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13 years ago

I think what will determine your outcome is the $x you pay per article.

Are you saying you'll pay $1.00 an article and an additional $1.00 if it gets the 100 clicks?

If you are and you want results, I'd politely suggest you move the decimal point along a bit further.

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ak2000

13 years ago

Hi Richard, I'm saying I will pay X dollars per article plus the same amount again if it gets the 100 clicks...

You (or any other writer) tell me how big or small X is...including how many decimal points

Originally Posted by Richard Van

I think what will determine your outcome is the you pay per article.

Are you saying you'll pay $1.00 an article and an additional $1.00 if it gets the 100 clicks?

If you are and you want results, I'd politely suggest you move the decimal point along a bit further.

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Ian Varnava

13 years ago

You've got a good idea going, but you need to present it in a little bit more 'non-selfish' way. Making the rates clear would help your target audience as well.

EDIT: What I mean by 'non-selfish' way -- Right now your OP is all "Me, Me, Me", where it seems like a writer would get a couple of bucks to write an article that generates your goal of 100 clicks, and even less than a couple of bucks if it doesn't generate the 100 clicks. Meanwhile, you're trying to start a mass parade of subscribers to your own squeeze page, at the writers' expense. It's almost insulting.

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PLR Basket 13 years ago

Originally Posted by IM Joker

It's almost insulting.

It's more than insulting. It's down right evil
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ak2000

13 years ago

Originally Posted by IM Joker

You've got a good idea going, but you need to present it in a little bit more 'non-selfish' way. Making the rates clear would help your target audience as well.

EDIT: What I mean by 'non-selfish' way -- Right now your OP is all "Me, Me, Me", where it seems like a writer would get a couple of bucks to write an article that generates your goal of 100 clicks, and even less than a couple of bucks if it doesn't generate the 100 clicks. Meanwhile, you're trying to start a mass parade of subscribers to your own squeeze page, at the writers' expense. It's almost insulting.

Hi IM Joker, thanks for your input

I'm just trying to better align the interests of the writer and the IM'er here...

Nowhere have I stated "a couple of bucks", I haven't given any indication of the amount in fact

I think it benefits the writer as well because if he/she is really good and confident about his skills then there's a chance he can make double the pay (and that's one of the reasons I am giving very much full freedom around choice of keywords, etc)

And if it doesn't get the clicks for whatever reason then at least the writer got paid a base amount to cover his work

In terms of how much I would pay it depends on the quality...you can get articles here on the WF anywhere from $2.30 a piece all the way to $100+...get in touch with what you think you deserve, we'll have a look at previous work and see how we can reach an agreement from there

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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Hi AK, how are you?

I offer an interjection, here.

Originally Posted by ak2000

- Write the articles and the resource box and post them on my behalf to EZA.

Don't let writers submit to EZA on your behalf. It's not a wise move to give someone else access to your EZA account (for quite a variety of reasons, actually, not all of them obvious ones), and it's definitely not a good idea (for more obvious reasons) to have your articles sitting in someone else's account, whatever the pen-name arrangements!

When I was writing EZA articles for people (a couple of years ago), I did reluctantly offer a "posting to EZA" service as well, simply because some clients absolutely demanded it, but I always explained the disadvantages to them first. This arrangement is nearly all potential/future downside and very little benefit, from the client's perspective. I'm "just saying".

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ak2000

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Hi AK, how are you?

I offer an interjection, here.

Don't let writers submit to EZA on your behalf. It's not a wise move to give someone else access to your EZA account (for quite a variety of reasons, actually, not all of them obvious ones), and it's definitely not a good idea (for more obvious reasons) to have your articles sitting in someone else's account, whatever the pen-name arrangements!

When I was writing EZA articles for people (a couple of years ago), I did reluctantly offer a "posting to EZA" service as well, simply because some clients absolutely demanded it, but I always explained the disadvantages to them first. This arrangement is nearly all potential/future downside and very little benefit, from the client's perspective. I'm "just saying".

Hey Alexa, good to see you!

Yeah, thanks for the reminder...you are totally right.

Having them sit in someone else's account is a bad, bad idea...and getting someone to post them on your behalf isn't a good one either...

Guess I'll have to think about that put don't mind posting them myself

Take care

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ak2000

13 years ago

Ah, I see where a slight confusion may have arisen here...

"$X" and "$2X" are intended as multiples of an abstract mathematical quantity "X", not "two dollars, etc"

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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ak2000

Ah, I see where a slight confusion may have arisen here...

"" and "$2X" are intended as multiples of an abstract mathematical quantity "X", not "two dollars, etc"

Sorry, yes, that's where I came out with my figures

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IM joker - Meanwhile, you're trying to start a mass parade of subscribers to your own squeeze page, at the writers' expense. It's almost insulting.

I think that's a touch unfair. How many people are going to sign up to the Forex list? I for one have no interest in it.

You'll also be pleased to know that it goes to a 404 error page anyway, so not very beneficial to Ak anyway, though I'm sure that wasn't the intention.

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ak2000

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Sorry, yes, that's where I came out with my figures

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I think that's a touch unfair. How many people are going to sign up to the Forex list? I for one have no interest in it.

