There's no such thing!

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Certain things don't exist, even if it is popular opinion or accepted or even "sold" that they do. For example, in the Web hosting sales world it is common for hosting companies to offer "unlimited bandwidth". Well, unfortunately, unlimited bandwidth for Web hosting simply doesn't exist...

There's no such thing!

So when it comes to internet marketing, what are the things that you think are commonly believed to exist but actually don't?

My challenge to you is to fill in the blank: When it comes to intenet marketing, there's no such thing as _____________.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemac1
    When it comes to intenet marketing, there's no such thing as a ClickBank screenshot of someone's earnings that you can believe is true.

    Sorry couldn't help it...but can't wait to see some answers from others.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    PASSIVE PROFITS
    Why did I choose that? Actually there are ways to generate passive profits online. But the ways people use that phrase grind on me so much I just had to spit it out. I hear people ask all the time, "If I buy your product can I generate passive profits with it?"

    That's where the rub comes in for me. Some people are just too lazy to do any work at all and won't buy a program unless it promises to make them rich without doing any work. When I hear someone say they have a web site that makes them X number of dollars in passive profits a month, I think to myself, then why don't you get off your ass, put a little work into it and make five times that much with it every month? Really!

    If you look at the big dogs, the guys with the 500k product launches, do you think they are looking for passive income with their launches? NEWS FLASH: Those launches take a hell of a lot of work! When I hear people talk about wanting to generate passive income, a switch clicks off and says that is a losing game plan from the get go.

    Some people may have been conned into thinking they can make a gazillion dollars online with no work, but that is rarely the case. Some people will say that article marketing, AdSense sites, video marketing, etc., product passive profits. But it takes work to get all of those things up and running.

    Steven, sorry--you hit a nerve with me. I needed to get that out and I feel much better now. I am again at one with the universe. --Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
      Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

      Steven, sorry--you hit a nerve with me. I needed to get that out and I feel much better now. I am again at one with the universe. --Mike
      Don't apologize, I love your answer!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin AKA Hubcap
      Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

      When I hear someone say they have a web site that makes them X number of dollars in passive profits a month, I think to myself, then why don't you get off your ass, put a little work into it and make five times that much with it every month? Really!
      Just wondering how you know they're not doing that???
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      • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
        Originally Posted by Kevin AKA Hubcap View Post

        Just wondering how you know they're not doing that???
        Oh, I don't Kevin. Good point. If they are then good for them! --Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Kevin AKA Hubcap View Post

        Originally Posted by mikemcmillan

        When I hear someone say they have a web site that makes them X number of dollars in passive profits a month, I think to myself, then why don't you get off your ass, put a little work into it and make five times that much with it every month? Really!

        Just wondering how you know they're not doing that???

        Probably because we know people and we are people who have had accounts turned off for consuming too many resources.

        I guess it could be argued that they were shutting us down for consuming other resources besides bandwidth, but bandwidth is the easiest thing we can understand...

        I bet it is memory resources, but when they write the letters, it is not that obvious what they are talking about...
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
      Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

      PASSIVE PROFITS
      Why did I choose that? Actually there are ways to generate passive profits online. But the ways people use that phrase grind on me so much I just had to spit it out. I hear people ask all the time, "If I buy your product can I generate passive profits with it?"

      That's where the rub comes in for me. Some people are just too lazy to do any work at all and won't buy a program unless it promises to make them rich without doing any work. When I hear someone say they have a web site that makes them X number of dollars in passive profits a month, I think to myself, then why don't you get off your ass, put a little work into it and make five times that much with it every month? Really!

      If you look at the big dogs, the guys with the 500k product launches, do you think they are looking for passive income with their launches? NEWS FLASH: Those launches take a hell of a lot of work! When I hear people talk about wanting to generate passive income, a switch clicks off and says that is a losing game plan from the get go.

      Some people may have been conned into thinking they can make a gazillion dollars online with no work, but that is rarely the case. Some people will say that article marketing, AdSense sites, video marketing, etc., product passive profits. But it takes work to get all of those things up and running.

