My life & the possibility of a IM Career???

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Hello everybody,

My life has been a living hell for long as i can remember. I remember when i was transferred too a broken down ghetto High School (99% Mexican).
I was constantly picked on, Teachers were racist towards me, constantly in fights. After a year of this i dropped out of school together(10th grade). I was a emotional wreck (social anxiety & sever depression)& sat on my PC all day playing video games.
At one point i was suicidal, but that phaze has passed me. At the age of 18 my family moved us back to our homeland. Too start fresh, but at the time i still had a very severe case of social anxiety. It was very hard for me too talk to anyone. I eventually moved back too the USA. Falling back into the same patterns i have been doing for the past few years which is playing games and wasting time. Now at the age of 22 my social anxiety seems too be almost gone (not sure why), i have no HS Diploma, no College education, Nada! I think it's time to grow the EF up and do something with my life, but i cant get a real-life job can i? What am i going to do flip burgers???!?!? Im basically tired of living off my parents i wanna be my own man.. So i need your help guys!! Point me in the right direction!

Is it possible for someone of my status too get into IM?
Is it possible to earn a decent living off this?
Where do i start?
What do i need to learn?
What field do you suggest?
Do i need money? If so how much??

Yes, i have been reading the forums and i dont understand half the terminology u guys use.(No knowledge of internet marketing what so ever).

Also just wanted too throw it out their i have always never been fond of school.. So i highly doubt i would go back.


Please dont try to make me buy your e-books, thanks.
#career #life #possibility
  • Profile picture of the author Darren Beecham
    It will take time.Plenty of time.

    Continue to read the forum so you can keep learning the terminology.Ask questions and not just read because you wont learn by only reading.
    When you find something that you understand you can then start to implement.This is how you actually do learn and learn quick.By actually doing.

    good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
    Is it possible for someone of my status too get into IM?
    Yes it's very possible for you. Internet Marketing is one field where not having a solid education won't break you. Although if you don't already, please get ANY job for now, it'll help you trust me.



    Is it possible to earn a decent living off this?
    Yes it is, but it won't happen quickly. This will be the hardest goal you do in you life. You'll need a lot of time, a lot of hard work and plenty of patience. In fact you will probably fail multiple times before you work it all out...that is if you ever do.


    Where do i start?
    Read read read the forum as much as you can, even the older posts. You'll soon know everything you need to know without buying much of anything. If you read the same thing over and over, that's usually because it's true so take note!


    What do i need to learn?
    You first need to get your mind right before learning the technical stuff. You need to tackle this a longterm goal thats going to take a lot of sacrifice, time and effort.


    What field do you suggest?
    Wherever the money is. After doing keyword research (do a search)I'd look to creating a blog using wordpress.org and start writing content. You can then submit your articles to ezinearticles.com after you submit them to your website first. This is not the fastest way to earn a living but will set you off on the right foot.


    Do i need money? If so how much??
    You'll need $10 for a domain name and less than $10 a month for website hosting. If you go the free route, it'll cost you a lot of your time though.

    All in all once you feel you have read and learn enough do the following:

    1. Make sure you target a niche that has interest and buyers
    2. Aim to get targeted traffic (writing articles is one way of doing this)
    3. Work on your site everyday and give things a couple of months to make any money at all.
    4. If you have a site that is making even a small amount, KEEP AT IT! Don't go onto a new shiny idea.

    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author rain21
      Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

      Yes it's very possible for you. Internet Marketing is one field where not having a solid education won't break you. Although if you don't already, please get ANY job for now, it'll help you trust me.



      Yes it is, but it won't happen quickly. This will be the hardest goal you do in you life. You'll need a lot of time, a lot of hard work and plenty of patience. In fact you will probably fail multiple times before you work it all out...that is if you ever do.


      Read read read the forum as much as you can, even the older posts. You'll soon know everything you need to know without buying much of anything. If you read the same thing over and over, that's usually because it's true so take note!


