If the U.S.A or The World Goes Into another Great Deppression What Would Happen To IM?

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This thread is not going to be about if you think the U.S.A or the world for that matter is heading for another recession or even depression.

What I'd like to know is your opinion of how we can keep making a living as IM'ers IF this happens?

My opinion is that the internet won't go anywhere and that selling info products in certain niches will still be a great way to make a living but maybe E-commerce won't be as lucky.

I feel that things won't get shipped/Trucked across the country so cheaply anymore because of high oil prices etc so people will probably be buying local and mostly necessities and not a lot of crap that they are buying right now because money will be tight. So again, maybe certain niches might still make it in E-commerce.

I also understand that the Internet is global and we will surely be able to find a market somewhere where the economy is not that bad so my conclusion is yes that we will still be able to make a living but it will be much harder and for some it will reqire a complete new strategy.

Some food for thought.

Jan
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  • Profile picture of the author vickybabe
    I personally think that when oil prices skyrocket online shops will be the ones to benefit extremely. Think about it, if you are sitting at home thinking about going shopping then realise you don't want to spend too much money on fuel, what do you do? Head over to the pc where anything you buy can get delivered to your door. Sounds like a good niche to be in.
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    • Profile picture of the author jan roos
      Originally Posted by vickybabe View Post

      I personally think that when oil prices skyrocket online shops will be the ones to benefit extremely. Think about it, if you are sitting at home thinking about going shopping then realise you don't want to spend too much money on fuel, what do you do? Head over to the pc where anything you buy can get delivered to your door. Sounds like a good niche to be in.
      If oil prices sky rocket to where you don't want to drive to the store what do you think shipping charges will be for your purchases?

      Also, yes the IM niche will explode only if we can sell these people strategies that work in a severe recession or depression because a lot of the current strategies won't work so well anymore.

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      • Profile picture of the author Ben Holmes
        Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

        Also, yes the IM niche will explode only if we can sell these people strategies that work in a severe recession or depression because a lot of the current strategies won't work so well anymore.
        May I politely disagree with you?

        I consider most IM products to be identical with lottery tickets. People buy them because they provide a dream.

        And even if an IM product works (and I'm willing to grant that most do), few purchasers will ever collect on the promise, because they don't do the work.

        So my opinion would be that the IM niche would explode in a severe recession simply because people are looking for hope. And they'll pay for it if you promise them that hope...
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        • Profile picture of the author donhx
          Originally Posted by Khadaji View Post

          May I politely disagree with you?

          I consider most IM products to be identical with lottery tickets. People buy them because they provide a dream.

          And even if an IM product works (and I'm willing to grant that most do), few purchasers will ever collect on the promise, because they don't do the work.

          So my opinion would be that the IM niche would explode in a severe recession simply because people are looking for hope. And they'll pay for it if you promise them that hope...

          Wow, that's a really cynical approach. Sadly, you may not be wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author matt5409
      Originally Posted by vickybabe View Post

      I personally think that when oil prices skyrocket online shops will be the ones to benefit extremely. Think about it, if you are sitting at home thinking about going shopping then realise you don't want to spend too much money on fuel, what do you do? Head over to the pc where anything you buy can get delivered to your door. Sounds like a good niche to be in.
      yea but then you realise shipping costs are crucifying for the same reason you chose to shop online in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Well the IM niche will blow up for sure.

    More people out of work = more people searching for other work opportunities
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    • Profile picture of the author BruceWood
      Maybe physical products needing shipping will suffer, but that situation may also benefit companies which can drop-ship from multiple locations. I really think that information products and entertainment will blossom. Music/movies/books/courses... anything that commands a price and has instant online delivery. And there will be a low-end rush of new wannabe internet marketers ready to devour anything that looks like an easy way out of a financial rut. (Again, good for the info-sellers.)
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    • Profile picture of the author bay37
      Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

      Well the IM niche will blow up for sure.

