taken away, maybe it's time to find something else, a reminder to always seek improvement in all areas of our lives ...

[Kirk Ward]

Originally Posted by lakshaybehl

I don't know about Phillipines... But here in India you could get someone for well under $2/hour working on their computer for you... And they would be considered to be middle class people... not poor.

What services do you offer?

[fated82]

Putting myself is the business point of view, I think there is nothing wrong with working for $2 an hour. At the end of the day, business means profits and profits comes from high revenue and low costs.

[Kirk Ward]

Originally Posted by Raymond Edeh

The truth is that it is morally wrong.
It's a graphic example of exploitation and modern way of slavery...

Kindest,
Raymond

You poor, persecuted and abused person. Are your negotiating skills so poor that you have to live by throwing guilt?

[Kirk Ward]

Following the model of free competition, as income flows into that area and uses up the available resources (peoples time), the prices will rise. So, sending $2/hour to a lower priced market is helping raise that groups prices and will make it "fairer."

That will lead to inflation, and higher prices for those who cannot perform services. Thus creating more pain and misery for some.

And then, is it ethical to ask me to take money from my pocket, which I need to purchase goods and services necessary for my existence, (food and shelter being the main application.) and pay more than is negotiated, in order to increase the income of someone else, whose needs are less expensive?

The creator of this thread is displaying the class prejudices of someone who has reached a comfort level beyond their feeling of self worth and is trying to assuage their "guilt" by pontificating about ethics.

Jeez

[philk49]

If we can hire someone in another country for their comparable wage and they are able to live a middle class lifestyle. No harm in that. If we were to pay them $10 or $20 per hour then after they got used to living at that income level we suddenly stopped hiring them it could put a hardship on their family. Shucks that is happening right here in the US with all of the job layoffs.

[mexiclanboy]

you bet he is. he really shouldn't be doing that.

[jimcal]

In some parts of the world $2.00 an hour is excellent pay. It doesn't seem fair but now we are part of the global economy and the world is a very unfair place sometimes.
Thanks,
Jim

[seye]

ethical or not you will get people that will do this even lower than that, the main thing is that you are giving people reason to live

[X]

I'm probably overpaying but I just hired someone
using John Jonas' information. She has a bachelor
degree, with over 5 years of experience.

Here's her skill-set from her resume:

- Have competent skills in Customer Service, Search Engine Optimization
(SEO), Linkbuilding, Keyword Research & Social Book-marking.

- Knowledgeable in WordPress, Blogger, HubPages, LiveJournal, ClearBlogs, MyOpera, WetPaint, Facebook, Quizilla, etc.

- Have proficient knowledge in Advertising, Video Marketing &
Content Writing.

- Knowledgeable in Camtasia, Traffic Geyser programs.

- Have proficient knowledge in all Windows Operating Systems, MS Office
Programs including: Word, Excel, PPT.

- Have basic skills in Photo-enhancement application such as: Adobe
Photoshop CS3 & Dream Weaver.

- Possess excellent English Communication Skills (both written and oral).

- Have competent Supervisory skills, Communication Skills Training & Development.

- Have proficient knowledge in DU/LAN configuration and email clients
troubleshooting for OS such as Windows (all versions) & Mac OSX.

What else could I ask for?

She requested $250 per month for 20 hours per week.

Note: That's what SHE requested, not what I offered.
And she seems quite happy. I've seen people on the
resource John recommends asking for as little as 7000
Filipino Pesos per month for full-time work - that's about
$145 per month. That doesn't mean they're going to
be skilled, but they're out there. Most are asking for
10,000-20,000 which is $200-400 per month.

Again, I'm paying on the high end of the scale -
their scale.

Anyway, I want to tell you that John's offering
some great information.

X

[Chris Lockwood]

Interesting that nobody wants to touch my question about whether it's OK to pay low asking prices for goods and services from companies when traveling in poorer countries... must be because you can't say that is OK yet still whine about any freely accepted wages being "unethical", at least not and be logically honest.