      You first need to get your mind right before learning the technical stuff. You need to tackle this a longterm goal thats going to take a lot of sacrifice, time and effort.


      Wherever the money is. After doing keyword research (do a search)I'd look to creating a blog using WordPress.com and start writing content. You can then submit your articles to ezinearticles.com after you submit them to your website first. This is not the fastest way to earn a living but will set you off on the right foot.


      You'll need $10 for a domain name and less than $10 a month for website hosting. If you go the free route, it'll cost you a lot of your time though.

      All in all once you feel you have read and learn enough do the following:

      1. Make sure you target a niche that has interest and buyers
      2. Aim to get targeted traffic (writing articles is one way of doing this)
      3. Work on your site everyday and give things a couple of months to make any money at all.
      4. If you have a site that is making even a small amount, KEEP AT IT! Don't go onto a new shiny idea.

      Good luck.
      I also agree with these steps, learn first, do some research and then start. Hope you'll be successful.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        I think that's all good, general advice, apart from the comment about Wordpress.com, which is less than optimal (you'd actually be breaching their terms of service if you used a Wordpress.com blog for any commercial purpose at all). A self-hosted Wordpress.org blog would be better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick
    After reading your post, I would suggest you to sell your services to start off. You have written a good post so why not start off by writing articles ?

    Join Odesk.com, Freelancer.com ( for free ).

    Start bidding on article writing services.

    It might be difficult to get the first job since there is too much competition out there, but surely you will get results soon.

    And once you get your first job, you can then keep on building your portfolio there. Your confidence will also get a boost. It is a great feeling when you start something new and get paid the first time ! So you can spend around 3-4 hours on this everyday, and then invest the rest of the day and money on IM.

    Good Luck..
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    • Profile picture of the author corycrabb
      yeah all good suggestions here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by schwarzes View Post

      Start bidding on article writing services.
      Read Redtaffy's post again, Schwarzes. And then again.

      Can you honestly imagine that "bidding on article-writing services" is going to be helpful to him in developing an IM career?!

      The reason so many people end up dropping out of internet marketing in despair is that they're given advice like this, in my opinion. Seriously, telling everyone that they can make money writing articles is not doing them a favour. :rolleyes:

      I wish you well and good luck, Redtaffy, but it's far from immediately apparent that "becoming an article writer" is going to be your way in to internet marketing. Fortunately there are many other possibilities, and I hope and trust others here will find some more practical, probably-useful advice for you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Patrick
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Read Redtaffy's post again, Schwarzes. And then again.

        Can you honestly imagine that "bidding on article-writing services" is going to be helpful to him in developing an IM career?!
        I think you didnt read his post and didnt read the rest of my postings as well. I just suggested him one of the ways he can start making money on the internet.

        IM is not ABCD which you will learn in a few days. It takes time and a lot of research and INVESTMENT to reach there.

        And if he has a source of income, he wouldnt mind in investing and trying things out.

        I hope I made my point clear to you
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyler Abernethy
    Dude. Im feeling about the same as you, Im 18 but i think that selling services on odesk and writing services will get you burnt out and cause you to think a little negatively about Internet Marketing. You will learn all the terminology as time goes on.

    I would suggest that first you get into adsense, and play around with keyword research. Dont buy any domains until you think youve really got a winner. (only buy exact match domains to start) and also always do a google search for the latest godaddy.com discount codes (they are always out there) and you will get your domains for 7.50 rather than 10.

    Ask questions on the forum about ways to get sites ranked and specific problems that you run into. Keyword research is key and also takes a lot of time, so personally i suggest to only focus on that. (article writing services can be HIGHLY undervalued and you will be working for next to nothing((plus writing all the time gets extremely boring, trust me i started a Google News site and that was hel*)))

    I would suggest getting a simple job washing dishes or busing tables so that you have a lot of time to yourself to scheme as well as truly realize how much of a dream come true internet marketing can be.
    It can be an outlet for everyone. You just have to learn your methods that you would like to take..