      More people out of work = more people searching for other work opportunities
      This. It's already "blowing up" bit time.
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      • Profile picture of the author anthonyk
        My first thought was that offline products would plummit, but then I
        thought about it and here are my thoughts.

        Businesses that ship products will survive because they will figure out
        how to make a profit by re-packaging (walmart has already done this) their products in a new way. Ex: alot of 12 ounce drinks are now 11 oz,
        the print on packages is now pretty plain, boxes and bags are thinner and
        smaller....

        They will figure out how to get their product out---they will spare
        no expense to figure out how to get their products created, delivered,
        and turn a profit.

        My guess is that amazon and places like it will have explosive growth.

        My other thought is to decrease the risk by selling info products
        as well to cover yourself.
        Thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author jan roos
          Originally Posted by anthonyk View Post

          My first thought was that offline products would plummit, but then I
          thought about it and here are my thoughts.

          Businesses that ship products will survive because they will figure out
          how to make a profit by re-packaging (walmart has already done this) their products in a new way. Ex: alot of 12 ounce drinks are now 11 oz,
          the print on packages is now pretty plain, boxes and bags are thinner and
          smaller....

          They will figure out how to get their product out---they will spare
          no expense to figure out how to get their products created, delivered,
          and turn a profit.

          My guess is that amazon and places like it will have explosive growth.

          My other thought is to decrease the risk by selling info products
          as well to cover yourself.
          Thanks!
          Anthony >< } >
          If you are right about Amazon exploding then I will be a very happy camper. You don't think high gas prices will have a huge effect on these retailers?

          Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    In difficult situations people buy only what is indispensable, like bread and milk.

    We have to sell products that help human beings survive. Think about everything you need online, otherwise you’ll die…

    The first thing that comes to my mind is traffic.

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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I hope this happens, infact it is already has.

    That means more desperate buyers. I am in two niches that cater to this. So excellent. If things get better I earn money....if things get worse (and they will i assure you from my previous posts) then I earn money.

    You see as a IM'er and I am talking as a non guru...I am coming to you from someone that learnt how to earn my first $1, the values and tricks are the same when you are earning alot more.... It is about supply and demand. That is why people give up....they enter the wrong niche, come back here and abuse us for leading them astray. But how have we scammed them. They went away with the best advice and probably tried the first crappy niches that lay infront of them DUMB!???? *rolls eyes*

    How about think of the globe as a big box of customs where the handlers come and sort through the things people want sent and received. Some people want this and other that. But soon you will see trends that tell you there are demand in more areas than others.

    Sorry if I am rambling, i guess the point I am trying to get across is that no matter the state of the economy there will always be supply and demand.. Maybe the demand will be different....and some say lower. But really look at the situation there will still be people begging for equiptment and information. Who is there to serve em? US! but you just have to hone in and think what niches will work better. I spend 3 months going back to the last great depression to see what businesses did the best and I was suprised.

    So do not worry, I think if the economy fails money will still be there, and people will be more desperate. That was how many millionaires were made last time in the 1930's and more will be made this time 2011 - 2012 when the economy dwindles and recovers again. It is all about supply and demand. So stop worrying that you are going to lose money and dollar will crash, start worring where the hungry crowds are...find out exactly what they are after and then offer it better than anyone else. Simple commonsense.....but sometimes scratch my head and do not understand why people fail to see this.

    I will leave you with one of my favorite sayings. "History repeats" if that is not a big enough hint for you, then I do not know what is!!???

    Good luck it is a crazy ass world out there.

    Love

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    • Profile picture of the author Ehanson
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      I hope this happens, infact it is already has.

      That means more desperate buyers. I am in two niches that cater to this. So excellent. If things get better I earn money....if things get worse (and they will i assure you from my previous posts) then I earn money.
      I can't believe you hope the economy gets worse than it already is. We're all in business here but a global depression would be very bad for all of us.

      I personally want the economy to get better so consumer confidence gets better.

      Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

      If there's a great depression, how many people will keep their Internet connection as opposed to giving it up in favor of something like, oh, I don't know, FOOOOOOD?
      Very true. When people are out of work for a long time one of the first things to go is the land line and then other monthly expenses. People will slash their budgets and cut things out entirely when they're under financial stress.
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        Originally Posted by Ehanson View Post

        I can't believe you hope the economy gets worse than it already is. We're all in business here but a global depression would be very bad for all of us.

        I personally want the economy to get better so consumer confidence gets better.

        Maybe read my post before blabbing your mouth off and spitting the dummy. I was merely saying I think it will get worse, but I do not care. So should you. The smart breed of marketers will survive in a thriving economy or a crappy one. I am not sure which you belong to according to your post. but I know I will be fine no matter what. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author LauraJames
    When given an option, there are still plenty of people willing to pursue the world of IM. This probably will be the case for many years to come.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      If there's a great depression, how many people will keep their Internet connection as opposed to giving it up in favor of something like, oh, I don't know, FOOOOOOD?
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      • Profile picture of the author jan roos
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        If there's a great depression, how many people will keep their Internet connection as opposed to giving it up in favor of something like, oh, I don't know, FOOOOOOD?
        Good point!
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    We should be in the selling drugs (medicine); selling booze and funeral services business.

    Even in depression people get sick, people drink and people die - those are evergreen businesses
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    • Profile picture of the author BruceWood
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      We should be in the selling drugs (medicine); selling booze and funeral services business.

      Even in depression people get sick, people drink and people die - those are evergreen businesses
      We've already got online drugstores, but I can see the future now: Online barrooms and funeral parlors! LOL I think I'll design a barstool for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    I chose the SEO industry very carefully knowing what was coming ahead. So if you're looking to make sick money in a down economy that's the industry to get in. We have had $75k in sales come in the last three months alone (just from the Warrior Form alone). The worse it gets the more folks will be lining up wanting to invest in web traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jake Gray
    Looks like 9-5 jobs will be more common.
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  • Profile picture of the author scrofford
    If our economy takes a worse dive than it already has, what makes everyone think the IM industry will explode? If people don't have money, they sure ain't going to buy your MMO products! They will buy only what is necessary to survive. That makes me think the IM market will take a dive.

    I've already talked to some people who have seen their sales drop off and it's even now getting worse. Dreaming is good, but don't ride the dream that you will get rich with IM products if the bottom falls out of the economy. Just my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pusateri
    The industries that flourished during the Great Depression (1929-1941):
    • publishing (books/magazines/newspapers)
    • movies
    • radio

    The common theme: information and entertainment/escapism. If another depression hits, that's what people will part with scarce dollars for. IM/MMO will be fine. There were tons of books on making money that sold well during the 1930s.

    In nearly all categories, companies that increased their advertising instead of cutting back did well. They took ever larger pieces of the shrinking pie.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Jan,

      Seasoned IMers should refuse to be influenced by hype and false scarcity. They should simply observe what's afoot and try to learn lessons from it, in my opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Pusateri View Post

      The industries that flourished during the Great Depression (1929-1941):
      • publishing (books/magazines/newspapers)
      • movies
      • radio

      The common theme: information and entertainment/escapism. If another depression hits, that's what people will part with scarce dollars for. IM/MMO will be fine. There were tons of books on making money that sold well during the 1930s.

      In nearly all categories, companies that increased their advertising instead of cutting back did well. They took ever larger pieces of the shrinking pie.
      you my friend have some very good points. I am glad someone actually took 5 minutes out of their day to check about what I said.

      This is only the start of it. I have a list of 24 niches that in past time thrived in the great depressions of old. But I like how you termed this escapism.

      Do some more investigations, you will be surprised at where the money will be, but I must say you have a good start there.
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      • Profile picture of the author jan roos
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        you my friend have some very good points. I am glad someone actually took 5 minutes out of their day to check about what I said.