[Anthony Smith]

how about forget about exploited people in other countries and do something for your own... just a thought...

[X]

What's ironic Karen, is that $2.00 per hour, by
all accounts, is a livable wage in the Philippines -
a wage that's above the average standard of
living. In fact, $2 per hour is more than many
nurses and physicians are paid:

"The average salary of a nurse in the provinces is about $120, sometimes lower. The average salary a doctor in the Philippines gets is between $300 to $800 a month."

Bulatlat - The Philippines's alternative weekly magazine
PayScale Philippines - Philippines Country Wages, Hourly Wage Rate
(PhP is Philippino Peso, currently exchanging at 48 per dollar - so
100 PhP per hour (average pay for a nurse in the Philippines) is a little
over $2.00.

The minimum wage in the US, this self-gloating
"Christian nation" is $6.55. I don't know about
you, but I couldn't live on that as a single
person in the United States - never mind support
a family. Welfare would be a more cost-effective
choice.

So tell me Karen, have you boycotted the local
supermarket, gas station, drug store, restaurants,
fast food joints, coffee shops, etc, that pay their
employees the minimum unlivable wage?

Think about it.

Personally, I'm paying a part-timer $250 per month
for 20 hours per week. She's at home with her
family, she's happy and she works the hours she
wants to work. She'll also receive twice as many
paid holidays as we take in the states, and enjoy
13th month pay on top of that.

So is that unethical?

With a little education and consideration, I think
you'll agree everyone's coming out ahead.

Originally Posted by karensg

in the bible it says: Torah teaches that “[t]he wages of a laborer shall not remain with you until morning” (Leviticus 19:13) and “[y]ou shall not abuse a needy and destitute laborer, whether a fellow Israelite or a stranger in one of the communities of your land” (Deuteronomy 24:14-15).
1. Create a workplace environment that promotes a culture of support and respect for all employees;
2. Systematically review and assess on an ongoing basis their existing employment procedures and practices
and, when necessary, develop plans to bring their employment policies in line with existing Union
recommendations for fair and equitable treatment for all employees;
3. To the greatest extent feasible:
a. Provide benefits for full-time employees such as health insurance and retirement support; and
b. When outsourcing, seek out businesses that pay a living wage, provide benefits for their full-time workers
and engage in fair and ethical employment practices.
I feel that 2.00 a hour is not right any where in this day and age

[richdirtygirl]

I got some first hand information about how things work in Philippines about a year ago...

It was a woman living here in USA that had family there.

A good monthly income was around $350 for a webmaster job.

The funny fact was: if you paid more, you could put the life of the person or his/her family at risk. I don't know if she was a liar or not... but what she said was that a bigger income would make them "wealthy" for the locals and they would be at risk of being kidnapped.

So, here we go again... with the itchy pseudo moral thingy...

RDG

[Alexandre Valois]

RDG, depending on the area, especially in the south, yes, kidnapping can be a real threat here in the philippines.

[steve m]

That is day light robbery, 1/2$ an hour is peanuts I wouldnt have the check to even ask some one to work for me for that... every one wants to pay out as less as they can but that just takes the piss wholesale......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Steven Carl Kelly]

$2.00 an hour would be a big raise for a high school teacher in India. According to PayScale - Salary Comparison, Salary Survey, Wages, high school teachers in India earn about 120,000 rupees a year, which is about $2,400 USD a year. That's less than $1.25 an hour.

[Christian Fox]

No one is forcing them to work for this wage. In the end it is probably a big opportunity for them.

It's a whole other world over there. With the global economy emerging this type of thing is going to happen more and more.

Just wait very soon it will be them replacing us and it has already begun with manufacturing in America.

[Christie Love]

I was just going to post on this very topic. No, I don't think it's ethical to offer someone "slave labor" to work for you. Freelancers have a business too. It's seriously bothers me to see people working for pennies. How would they like it if people bought their products for only a dollar. I don't think they'd be very happy.

