Dynamic Headlines on Pitch Pages

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So I've been playing around with writing better titles for my pitch page and in the process I've been working on split testing headlines as well.

Suddenly an idea hit me, possibly a stupid one as those tend to hit me more than the good ones, but here it is:

I will allow affiliates to add ?headline=X to their hoplinks and then when the person hits my pitch page they will be given the headline of choice for that affiliate.

This way I could create custom headlines which are going to hit home for the audience which that affiliate is sending to me.

There are definately cases where people would want their own custom headline, and this way I don't need to create new products or pitch pages for those instances.

What do you think? Stupid, crazy or genius?
#dynamic #headlines #pages #pitch
  • Profile picture of the author RemingtonSteele
    Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger View Post

    There are definately cases where people would want their own custom headline, and this way I don't need to create new products or pitch pages for those instances.
    I think you would have to, in a lot of cases, create a new pitch page to match the headline. While I like the idea that you came up with for testing headlines dynamically, the challenge that I see with this is how to adjust the pitch so that it delivers what the headline promises. This is especially important in cases where you're trying to promote the same product to different audiences.

    For example, let's say that you're selling a course about options trading. This course would be good for people who are already involved in options trading, as well as for people who have no idea what it's all about but are looking for an investment strategy or just a way to make more money. So, I would create two sales letters, one for each audience. The current traders will want to know how they can improve their bottom line, while the opportunity seekers will first need to be warmed up to options trading and convinced that it's a viable way to earn income.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Blair
    I bet you could probably make that happen with a php script, and I personally think that would be a pretty good idea. Affiliates want all the tools they can get from a vendor including anything "pre-fab" that makes their life easier lol and allows them customization options.

    I guess I'll give it a good idea "rating Seems pretty cool to me. Just another tool/option for your affiliates, imo that's a good thing.

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  • Profile picture of the author Gary King
    I actually did a little programming give-away for list building on this years ago...

    one page in asp (windows servers) and one in php (unix/linux servers)

    If you want the code, you can have it, but sounds like you might have it down?

    I used it in two ways:

    first, to entice jv partners - the link I sent had their code in it and greeted them by name...

    second, you can pop that in to like aweber with their firstnamefix tag (or similar) and have a custom link for your list too.

    pm me if you would like the code and I'll dig it up.

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  • Profile picture of the author RickDayle
    Having done a bit of programming in the past (my first degree was in "computer programming" if that gives you an idea of how old I am...) I can see how you would want to have dynamic headers, but at the same time, I can immediately see a couple of potential issues:

    1) how do you determine which header to use in each instance?
    2) do you have "canned" content to follow each dynamic headline, or is the content also dynamic in some way?
    3) what sort of time do you expend in tracking the operation of the dynamic system? It is as much as just providing a specific title and content for each type/venue you are posting?

    I recognize the need to provide content and titles for each level and sub-genre of a given niche, but at the same time, I can't seem to wrap my head around a method of having a programmatic method of determining which version to use. Just like when you used to send a resume to a prospective emplolyer, you tailored that resume to their business needs, you should (and it sounds like you are at least trying to) do the same with various sub-niches of any given market. The difficulty in my mind is how to determine how to provide more of a "hands off" approach to "rinse and repeat" without as much personal time.

    Perhaps the answer is a virtual assistant (local or off-shore, if needed) to help out?
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    I don't think affiliates should be given control over the headlines.

    The only way this can work is if all the headlines are closely related to the rest of the content on the sales page. Otherwise the headline will draw them in but when the content doesn't match, off they go.

    And if this is the case then you should have already done all the split testing yourself and found out which headline is working best for that particular sales copy.

    Most affiliates will have a hard time tracking sales properly because they do not have access to your thank you to put their tracking pixel - that is unless they ask you to do it for them. For this reason they are not going to be able to split test headlines against one another so they will only be guessing at which headline is working best for them. If you know what headline is converting best, don't give them an option to blow it. Just stick with the one that is working - you owe it to your affiliates to get them the maximum sales for their traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary King
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      I don't think affiliates should be given control over the headlines.