        This is only the start of it. I have a list of 24 niches that in past time thrived in the great depressions of old. But I like how you termed this escapism.

        Do some more investigations, you will be surprised at where the money will be, but I must say you have a good start there.
        How about sharing that list? If you'd rather not it would be understandable.

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      • Profile picture of the author Pusateri
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        you my friend have some very good points. I am glad someone actually took 5 minutes out of their day to check about what I said.

        This is only the start of it. I have a list of 24 niches that in past time thrived in the great depressions of old. But I like how you termed this escapism.

        Do some more investigations, you will be surprised at where the money will be, but I must say you have a good start there.
        I've been studying the Great Depression and historical cycles for years.

        I thought QE2 would be the Smoot-Hawley of this round, but it looks like we may have dodged that bullet. For now.

        Interesting times.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
    Regardless of what "positive thinkers" want to pretend, it is already harder to sell online, regardless of niche. I'm not saying its impossible but the fact is, IM was booming when the american (and world) economies were booming. It has definitely slowed down. Did you miss the threads about product launches bombing?

    A rising tide lifts all boats and anyone smart will hope (without good reason) for a better economy. EVEN if you're selling make money products in the IM space.
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    • Profile picture of the author Pusateri
      Originally Posted by Bruce Wedding View Post

      Regardless of what "positive thinkers" want to pretend, it is already harder to sell online, regardless of niche. I'm not saying its impossible but the fact is, IM was booming when the american (and world) economies were booming. It has definitely slowed down. Did you miss the threads about product launches bombing?
      There's certainly truth to that, but there's another factor to consider. Over the same stretch of time, online offerings have increased exponentially.

      Not only is there less disposable income, there're too many, too identical, non-differentiated choices. It leads to a sort of repetition blindness and inaction.

      I should amend what I said earlier. IM/MMO that differentiates, that has real USPs will be fine.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by Pusateri View Post

        There's certainly truth to that, but there's another factor to consider. Over the same stretch of time, online offerings have increased exponentially.

        Not only is there less disposable income, there're too many, too identical, non-differentiated choices. It leads to a sort of repetition blindness and inaction.

        I should amend what I said earlier. IM/MMO that differentiates, that has real USPs will be fine.
        You hit the nail on the head there. As long as you're providing real value within the IM/MMO niche, you should do just fine. It has to be actionable information that isn't just another rehashed method, or it could be some sort of service as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pascal Parvex
    A lot of people will be hunting the internet of making money opportunities, so the overall traffic should explode. And many products will be sold.
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      Jan,

      Simple. Create this product:

      "How To Make Money When The USA Goes Into Another Great Depression"

      Make sure your sales page includes only negative news and only include doom and gloom forecasts. Ignore any positive forecasts and opinions of reasonable people.

      BTW, your comment on oil prices doesn't reflect reality. Prices at the petrol pump have very little correlation to oilfield prices. Why is petrol more expensive now?

      When Brent crude dropped from a peak of $143.68 a barrel in July 2008 to $33.73 a barrel 5 months later, did petrol for consumers become 76% cheaper?

      I wonder if there is some middleman taking a huge chunk of the price?

      Clue: Did you know the UK and the USA both originally introduced income tax as temporary measures to fund wars?


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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    I really have no idea. But maybe people will be more cautious on what they ought to buy online. Some shoppers today had their credit card open always but the recession can stop people becoming impulse buyers. Internet Marketing will have less of buyers and more of sellers.

    Andrea
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  • Profile picture of the author daj
    A Great Depression won't end Internet Marketing, but solar flares will eventually...

    "A powerful solar eruption that triggered a huge geomagnetic storm has disturbed radio communications and could disrupt electrical power grids, radio and satellite communication in the next few days, NASA said."

    A strong wave of charged plasma particles emanating from the Jupiter-sized sun spot, the most powerful seen in four years, has already disrupted radio communication in southern China.