[Steven Carl Kelly]

Originally Posted by Christie Love

I was just going to post on this very topic. No, I don't think it's ethical to offer someone "slave labor" to work for you. Freelancers have a business too. It's seriously bothers me to see people working for pennies. How would they like it if people bought their products for only a dollar. I don't think they'd be very happy.

If a high school teacher in a certain country makes $1.20 an hour and you pay them $2.00 to work for you, is that a slave wage? Of course it isn't. In fact, it's a very good salary.

[Kirk Ward]

Originally Posted by Christie Love

I was just going to post on this very topic. No, I don't think it's ethical to offer someone "slave labor" to work for you. Freelancers have a business too. It's seriously bothers me to see people working for pennies. How would they like it if people bought their products for only a dollar. I don't think they'd be very happy.

Would you rather that I hire someone else and the person who wanted to work for $2/hr doesn't get anything?

And then there's the true question we all have to face ...

What's in it for me?

[zachary0611]

I live in Charlotte, NC and id would work for free for a job that would give me marketable skills that I could put on my resume

[Frank Ayres]

Originally Posted by Christie Love

I was just going to post on this very topic. No, I don't think it's ethical to offer someone "slave labor" to work for you. Freelancers have a business too. It's seriously bothers me to see people working for pennies. How would they like it if people bought their products for only a dollar. I don't think they'd be very happy.

So you would rather see someone go hungry or lose their home?

You are only thinking of your own situation and not others.
In some countries to pay someone $2 an hour is a very good wage.
If someone is happy to work for $2 an hour why deny them work because of some silly opinion about what people should be paid.
People should be paid what they ask for and what they are worth, if they are worth more then they will get more.

I took on a writer a year ago she only wanted $2.50 an article, i gave her $3 as i liked her work and now i pay her $4 an article

[freedom25]

Personally, I wouldn't feel right paying someone such a low wage. Although people have made fair points that these people are offering their services at these low prices, I still feel that people should be rewarded more fairly for their work - no matter where they come from.

[Arine Mark]

It's unethical for me. Especially for exploiting the income gap between places. Furthermore that site blatantly attacking those points. I feel happy though reading all positive comments from you guys.

[paco88]

$2 is fine. i live in manila, you cant compare the living conditions in the usa or uk to here. your taxes work there, you have good roads, health benefits, pensions, etc..its much cheaper to live here, if you have a pension of 1500 / 2000 dollars here youll live very well...i have a blog about cost of living in the philippines in fact thats my next project as there are so many american eu, canadian retirees coming to the philipppines with thier pensions, - i rent a 5 bedroom house and it only costs 380 dollars a month

[jnapier]

Here's a question: Is it ethical to Pay someone 40% more in one geographic area vs. another? Like California vs. Ohio? What about Competition? Over 10 years ago I had to pay $10 an hour for restaurant workers, Why? Competition - Wendys, Arbys, Kroger, McDonalds and many more were all looking for people to work.

Jay NaPier

[adamv]

I don't know why this thread was revived because it seems that both sides of the argument have been covered extensively.

I don't think it matters where anyone lives. If person "A" wants to hire someone and person "B" wants the job and they agree on a price, how can the amount they both agree on be considered unethical?

Some people will argue that $2 per hour is taking advantage of someone. Others will argue that, if the person accepts the job it can't possibly be unethical and still others will argue that $2 per hour in one place is like $20 per hour somewhere else.

There, if anyone reading this started with this post I just saved you several pages of reading.

[spyxx]

X post is quite revealing for wages in Philippine.. But Here is something even better..

I have 2 maid who live and work full time in my back home country that we paid for around 30-40$ a month. They been working for me for more than 10 years and they are happy with it. Ok I do give a raise and bonus sometime, since they are more like family to me now. But still, people in the third world country will benefits a lot with this kind of rates. lol $2/hr.. Hell yeah, you will find tons of ppl fight for it.

The starting wage for someone with Bachelor degree was around 150-250/month working full time (48hr/week), not the kind that X is paying for, 20 hour. Ok some of them were happy with it, and some doesn't but they just don't have options. With huge competition in labor market, its either they take it or leave it and become unemployed.

