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have i found a nugget? why is this .com available

by thedog
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Hi guys, I'm just searching around for different niches. Seems most popular exact product names.com are gone.

I just found 2, and I'm wondering why it's free...

They're gadgets.

Both have just under 5,000 exact monthly searches.

1 has only 93,000 "exact keyword competition" the other has over 300,000

For 1 the top 2 google spots are cnet.reviews, and amazon, the other one is the brands site and amazon. The other spots are pretty weak.

I'm following Ryan Stevenson's niche guide, which insits it's really important to find a .com... this is why I'm finding it hard to find exact.com's.

Anyway, I'm just wondering why these are free... is it because cnet's number 1 for one of them?
#found #nugget
  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    It could be because they have trademarked names in them which would mean acquiring those domains could be illegal. It's hard to say without knowing the exact domain names.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      I'd also add onto what Will said, it's not really relevant how many competing pages you have, it's what the people on the first page, for the top ten results are doing and if you can beat them, that matters. What page do you want to be on? I like the first page, if I can get on there I don't care if there are a gazillion competing pages.

      ...and naturally it's important how many searches you get for the phrase, as you've said.

      I'd also add, as someone who's never noticed a difference between .com, .info, .net or .org, I whole heartedly disagree with the guy your following advice off.

      Test and see what works, don't just follow blindly.
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      • Profile picture of the author thedog
        Ye, I agree Richard.. I'm seeing a pattern of high authority sites in the top 5, cnet, amazon, their own brand... this must be why they're being left alone.

        I have found a .com for

        PopularMakePopularItem.com

        around 2000 exact monthly searches, and the competition is allot lower... I think I'll go with this, plus there's around 50 products on amazon.
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by thedog View Post

          Ye, I agree Richard.. I'm seeing a pattern of high authority sites in the top 5, cnet, amazon, their own brand... this must be why they're being left alone.

          I have found a .com for

          PopularMakePopularItem.com

          around 2000 exact monthly searches, and the competition is allot lower... I think I'll go with this, plus there's around 50 products on amazon.
          Hi,

          I'm not saying don't, I'm just saying if you want to be on the top page, look at those on the top page and don't necessarily think you can only get there with a .com

          By all means, for the price of a domain and how little you lose, best off buying it.

          You can always sell it.

          I assure you I wasn't trying to discourage you, just trying to give a sense of direction and my own findings.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        I'd also add onto what Will said, it's not really relevant how many competing pages you have, it's what the people on the first page, for the top ten results are doing and if you can beat them, that matters. What page do you want to be on? I like the first page, if I can get on there I don't care if there are a gazillion competing pages.

        ...and naturally it's important how many searches you get for the phrase, as you've said.

        I'd also add, as someone who's never noticed a difference between .com, .info, .net or .org, I whole heartedly disagree with the guy your following advice off.

        Test and see what works, don't just follow blindly.
        .com is king. You will hear it everywhere you go. When someone says a doman name they will natural say .com after it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by FreshDomains View Post

          .com is king. You will hear it everywhere you go. When someone says a doman name they will natural say .com after it.
          Well I guess my seven years in this game and jolly good lifestyle are nothing.

          I'm sure you know best.

          Though as someone that has personally proven that theory wrong time and again, I can't fall in to your unproven "you will hear it everywhere" theory.

          I don't listen to the masses, I test and see for myself. :rolleyes:

          Still, what do I know?

          One more point -

          I have an information site, you think .com not .info?

          I have a UK site, you think .com not .co.uk?

          I have an organistion, you think .com not .org?

          Hmmm, like I said, you know best... after all, you'll hear it "everywhere you go....."

          I wish you luck with your business.
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        • Profile picture of the author petevamp
          Originally Posted by FreshDomains View Post

          .com is king. You will hear it everywhere you go. When someone says a doman name they will natural say .com after it.
          Dot com is only king to the owners them self. In terms of ranking for a domain I have actualy found it ten times easier to rank a .org then a .com domain. The reasoning for this is because google and the other serps look at .org domains as non profit organizations where almost all .com domains are seen as strictly sellers.

          If you where a search engine what would you rather have at the top. One or two sellers and a informational domain or all dot com domains. Personally I like seeing additional options and in most cases you will always see a .org up in the front page along with all the dot coms but if you provide valuable content regarding that product and all your links point to you through that ancor text there is no reason why you can not rank in the top page for any domain just because of the extension at the end.

          So you should really get that dot com is king out of your head. For yes I love dot coms to but you can rank just as well with a dot org and dot net as you can for the dot com. Plus in ssome cases it is actually easier to rank the dot org then it is to rank the dot com.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      It could be because they have trademarked names in them which would mean acquiring those domains could be illegal. It's hard to say without knowing the exact domain names.
      If they are gadget names then you will have trouble because they likely have trademarks attached and I would definitely stay away in that case!
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  • Profile picture of the author DPWeb
    If by free you mean available in that last sentence, it might be because the name is trademarked. You didn't say what the keyword was, but if a domain like that isn't taken, it may be a violation of some sort. Some companies will not allow you to target their brand as a keyword and things like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronywilliam
    i'd recommend that you buy them.. worst case scenario you are out of $10-15 ... not a biggy... I myself own over 140 domains.. buying domains is never a bad idea!
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  • Profile picture of the author christopher jon
    Also because there are millions of "gadgets". You can't expect the .com of every gadget ever made to be taken.

    But WillR summed it all up. You'd be buying those domains at your own risk. In some cases the manufacturer / trademark owner doesn't care as long as you are promoting their products in a positive manner while there are others who don't want 3rd party sites messing around with their intellectual property.

    As ronywilliam said, if you did purchase those domains and at a later date the trademark owner does decide to shut you down, you're only out $10 and some time.

    How do you like to gamble? Risk vs. Reward.
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  • Profile picture of the author ExploringInfinity
    Depending on the product, I would still go for it.

    a lot of searchers are going to skip cnet (if they know what it is).. this is why it would dependon the exact product you're talking about, but most people will skip a Cnet review , but amazon might be a little tougher.

    If the rest of the competition is weak, and the product offers decent commissions, I would grab them up quick!
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  • Profile picture of the author hobsdv
    You may have just stumbled on a keyword no one has looked for yet.

    There are thousands of niche keywords still out there.

    My latest is a .com with 11'000 Global searches and 9'000 competing pages, plus the AvgCPC is $6.11
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