    The Class X flash -- the largest such category -- erupted at 0156 GMT Tuesday, according to the US space agency. X-class flares are the most powerful of all solar events that can trigger radio blackouts and long-lasting radiation storms," disturbing telecommunications and electric grids, NASA said Wednesday."

    Good videos about space weather and the changes taking place on this planet: http://collegerama.tudelft.nl/medias...a28ac0c7d1e61d
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    • Profile picture of the author GENIX
      Originally Posted by daj View Post

      A Great Depression won't end Internet Marketing, but solar flares will eventually...

      "A powerful solar eruption that triggered a huge geomagnetic storm has disturbed radio communications and could disrupt electrical power grids, radio and satellite communication in the next few days, NASA said."

      A strong wave of charged plasma particles emanating from the Jupiter-sized sun spot, the most powerful seen in four years, has already disrupted radio communication in southern China.

      The Class X flash -- the largest such category -- erupted at 0156 GMT Tuesday, according to the US space agency. X-class flares are the most powerful of all solar events that can trigger radio blackouts and long-lasting radiation storms," disturbing telecommunications and electric grids, NASA said Wednesday."

      Good videos about space weather and the changes taking place on this planet: Space Weather

      Good point. Even if this is a bit off-topic I consider this a threat myself.

      There were times when scientists and press overreacted but this seems serious. These solar flares are cyclical and happen every 11 years or so but it looks like around 2013 we will face the biggest one yet. If a major solar flare will eventually hit the Earth like they say the satellites will be down and even the electricity, thus bye bye Internet and income.

      What do you guys think about this? Is it another hyped up thing or are you worried?
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      • Profile picture of the author Patrick
        Originally Posted by GENIX View Post

        Good point. Even if this is a bit off-topic I consider this a threat myself.

        There were times when scientists and press overreacted but this seems serious. These solar flares are cyclical and happen every 11 years or so but it looks like around 2013 we will face the biggest one yet. If a major solar flare will eventually hit the Earth like they say the satellites will be down and even the electricity, thus bye bye Internet and income.

        What do you guys think about this? Is it another hyped up thing or are you worried?
        total crap...stop wasting your time worrying about what will happen in the future and do some internet marketing
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  • Profile picture of the author mike959100
    Yes i believe there will be a boom in local markets since it is cheaper to purchase local since there are no shipping costs. I think governmental work programs will also rise. As for internet, thats not going away and i think ecommerce will boom too because it will be a cheaper way to shop prices.
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  • Profile picture of the author entry
    Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

    E-commerce won't be as lucky.

    Elaborate that please

    Ecommorce is online selling right?
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    • Profile picture of the author jan roos
      Originally Posted by entry View Post


      Elaborate that please

      Ecommorce is online selling right?
      What I meant by that was the selling of physical goods such as clothes, electronics and just general junk people buy online every day. If things get real bad and hyper inflation sets in the prices of this type of stuff will go through the roof and because of the high gas prices it will in my opinion be impractical to ship these things individually to consumers all over the country.

      Info products in the right niches on the other hand is instantly downloadable and the prices isn't influenced by the economy or the price of oil.

      This is the reason I would like to diversify a bit and get into a few niches that will thrive in a bad economy just for added protection.

      I would really hate to see that happen because right now things have never been better for me but unfortunately things are not looking so good for our near future if government spending and debt levels continues as it does.

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      • Profile picture of the author GlobalTrader
        During the 1930's Great Depression there was a 25% unemployment rate which means 75% of those who wanted a job still had one. Some say the real unemployment/underemployment rate in the USA right now is around 22% - see a site called shadowstats.com for a real dose of reality and not what the feds feed to us every month.

        I believe all aspects of business will be affected, as they are now, and there will always be opportunity for the entrepreneurs who are willing to adapt to the changing markets. The Internet offers an ongoing opportunity for anyone who will work at it diligently and persistently to succeed at a very low entrance cost, unlike most other businesses.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by GlobalTrader View Post

          During the 1930's Great Depression there was a 25% unemployment rate which means 75% of those who wanted a job still had one. Some say the real unemployment/underemployment rate in the USA right now is around 22% - see a site called shadowstats.com for a real dose of reality and not what the feds feed to us every month.