This is what we business people call as leverage. Most people in the west, who were overpaid, see this as something unethical. But for people in my home country, its a brand new opportunity.

[lisa mesa]

Would you be happy paying someone outside the U.S. $100,000 a year to work for you?

In many major European cities a worker would just be getting by on that income. Yes, really, after you factor in a high cost of living and painfully high taxation.

The point I am making is this - is $2 an hour fair and acceptable to the worker in their location? There are huge variations in the cost of living around the world. $2 an hour is not the issue at all.

[Preben Frenning]

Originally Posted by The 13 th Warrior

Stupid?!?

Yeah, exactly, I totally agree, " IF " the above illustration is accurate.

How about this? How about NOT playing stupid and acting blind to justify the means to the end.

It's all about BALANCE. So there is NO such thing as a middle ground, a happy medium?

Simply can't stretch the imagination to something pragmatic, and rational, for whats needed or could be of some real use at the time.

Here's an example: Some dude came up to me, asking for money. I said money for what?
He said he was hungry. So I said, if I buy you some food, you're cool? He said yep.

So I bought him a meal , that I, myself,would've eaten had he refused it.

Should I have bought him Lobster and Steak? No, not even rich people do that everyday. Most folks, rich or poor eat at regular places , on average, like everyone else.

I looked at him eat it, and it was smelling so good, I ordered the SAME thing for myself.

Balance. Not in necessarily extremes all the time, one side or the other.

There is a fair, reasonable solution without the extremes, if one but took the time. But if you consider a that a waste of time, then that is your belief.

If you simply do what you honestly can do within reason, and its from the sincerest heart, you will find a way.

Do what your heart and conscious tell you, good or bad, it'll manifest out eventually.

The 13 th Warrior

I'm pretty sure I could have eaten what people in the Filipines would have eaten if they make $2/hr if I was over there.

I'll try to say something that hasn't been said in this thread.

If I travel to one of these poor countries and the hotel charges $10 per night and the restaurant charges $3 for a steak dinner, am I exploiting the owners of those businesses by paying their stated prices?

Or are low prices only "bad" when they are for labor?

Definately. I always prefer to pay at least three times more for everything I buy when I travel to countries poorer than my own!

Seriously, you are right. It's the same thing. If we are over there, we pay what they want us to pay.
If we outsource to the Filipines we pay them what they want as well, and it's incredibly cheap either way.'

And besides, for all you overly "Ethical" people:

Originally Posted by richdirtygirl

I got some first hand information about how things work in Philippines about a year ago...

It was a woman living here in USA that had family there.

A good monthly income was around $350 for a webmaster job.

The funny fact was: if you paid more, you could put the life of the person or his/her family at risk. I don't know if she was a liar or not... but what she said was that a bigger income would make them "wealthy" for the locals and they would be at risk of being kidnapped.

So, here we go again... with the itchy pseudo moral thingy...

RDG

You are indirectly going to get your workers' kids etc. KIDNAPPED if you pay them too much!
How "ETHIC" is that?!?

So the bottom line is, if you have moral and ethical issues about outsourcing to poorer countries where they consider you a hero for paying them $2/hr, simply don't.
Keep on paying $10/hr for decent work where you live, where that amount is considered "fair".

Now I'm going to order the training package from replacemyself.com.
This thread has enlighthened me, and made me realize that outsourcing to the Filipines is a good thing.

- Preben

[johnmags]

The minimum wage for manual labor here in the Philippines is around US$6 per day. The $1-2 per hour is ethical here.

Anybody wants to outsource, just contact me and maybe I can help you with that. Thanks

[digimix]

Here in Jamaica, there are many people who live on less than $2 per hour. I definately couldn't but that is probably what I would pay my helper when you convert it to Ja$ that is Ja$160 per hour she could earn Ja$25,600 per month. You see you also have to take into consideration the cost of living and the standards of living. While I couldn't live in The USA on the salary I am paid here (US$15,000 or Ja$1,200,00 per year) In Jamaica, having no children, I can live like a king even on such a slim budget .