    I think that keeping your motivation up is very important, as well as your confidence in yourself. Dont EVER UNDERVALUE or UNDERSELL yourself EVER.

    Just as you would in any sport or anything that you have ever succeded in you must keep up the motivation and always keep on top of your game. As well as be willing to adapt because the market is always changing.

    Best Regards,
    Tyler A

    P.S the temp job is good to cover investments, as well as to teach you lessons about how people handle themselves, talk to people, and be professional

    P.S.S - a good thing to do as extra work is find simple things that you could do on fiverr.com ( i put my girlfriend onto that and she takes pictures with signs for $5 a pop haha) so if you can/enjoy editing photos that is always a good route, also selling advice on fiver is a simple way to make money, people even go as far as relationship advice services, you can really get creative, but no matter what stay simple

    P.S.S.S. if you need any help feel free to p.m me or atleast i hope i helped you with this rediculously long post
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyler Abernethy
    also just a few important tools

    SEO - search engine optimazation
    IM - internet marketing
    GAKT - Google Adwords Keyword Tool (search for it in google and get familiar with it)
    WSO - warrior special offer
    SERPS - Search Engine Results Page
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    • Profile picture of the author Patrick
      Originally Posted by TA21 View Post

      also just a few important tools

      SEO - search engine optimazation
      IM - internet marketing
      GAKT - Google Adwords Keyword Tool (search for it in google and get familiar with it)
      WSO - warrior special offer
      SERPS - Search Engine Results Page
      Dude, I think you have not read his post that he is a total newbie in the field. All those stuff that you have mentioned are definitely NOT for newbies. I dont understand why you want to puzzle him with so many things. You are doing nothing but just mixing him up with things which are not even relevant.

      This is the only reason why newbies who want to start an internet career end up doing nothing. If he is going to invest his time learning all that stuff, it will take a LOT of time and he would end up getting bored of it, and honestly, that is not needed here too since he does not even have a domain.

      The BEST way to start is to sell your services somewhere (WHATEVER IT IS) to any of the places..odesk..freelancer...fiverr...There is NO WAY you can build up your confidence unless you see some cash flowing into your account.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tyler Abernethy
        Originally Posted by schwarzes View Post

        Dude, I think you have not read his post that he is a total newbie in the field. All those stuff that you have mentioned are definitely NOT for newbies. I dont understand why you want to puzzle him with so many things. You are doing nothing but just mixing him up with things which are not even relevant.

        This is the only reason why newbies who want to start an internet career end up doing nothing. If he is going to invest his time learning all that stuff, it will take a LOT of time and he would end up getting bored of it, and honestly, that is not needed here too since he does not even have a domain.

        The BEST way to start is to sell your services somewhere (WHATEVER IT IS) to any of the places..odesk..freelancer...fiverr...There is NO WAY you can build up your confidence unless you see some cash flowing into your account.
        ok.. if you read my longer post above you would notice that i clearly highlighted those points..

        It will obviously take time to understand everything.. and those are probably the most common mentioned acronyms(summarizations) that will be used around the forum.

        and i wasnt knocking odesk as a valueable outlet.. i simply said that writing is a certain way to get burnt out.. a real job to earn cash, and spending time learning what IM is all about on this forum are the best ways to start.
        that is simply my opinion.. please do not take offense to that..

        besides.. competing for writing jobs on odesk is always hard, because there are many foreign groups that utalize the site for writing jobs and easy income, and they will always be able to under bid you -- unless it is a person who really needs good english.

        apologies for any mix ups, but dont leave the forum, this is where everything you will ever need to know is located

        Tyler A

        oh and P.S
        i want to point out that im not sure that you read MY entire post.. i outlined a lot of things with a lot of logic that you did not address.. domains was merely at the top.. and i was not the only person to mention domains.. i did however advise him of a cheap way to purchase them if they ever were going to....
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    If what you currently need is some quick cash, you really can't go wrong with providing services like article writing, graphics/banners, etc. - anything that you feel you can comfortably do.