      Steven, sorry--you hit a nerve with me. I needed to get that out and I feel much better now. I am again at one with the universe. --Mike
      You are working online but I like to think of it as a delay in payment. You work really hard, then can take a break in some cases and get paid. It is like writing a novel and waiting for sales. There is always initial work.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by FreshDomains View Post

        You are working online but I like to think of it as a delay in payment. You work really hard, then can take a break in some cases and get paid. It is like writing a novel and waiting for sales. There is always initial work.
        This is pretty much how all business functions. The real issue here is that many people are still unconsciously treating IM as a 'job', where they get paid $XX consistently per hour. This is why many give up after just putting in a few hours, because they expect to get paid instantly for their efforts.
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  • When it comes to intenet marketing, there's no such thing as a red push button that earns you 4 digits within 48 hours (that I know off )

    And that doesn't count having a huge list, colouring your 'enter' key red and then sending an auto responder email to your list with a product.

    I'm talking from scratch
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  • Profile picture of the author mindykoch
    A 4G Network...



    Ah - wait - you meant something in INTERNET MARKETING that doesn't exist.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndreTinker
    I've really been kind of bothered by the whole "leaving money on the table" line I keep hearing over and over again. For some reason the people who use that line give leave me with a really uneasy feeling about I.M. (or at least some parts of it.)
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    There is no such thing as "no such thing."

    Somewhere someone has a red "magic" button, a passive income, a "no work," method and anything else we can dream of. Unfortunately most of us just haven't found or figured it out yet.

    Half the fun for me is the quest.

    "Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited..." Albert Einstein.

    George Wright
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    $523,847.93 with no traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Is there such a thing as an internet marketing guru? Anyone ever seen one? :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author mjarel
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Is there such a thing as an internet marketing guru? Anyone ever seen one? :confused:
        hehehehehheheh.... lol good one
        I also never seen such a guru..
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    • Profile picture of the author theemperor
      When it comes to intenet marketing, there's no such thing as a guru

      Having said that, there are plenty of famous IMers who have done a great job of marketing their own name
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      • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
        Originally Posted by theemperor View Post

        When it comes to intenet marketing, there's no such thing as a guru

        Having said that, there are plenty of famous IMers who have done a great job of marketing their own name
        Technically this is inaccurate. guru in this sense only means an expert an industry leader so in that respect gurus do exist. the negative connotation used in association with them however dumbs down the meaning of the word.
        -Will
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by WD Mino View Post

          Technically this is inaccurate. guru in this sense only means an expert an industry leader so in that respect gurus do exist. the negative connotation used in association with them however dumbs down the meaning of the word.
          -Will
          Will, you're absolutely right. The term is pretty much neutral (or even positive in some cases), but in IM it is often used in a derogatory manner with negative connotations. It's a shame, because this word was never designed to convey that meaning originally.

          Paul
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          • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Morgan
            • Instant Riches
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            All of these seem fairly obvious, yet I still see people asking for it all the time, and see even more promising it.
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        • Profile picture of the author theemperor
          Originally Posted by WD Mino View Post

          Technically this is inaccurate. guru in this sense only means an expert an industry leader so in that respect gurus do exist. the negative connotation used in association with them however dumbs down the meaning of the word.
          -Will
          Yes interesting question - what actually is a Guru? I said a Guru doesn't exist because Guru implies (to me) someone who know's it all. Knowing it all is impossible.

          In a way, IM is like the field of science (or even mathematics) where a new "whippersnapper" could make a big discovery that would dumbfound the Gurus and put them in their place . I hope to be such a person!
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          • Profile picture of the author alcymart
            Originally Posted by theemperor View Post

            Yes interesting question - what actually is a Guru? I said a Guru doesn't exist because Guru implies (to me) someone who know's it all. Knowing it all is impossible.

            In a way, IM is like the field of science (or even mathematics) where a new "whippersnapper" could make a big discovery that would dumbfound the Gurus and put them in their place . I hope to be such a person!

            The definition of a Guru is Teacher, although most don't see it as so...

            Bernard
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            • Profile picture of the author paulie888
              Originally Posted by alcymart View Post

              The definition of a Guru is Teacher, although most don't see it as so...

              Bernard
              Bernard, you're absolutely right - I have included the actual dictionary definition for it below.

              a : a teacher and especially intellectual guide in matters of fundamental concern
              b : one who is an acknowledged leader or chief proponent
              c : a person with knowledge or expertise : expert


              Nowhere does it say that the Guru needs to know everything about the subject.

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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    There's no such thing as a pushbutton system that requires just a few clicks to make thousands of dollars overnight - I'm getting so sick of newbies here and also on my list asking questions about it, lol!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    When it comes to internet marketing, there's no such thing as bronzed kangaroo lips. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author kianhowe
    "Make XXX money in a few hours without having to lift a finger"
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  • Profile picture of the author WD Mino
    There is a few things in life that are guaranteed.
    1 death you know your body will one day give out and that will be that

    2 taxes
    every year no matter what you paid last year you have to put out again to the tax man whether it is property or income you pay.