[edpudol1973]

I am from the Philippines I guess $2 per hour is great, I am also in outsourcing business.

$2 in the philippines is equivalent to 94 Pesos if the guy work 10 hours a day that is 940 pesos and this is a great earnings here in our country because the minimum salary per day is 350 pesos for 8 hours work.

[Preben Frenning]

I have now signed up for the 14 day trial for $4 at replacemyself.com, and I must say I'm impressed.

And for all you "ethical" people who doesn't like this, here's some info for you:

John is focusing on treating your employees well. Really. A lot of the training course is about that, and why. It is beneficial to both parties, as your workers will treat you well back. And he claims the reason to hire people from the Philippines, is because they are honest, and they work well.

They also set their wage themselves, so there is no ethical dilemma here whatsoever.
$2/hour might sound little to people in the states, but it's a lot over there. When I tell people here in Norway about this, most of them say "poor guys", but once I explain it to them, they get it. That is just their immediate response.

But once you read the job listings etc. It's impossible to find anything unethical about that. However, whether you think it's ethical to hire a cheap workforce to make you money is an individual topic. But regular business ethics apply here. So if you think it's ethical for macdonalds to hire people to flip their burgers and make them money, then the same goes for this.

And if I hear another statement of this being "Unethical" I will flame it. I think most of us have pretty much agreed that it is ethical by now.

Btw, the training provided by John in this course is awesome. If you're thinking about outsourcing overseas, take the the trial. I will probably be unable to get to sleep tonight simply because the information I have gotten today is incredible. Definitely one of the best training courses I have ever signed up for.

Thank you,
- Preben

[GoranCro]

I'm from Croatia and I would consider it to be a 2nd world country. People don't make very much at all compared to the US. of course there are exceptions. last time I was there I saw Ferrari's and Mercedes all over the place yet I turn my head and see people driving the 45 Yugo still.

It's not unethical in my opinion. You're helping that person out, his/her family, and in the end both of you benefit from it.

My only question is where one can find such cheap work?

[Preben Frenning]

Originally Posted by GoranCro

I'm from Croatia and I would consider it to be a 2nd world country. People don't make very much at all compared to the US. of course there are exceptions. last time I was there I saw Ferrari's and Mercedes all over the place yet I turn my head and see people driving the 45 Yugo still.

It's not unethical in my opinion. You're helping that person out, his/her family, and in the end both of you benefit from it.

My only question is where one can find such cheap work?

Replacemyself.com

And if you only want the job listings:

odesk.com (free)
bestjobs.ph (Not free, but works great)

- Preben

[grumpyjacksa]

if that is exploitation, then jump on the bandwagon......

manufacturers of various products have been relocating factories to countries where income levels are lower......

it may seem like exploitation at US salary levels, but the opportunities are heavensent to the people getting jobs.....

it's only ecploitation if you pay less than what it would be worth in that specific country

living in south africa, i can get by on $ 600 a month

on $ 1000 a month, i can live comfortably

by the time I hit $ 2000 a month, i'll be paying 42 % tax.......

just my 0.02c...

[richdirtygirl]

Originally Posted by Alexandre Valois

RDG, depending on the area, especially in the south, yes, kidnapping can be a real threat here in the philippines.

Alexandre, thanks for the info...

and sorry for the delay.

RDG

[Preben Frenning]

I talked with a Philipino exchange student today, and he told me he was making 7,000RPS/mo. When he worked back in the Phillipines.
I told him that I'll help him get an online job that pays at least 10,000RPS and upwards when he comes back, which should be extremely doable.
10,000RPS = Approx. $250/mo, and he thought it was awesome!

He had a bachelor in IT science, and was quite good in english, so his chances are good.

He also told me that there was extremely many new graduates who can't find jobs over there. He said the government doesn't care much, and that the best Philipinos worked abroad.

Just an update for me =) Now go hire someone to write your articles or make your software!

- Prebz