    However, what I would do is limit my time doing this to a maximum of 3-4 hours per day, and use the rest of the day to learn about and implement IM. There are many paths you can take here, and quite possibly the best investment you can make in your IM education would be to join the War Room here.

    You'll have an abundance of material to refer to and learn from - this will be more than sufficient to get you started. What I'd suggest is splitting your time equally between learning and implementing, after you've decided on a course of action.

    Stick to it, and only implement one method/system at a time, especially since you're a newbie. You'll likely get confused and frustrated along the way, which is perfectly natural. Stay the course and don't waver, because if you do this consistently and really focus on implementation, you should start seeing some results within a couple of weeks. Remember that the IM services you offer are just to provide you with some income for the time being, and also give you the means to purchase some required IM resources, tools and possibly software along the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
    Sorry Alexa I figured the .com and .org were the same thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Miranda
    Of course it is possible no matter where you come from! Look at most CEOs... IN any case find a GOOD coach/mentor and run with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    I definitely think that you could make some money here. I am very young myself but am not going to disclose my age. I started out by just reading a lot about how to do it for free on various forums. I then paid some money for a domain name and started a successful site. Now I like to flip domains. The path I started was different from where I am now however it will all work out for you man.
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    • Profile picture of the author jwiggens
      The main thing to know about success in IM is that it takes WORK. There are so many "instant money" products out there that it can be tempting to think that you can make money online without doing much actual work.

      Immerse yourself in this forum and learn from the people here.

      Ask questions and most importantly of all - take action. You can easily get caught up reading about all the different ways to make IM work but you have to be prepared to actual try things and be prepared to fail. Every failure brings you one step closer to success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Emilis Strimaitis
    ANYONE can success in the internet marketing. All you need to do is put some WORK. If you are not afraid of spending time (I'm not saying "some time" or "one hr/day" like gurus do) to move towards goal - making money online, then you can succeed.

    My advices here are simple. Be honest and work hard, and you will start seeing results. Don't try to make money quickly, because easy come easy go...

    Please dont try to make me buy your e-books, thanks.
    I'm not selling anything here, but I believe that you should start here:

    Bum Marketing Method - Free Traffic Tips

    Travis Sago is one of the most honest and successful internet marketing gurus out there. If you are willing to learn he will teach you a lot! Like 90% of his content comes for free also (this course I've linked is 100% free).

    Also my other advice: don't buy im products, until you are actually making money online (the truth is, there is no magic formula that most products promises).

    Hope that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author davidschuller
      Travis Sago is one of the most honest and successful internet marketing gurus out there. If you are willing to learn he will teach you a lot! Like 90% of his content comes for free also (this course I've linked is 100% free).

      I would like to thank you tons for posting this info on here....Travis has taught me more in 2 hrs then I have learned all year....It's amazing that he would give all that info away for free and he keeps it simple. In my eyes this guy is a true garu not just a money mongal.
      Thank you again
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Maybe I am a cruel, mean old guy... I just cannot feel any em/sympathy for posters like this. Sorry.

    Originally Posted by redtaffy View Post

    My life has been a living hell for long as i can remember. I remember when i was transferred too a broken down ghetto High School (99% Mexican).
    I was constantly picked on, Teachers were racist towards me, constantly in fights. After a year of this i dropped out of school together(10th grade). I was a emotional wreck (social anxiety & sever depression)& sat on my PC all day playing video games.
    Yeah, sure... blame the hard childhood for everything.
    Went to highschool in a country where I was an ethnic/linguistic minority. Was picked on, the whole system was racist and discriminatory + oppressive.
    However, finished high school and became perfectly bilingual... and instead of feeling sorry for myself, I considered myself superior because unlike my oppressors I could speak (write, read) in two languages, I was familiar with two cultures.
    At that time we didn't know what social anxiety and other stuff like that was and, most importantly, there were no computers and video games. Instead we worked and learned. A lot.