          I believe all aspects of business will be affected, as they are now, and there will always be opportunity for the entrepreneurs who are willing to adapt to the changing markets. The Internet offers an ongoing opportunity for anyone who will work at it diligently and persistently to succeed at a very low entrance cost, unlike most other businesses.
          The way unemployment is figured today, it is almost ALWAYS shown as less than the real figure. They don't REALLY show unemployed, but those still collecting unemployment. And there IS a lot of underemployment.

          STILL, the US is being artificially stimulated.

          The intent in my previous post can be summed up in two ideas:

          1. DON'T think ANYONE is immune. MOST countries are likely to be affected. Whether that is mexico, greece, or even haiti, russia, or italy, they will likely be affected.
          2. DON'T think a place like paypal, or computers, will be around forever and as easy to use.

          Things have changed a LOT! Some ecommerce packages sold for tens of thousands or more, and now BETTER ones are FREE! One gateway was free!!!!!!!!!! ********FREE********! Redhat bought it, and basically wiped it out. It has a competitor now that costs thousands. Of course, authorize.net and similar companies LOVE this! You see, they just LEASE the gateway.

          UNIX used to cost a FORTUNE! THEN, it effectively became FREE! THEN companies bought up code, and made some parts commercial again. SCO, and NOVELL, tried to DESTROY the free UNIX market! LUCKILY, they FAILED!

          CPANEL used to be FREE! NOW, it costs a fortune, or you can LEASE it!

          TOAD used to be free! NOW, the newest version costs a LOT!

          Maybe you don't see a pattern, but I do.

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          • Profile picture of the author rts2271
            Prep like a Mormon, Arm yourself like the Swiss and diversify your income streams.

            Always remember your neighbor is nine meals away from shooting you in the head for what you have and plan accordingly.

            As far as what happens to IM? I imagine it all depends on if were talking energy crisis or fiscal crisis or worse a combo.
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  • We are still in a depression of sorts.

    You know what sells in a depression?

    IM, cosmetics, alcohol and games.
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    • Profile picture of the author entry
      My aunt is always depressed. when i am with her i feel I am in the depression :p
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger View Post

      We are still in a depression of sorts.

      You know what sells in a depression?

      IM, cosmetics, alcohol and games.
      These are good niches too. But there are alot deeper ones. But these are a great start.
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  • Profile picture of the author richgrad
    Face it... Borders just filed for Chapter 11.. The era of the brick and mortar business models... (at least in the book industry) looks like it's heading for the dinosaur age...

    If US does go through another depression I guess it means good news for internet marketers... In fact, I made most of my money online during the recession period...

    The internet helps cut down costs which in turn are passed on to the end consumers... (just think in terms of paying hosting vs rental) I foresee a future where people are likely to do most of their purchases online
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    I think the US is STILL big enough that, if hurt, it could hurt the world. Didn't 2008 kind of prove that?

    It is ASTOUNDING how some people feel that the internet will ALWAYS be around.... an SO IM will always be viable. That has been proven WRONG!

    1. Some company could go bankrupt, and effectively disconnect a whole section of the internet.
    2. If a person loses their job, they may not be able to wait a week, let alone 5. Besides, their trust of the company being there could VANISH!
    3. Fraud will likely increase, and credit could dry up ON BOTH ENDS! It happened in the 1980s, why not NOW?
    4. Libraries may cut back on services, and people may not have computers.
    5. They will have less money.

    Oil prices affect ONLINE physical goods ALSO.

    BTW people do NOT generally work jobs to make money! If they did, they wouldn't bother. They work jobs to LIVE, and pay the bills. They NEED an amount they can depend on! If you promise them the world, they MAY bite. They will be JUST as dissatisfied. BUT, they will have MORE time on their hands, and less money, so EXPECT them to decline the charges!