    3 work
    nothing is without effort even getting up in the morning requires you to move your body out of bed. There is ways to automate things but every business requires work whether it is site development product creation reviews etc yes some can be outsourced but not until it is making money.

    So do I think push button things exist well sure cars have push button starters. People have emotional triggers that act like buttons and dogs have buttons they respond to when tempted with food. does it exist in a business platform-NO

    So internet marketing is actually a business that requires work? YES
    -Will
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  • Profile picture of the author ashSimpson87
    When it comes to intenet marketing, there's no such thing as free in making money.
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  • Profile picture of the author alcymart
    When it comes to Internet Marketing, there is no such thing as getting an IRS Check in the mail!

    When it comes to Internet Marketing, there is no such thing as a Pension Fund!

    When it comes to Internet Marketing, there is no such thing as "Knowing it All!

    Bernard
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Morgan
      Originally Posted by alcymart View Post

      When it comes to Internet Marketing, there is no such thing as getting an IRS Check in the mail!

      When it comes to Internet Marketing, there is no such thing as a Pension Fund!

      When it comes to Internet Marketing, there is no such thing as "Knowing it All!

      Bernard

      That's the truth! Never thought about that angle. You forgot

      No such thing as a secure income!
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    • Profile picture of the author grannywriteswell
      Originally Posted by alcymart View Post

      When it comes to Internet Marketing, there is no such thing as getting an IRS Check in the mail!

      When it comes to Internet Marketing, there is no such thing as a Pension Fund!

      When it comes to Internet Marketing, there is no such thing as "Knowing it All!

      Bernard
      That is so true and by far my favorite answer - especially the last one and you could add "sick days" and "paid holidays" although the IMer's will tell you the last one is possible when you make a residual income.

      Ellen
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  • Profile picture of the author wcrane
    scams scams scams
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  • Profile picture of the author fathertime
    There are more than a few things that don't exist in the IM world, and it has really gotten out of hand with some of the claims.

    1 - There is no such thing as a "Push-Button" system (Not even with article submissions or spinners, YOU HAVE TO DO SOME WORK)

    2 - There is no such thing as even a massive 90% responsive emailing list (Mailer-demon will show his face soon enough)

    3 - There is no such thing as the "Lazy Internet Marketer" (A lazy Internet Marketer is a BROKE Internet Marketer, period.)


    GREAT POST!!
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  • Profile picture of the author tonio79
    In internet marketing there is no such thing as complete knowledge.

    As the internet changes constantly, stratgies become outdated, new skills and techniques to learn you can never have a complete knowledge set.

    Focus on what you know works and keep doing it....half the problem is people jumping from one thing to the next and not keeping at it!

    Great post by the way!
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  • Profile picture of the author David Bryant
    "A best way"

    Many new marketers believe that there must be a "best way" to apply marketing strategies - that there must be a best business model, a best theme, a best way to monetize, a best way to promote... as if there was an ultimate "one size fits all" that trumps all and encompasses all things.

    I remember believing that to be true when I first started, and that sentiment alone held me back for months.

    Folks, there isn't a single "best" way. Everything in this business should be approached with testing, tracking, and optimizing. That is because each niche is different, each customer/visitor's demographic is different, which means that your strategy should change to accommodate the niche that you are targeting.

    So, don't look for the "best way." Instead, test everything until you find out which way works best for you and your niche. Get something out there, whether that be a site, a product, or a service - then begin testing EVERYTHING until you can get it to convert the best that you can.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    This is a very interesting thread.

    When it comes to internet marketing, there's no such thing as easily making money by writing ebooks, or by blogging.

    You’ll make money this way only if you are patient and you have enough knowledge in order to write decent content that will really help your readers, and for a very loooong period of time.

    You must learn how to market your ebooks and how to promote your blog.

    You need a LOT of traffic in order to succeed…

    And getting enough traffic online is Very Hard.

    You need Massive traffic in order to make daily sales so that you may make Real Money, after all your expenses with your auto-responder, hosting, ads, improvements, investments, editors, creating new products, unexpected problems, etc.

    If you want to make fast money online, do something else.

    However, don’t think that you’ll manage to make money without seriously studying internet marketing. This is a very important ‘detail’ you should never forget. If you don’t know how to promote your products and your site/blog, etc, you are trying to make money in a desert.





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