    Originally Posted by redtaffy View Post

    Nada! I think it's time to grow the EF up and do something with my life, but i cant get a real-life job can i? What am i going to do flip burgers???!?!? Im basically tired of living off my parents i wanna be my own man.. So i need your help guys!! Point me in the right direction!
    What you need is a big kick in the a**...
    Yes, go and flip burgers if you are tired of living off your parents. Yes, go and dig ditches if you want a real-life experience. Yes, stop feeling sorry for yourself and go get a real life job.

    Don't like burger flipping? Then make an effort to learn more and to master something that would allow you to get upper and upper on the ladder.

    Originally Posted by redtaffy View Post

    Yes, i have been reading the forums and i dont understand half the terminology u guys use.(No knowledge of internet marketing what so ever).

    Also just wanted too throw it out there i have always never been fond of school..
    It is OK not liking school. It is NOT OK not liking to learn!
    You don't understand the IM lingo? Neither did I when started.
    Useful tools: search engines, wikipedia, freely available IM dictionaries.
    However, the difference between you and successful internet marketers is they didn't post about their hard childhood, they just went out there, searched and found the right info, absorbed it and took action.

    P.S. After what I have seen and experienced under one of the worst dictatorship of the 20th century; and after what I have seen as a humanitarian worker in war torn countries - no, I am not easily impressed by anybody's "life story". Sorry.
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    • Profile picture of the author Patrick
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      Maybe I am a cruel, mean old guy... I just cannot feel any em/sympathy for posters like this. Sorry.


      Yeah, sure... blame the hard childhood for everything.
      Went to highschool in a country where I was an ethnic/linguistic minority. Was picked on, the whole system was racist and discriminatory + oppressive.
      However, finished high school and became perfectly bilingual... and instead of feeling sorry for myself, I considered myself superior because unlike my oppressors I could speak (write, read) in two languages, I was familiar with two cultures.
      At that time we didn't know what social anxiety and other stuff like that was and, most importantly, there were no computers and video games. Instead we worked and learned. A lot.


      What you need is a big kick in the a**...
      Yes, go and flip burgers if you are tired of living off your parents. Yes, go and dig ditches if you want a real-life experience. Yes, stop feeling sorry for yourself and go get a real life job.

      Don't like burger flipping? Then make an effort to learn more and to master something that would allow you to get upper and upper on the ladder.


      It is OK not liking school. It is NOT OK not liking to learn!
      You don't understand the IM lingo? Neither did I when started.
      Useful tools: search engines, wikipedia, freely available IM dictionaries.
      However, the difference between you and successful internet marketers is they didn't post about their hard childhood, they just went out there, searched and found the right info, absorbed it and took action.

      P.S. After what I have seen and experienced under one of the worst dictatorship of the 20th century; and after what I have seen as a humanitarian worker in war torn countries - no, I am not easily impressed by anybody's "life story". Sorry.
      ...........
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      • Profile picture of the author Tyler Abernethy
        Well. one thing is certain.. you wont make a couple thousand dollars in a week or 2 by writing articles, that much is for sure because not even professional journalists are paid that much..

        i agree that learning is crucial here, and that it takes investment and a lot of trial and error to learn, but the best advice is here and free on the forum, so stick around for awhile and try not to fall under the folly of some salesman whos promising turn key solutions. Absolutely anything that promises a start to finish solution is typically NOT telling you the entire truth..

        Oh and another thing.. if you are going to sell any services on fiverr.com, odesk, or freelancer, then make sure that they are super easy for you, you enjoy them, AND dont spend more than an hour or so a day on them.. otherwise they arent worth it ($5 job on odesk, and youre hired, you spend 1 hour bidding on various jobs ((w/o pay)) plus another hour or 2 writing up the job and application, plus another hour or 2 taking their tests((crucial to make yourself look valuable)) and then you have to keep following that cycle)
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      Maybe I am a cruel, mean old guy... I just cannot feel any em/sympathy for posters like this. Sorry.