    As for the recession? It has been relatively light, for me anyway. Most companies that I have seen have trouble in the past 12 years had trouble BEFORE this recession. My banmk went under because they were heavily into the subprime stuff. A bigger bank bought them up. The earlier bank destroyed my credit so, as part of an improvement plan, I refinanced, so I actually ended up a bit BETTER off. And the US has artificially been helped out. Who knows WHAT will happen later.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author dvduval
    While there are some problems with the world economy, that has always been the case. There are plenty of good things happening too, and I can assure you we will make it through good times and bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulMark
    The industries that flourished during the Great Depression (1929-1941):
    publishing (books/magazines/newspapers)
    movies
    radio

    The common theme: information and entertainment/escapism
    Entertainment and escapism will NEVER vanish. You can build a business on those two in ANY economy.
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    Information is always of value regardless of the economy.
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  • Profile picture of the author indiatext
    In my personal opinion nothing should go wrong with the IM even in that macabre...However, there might be some fluctuation in the paid marketing cost...
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    There are ALWAYS ways to make money - regardless of the economy.

    In fact - while the US dollar goes down, down, down to oblivion - the price of some things goes up, up, up to the sky.

    You just need to make sure you've got the stuff that's going up in price and these problems become opportunities.

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    • Profile picture of the author jan roos
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      There are ALWAYS ways to make money - regardless of the economy.

      In fact - while the US dollar goes down, down, down to oblivion - the price of some things goes up, up, up to the sky.

      You just need to make sure you've got the stuff that's going up in price and these problems become opportunities.

      Andy
      Yeah like silver. Bought at $28 per ounce 3 weeks ago and sitting at 32.5 per ounce today.

      What do you think will thrive IM wise if the SHTF?

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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

        Yeah like silver. Bought at $28 per ounce 3 weeks ago and sitting at 32.5 per ounce today.

        What do you think will thrive IM wise if the SHTF?

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        right.
        I've been buying it since it was $12 an ounce.
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        • Profile picture of the author jan roos
          Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

          right.
          I've been buying it since it was $12 an ounce.
          It's actually a lot of fun as well. Wish I got into it earlier like you did though. I am certain we'll go to 50 this year.

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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    There'll always be methods and opportunities that will allow us to make money, just as what occurred during the last Great Depression in the 1930s.

    Even at its very peak, unemployment hit an estimated 25%. This meant that the other 75% of the population was employed, and had at least some money to spend.

    The key with any kind of business (whether online or offline) is to see where money is exchanging hands, and position ourself in the right area within the marketplace to take advantage of these trends. While we would not necessarily be able to make money the same way as we do today, you can rest assured that there'd definitely be profitable developments and opportunities for us to take advantage of online.

    The marketplace in such a depressed state would be somewhat different from what we see today, so the key here would be to become proactive and get on profitable trends we see as quickly as possible, as opposed to being reactive.

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    • Profile picture of the author jan roos
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      There'll always be methods and opportunities that will allow us to make money, just as what occurred during the last Great Depression in the 1930s.

      Even at its very peak, unemployment hit an estimated 25%. This meant that the other 75% of the population was employed, and had at least some money to spend.

      The key with any kind of business (whether online or offline) is to see where money is exchanging hands, and position ourself in the right position within the marketplace to take advantage of these trends. While we would not necessarily be able to make money the same way as we do today, you can rest assured that there'd definitely be profitable developments and opportunities for us to take advantage of online.

      The marketplace in such a depressed state would be somewhat different from what we see today, so the key here would be to become proactive and get on profitable trends we see as quickly as possible, as opposed to being reactive.

      Paul
      Paul, this exactly the way I see it so from now on I'm not going to get too worried about the economy because I know I'll be able to feed my family with the skills I learned on this great forum.

      Thanks for your insight.

      Jan
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