You'll also be pleased to know that it goes to a 404 error page anyway, so not very beneficial to Ak anyway, though I'm sure that wasn't the intention.

Thanks for pointing the technical glitch Richard, fixed now

Purpose is to recruit writers who then through articles will help recruit people who are interested in forex

All the best, AK

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TimG

13 years ago

Alexa pointed out some good items to consider. One additional factor that you may want to be concerned about is if someone was to artificially inflate the article click-thrus.

I think this is why many marketers pay out for each confiremd subscriber instead of a click-thru on an article. It is too easy to manipulate and you would be on the losing end of the equation. I think your 100 clicks minimum migth help offset that but the scam possiblity still exist.

Also, the X factor would need to probably be high for the accomplished writers because they could just as easily create thier own squeeze page and develop their own list which could be used to market forex product recommendations.

Like your idea but think there are some potential obstacles that need to be ironed out in order to benefit all involved.

Respectfully,
Tim

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Martin Luxton 13 years ago

Good article writers are aware that many people here are looking to pay $5 or less for an article so I don't think you'll get much of a (quality) response.

You might have more luck on Fiverrrrrrrrrrrggghhhhh.

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- ak2000 13 years ago
  
  Thanks for your comments Tim / Martin...let's see what comes out of the experiment
  
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tpw

13 years ago

When I last accepted customers as a ghost writer, I was charging $85 per 1000-word article, AND I still turned away work.

I have zero interest in Forex, so I am not in your target audience.

But if I were to accept your challenge, my rates would be $85 plus $10 per hundred clicks.

Seriously.

And before you were done, you would end up paying me several hundred dollars for that article, because I know how to get results, without cheating.

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myob

13 years ago

You're joking, right? "99.9% accurate artificial intelligence forex trading signals."

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tpw

13 years ago

Originally Posted by myob

You're joking, right? "99.9% accurate artificial intelligence forex trading signals."

He was most likely joking when he made the OP too...

If not, maybe he should have been...

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Kay King 13 years ago

I disagree with Alexa's opinion on a writer submitting to EZA on your behalf.

I do it (extra fee) - for some clients I submit directly to their EZA account - and for several I use pen names on my own account because that's what they want.

What you do depends on your work and your articles and your goals. I also submit to UAW for clients in some instances on my UAW account.

I agree with "caution" as you need to know the writer and understand the process you are hiring them for - but I don't agree with "don't do this" because in some cases it works fine.

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myob

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

He was most likely joking when he made the OP too...

If not, maybe he should have been...

LOL!! It would be no problem for me to write articles that can really get the clicks.

It's called my "Stercus Tauri" writing style. You've seen it. If not, do a search here on the forum.

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tpw

13 years ago

Originally Posted by myob

LOL!! It would be no problem for me to write articles that can really get the clicks.

It's called my "Stercus Tauri" writing style. You've seen it. If not, do a search here on the forum.

LOL

College dropout here...

I never once in my life felt a need to carry around a Latin dictionary until I started coming to the WF regularly.

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myob

13 years ago

Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

Here are some of the other most-oft quotes from my Stercus Tauri treatise (translated from the ancient text)

Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand...If you hold a cat by the tail you learn things you cannot learn any other way...If man could be crossed with the cat, it would improve man but deteriorate the cat...Clothes make the man - Naked people have little or no influence on society...Denial ain't just a river in Egypt...Don't tell fish stories where the people know you; but particularly, don't tell them where they know the fish...There are lies, damned lies and statistics....Do the thing you fear most and the death of fear is certain...Prophesy is a good line of business, but it is full of risks...The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right...It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble - It's what you know for sure that just ain't so....Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please....Laughter is the spark of the soul...Don't say the old lady screamed - Bring her on and let her scream...Be careful about reading health books - You may die of a misprint...The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not....In all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane...When in doubt tell the truth...You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus...

ref cited - Words of the Bull; Sacred Teachings from the Odor of Stercus Tauri

And finally,
"Veni. Vedi. Flatui."
-I came. I saw. I broke wind.

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Kay King

13 years ago

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble - It's what you know for sure that just ain't so....

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please....

You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus...

Prime quotes for this forum some days:p Thanks for those!

kay

Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck.....etc?

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Benjamin Ehinger

13 years ago

Really if you are this interested in getting a writer to write for you, just hire one. Challenges like this make no sense. As a writer why would I want to write for you and get paid upon the performance of the article one time, when I can do this on my own and build my list. There is a reason why us writers accept projects and get paid one time per article that we never have to see again and you own.

I will gladly reject your challenge and get back to writing for really, paid clients that understand how this process is supposed to work.

Good Day to you!

Benjamin Ehinger

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indiatext

13 years ago

so what would be your maximum bid for X...i know people who migh be interested but you need to clear on value of x...

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Andrea Wilson

13 years ago

Err..Im not interested in forex too, but hey Indiatext I think he mentioned the X amount and its $2.30-$100?

Andrea

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GeorgR.

13 years ago

Forex, Insurance, Mortgage....those niches i avoid like the plague. I like writing, but simply cant stand to write about such dry subjects.

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