      Yeah, sure... blame the hard childhood for everything.
      Went to highschool in a country where I was an ethnic/linguistic minority. Was picked on, the whole system was racist and discriminatory + oppressive.
      However, finished high school and became perfectly bilingual... and instead of feeling sorry for myself, I considered myself superior because unlike my oppressors I could speak (write, read) in two languages, I was familiar with two cultures.
      At that time we didn't know what social anxiety and other stuff like that was and, most importantly, there were no computers and video games. Instead we worked and learned. A lot.


      What you need is a big kick in the a**...
      Yes, go and flip burgers if you are tired of living off your parents. Yes, go and dig ditches if you want a real-life experience. Yes, stop feeling sorry for yourself and go get a real life job.

      Don't like burger flipping? Then make an effort to learn more and to master something that would allow you to get upper and upper on the ladder.


      It is OK not liking school. It is NOT OK not liking to learn!
      You don't understand the IM lingo? Neither did I when started.
      Useful tools: search engines, wikipedia, freely available IM dictionaries.
      However, the difference between you and successful internet marketers is they didn't post about their hard childhood, they just went out there, searched and found the right info, absorbed it and took action.

      P.S. After what I have seen and experienced under one of the worst dictatorship of the 20th century; and after what I have seen as a humanitarian worker in war torn countries - no, I am not easily impressed by anybody's "life story". Sorry.
      I couldn't agree more, Istvan. Self-pity and a general "woe is me" type of attitude will get you nowhere. It is hard to feel sorry for yourself and be in the right frame of mind to succeed as well.

      You need to brush your self-pity aside, and get to work. There is nothing shameful about flipping burgers, so if this is what's required to start then do it. If nothing else, it'll at least give you a solid, consistent income to rely on while learning about IM.

      There is a steep learning curve in IM, and things may take some time to happen, so do not look at it as some kind of panacea for your cash woes right now. It isn't exactly easy to start earning consistent money IM right off the bat, so your immediate need for money might be better served via a regular job for now. Set aside 2-3 hours per day to learn about IM while you're working, and don't forget to implement what you learn as soon as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author CShark
    Man do nothing. First read a lot and try and explore.

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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    dont think you can make $4000 a day by coming here and asking.

    Start off small, go to the warrior forum for hire section, post what you can do, spend a little to bump your ad, and then get some money togother. Once you do that, spend money on domain and hosting and get your business going. Build a list, and spend time nurturing that list. I sweat if you do that it will pay off BIG TIME

    but like i said start off small, like we all had too. Then get a biz, and grow it as big as you can.
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    • Profile picture of the author ed22
      Good luck to you dude!

      My top tip would be to not rush into anything. Think hard and learn as much as you can before you start.

      If you don't know how to get somewhere, there ain't no point in setting off.

      Read this forum, soak it up. Although I had a background in mktg consultancy, I knew little about IM and learnt 90% through reading forums and asking questions. (thanks all)

      You'll need to get to learn the terminology cos its kinda important. If you don't know your proposition articulation from your search engine optimization then you can't expect to win - you'll invest your precious time going up garden paths. (Brit-ism!)

      Good luck though - its fun. I've heard of a guy here in Cardiff who has no qualifications and is on 500k+ a year. He builds email lists and then sells product thru them for others.

      Suggest you learn first
      *Keyword research*

      Can't think of a better base for IM, mebbe SEO

      What do others think? What would you recommend learning first?


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  • Profile picture of the author kianhowe
    Well I would suggest that you try out affiliate marketing first before you venture into more adventurous marketing such as product creation and so as it really doesn't cost much to start affiliate marketing. Good luck!
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    keep on pushing man
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