      The only way this can work is if all the headlines are closely related to the rest of the content on the sales page. Otherwise the headline will draw them in but when the content doesn't match, off they go.

      And if this is the case then you should have already done all the split testing yourself and found out which headline is working best for that particular sales copy.

      Most affiliates will have a hard time tracking sales properly because they do not have access to your thank you to put their tracking pixel - that is unless they ask you to do it for them. For this reason they are not going to be able to split test headlines against one another so they will only be guessing at which headline is working best for them. If you know what headline is converting best, don't give them an option to blow it. Just stick with the one that is working - you owe it to your affiliates to get them the maximum sales for their traffic.

      I agree with you Will - I wouldn't let them put in their own per se, but it would be ok to let them choose from a handful of pre-written ones...

      e.g. - they append the following value and get the corresponding tag line:

      1 - Amazing New Widget

      2 - Crazy Success is Yours!

      3 - How Did I Get Here?
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      • Right now you can type in ?headline=0 through 6 and you'll see the headlines I have right now for affiliates to choose from. Some are old ones I rejected but I wanted to put a bunch up for testing purposes. They all fit with the copy so no worries there.

        Affiliates don't get to choose the TEXT just WHICH headline they use.

        Gary, you probalby will like this, I actually built my entire product with php, where it is a single page but where the html for chapters and pages are selected through php code and stored in a database.
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        • Profile picture of the author WillR
          Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger View Post

          Right now you can type in ?headline=0 through 6 and you'll see the headlines I have right now for affiliates to choose from. Some are old ones I rejected but I wanted to put a bunch up for testing purposes. They all fit with the copy so no worries there.

          Affiliates don't get to choose the TEXT just WHICH headline they use.

          Gary, you probalby will like this, I actually built my entire product with php, where it is a single page but where the html for chapters and pages are selected through php code and stored in a database.
          Have you noticed any results with any headlines yet?
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          • Originally Posted by WillR View Post

            Have you noticed any results with any headlines yet?
            I just ended a $27 deal on my guide last friday so sales have been sluggish following it. I had a ridiculous number of purchases during the sale so it may take a week for me to get enough new visitors to make up for how many became paying customers last week.

            So far, I'm not noticing much of a difference, but I'm assuming that valentinesday and the recent $27 deal are hurting my sales more than anything else.

            The split test isn't properly set up yet so I'm not sure which of my two headlines is performing better. I'll have it finished hopefully by the end of next week. Once it's done I'll be able to easily split test any part of my pitch page without having to create multiple pages or worry about where I'm sending people for the testing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Gary King
          Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger View Post

          Gary, you probalby will like this, I actually built my entire product with php, where it is a single page but where the html for chapters and pages are selected through php code and stored in a database.
          Awesome. Nice idea for web-delivered products!
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          • Originally Posted by Gary King View Post

            Awesome. Nice idea for web-delivered products!
            Yeah it's a "guide viewer" no different then say reading it in powerpoint but the updates are instantly available to members and they don't need to download anything.
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            • Profile picture of the author Brandon Tanner
              I think this is a cool idea, and is very easy to do with php. Obviously you know how to do this Chris, but for anyone else that is wondering...

              Let's say you have 3 different headlines available for your affiliates. If they want to use headline #2, for example, they would add this to the end of the URL...

              ?headline=2

              All you have to do is add this PHP code to the top of your pitch page...

              <?php

              $headline_number = $_GET['headline'];

              if ($headline_number == "1")
              {$headline = "Headline #1 goes here";}
              elseif ($headline_number == "2")
              {$headline = "
              Headline #2 goes here";}
              elseif ($headline_number == "3")
              {$headline = "
              Headline #3 goes here";}

              ?>


              Don't forget to change the text in red to your actual headlines.

              Then wherever the headline should be displayed in the page, add this...

              <?php echo $headline; ?>
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