Proof that article marketing is NOT dead

by WebPen 50 replies
So I was surfing around today and found a #1 listing from Ezinearticles on Google. I took a look then scrolled down to the bottom...

It had over 700,000 views...

So now I was curious, and looked at the writer's account:



Platinum Author who joined April 12, 2007
  • 1,746 Live Articles
  • 6,359,787 Views
So if he had a 20% CTR, that's well over 1 million views from articles.

Think about those CPC costs in the weight loss niche
#main internet marketing discussion forum #article #dead #marketing #proof
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  • Profile picture of the author Mangozoom
    Yep I know ... article marketing pays for my holidays
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  • Profile picture of the author jbo
    Done correctly and if its written about something people want you can do really well, the problem is all the people who say that it is dead don't do it properly.
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    • Profile picture of the author CatherineC
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      Originally Posted by jbo View Post

      Done correctly and if its written about something people want you can do really well, the problem is all the people who say that it is dead don't do it properly.
      If I had to guess, I'd say that 90% of people doing it now, even on this board, are doing it wrong and not making much for their efforts.

      So by that definition, yes, Article Marketing is long dead. Definitely.

      But if you follow some of the sharper minds on the topic, especially those preaching for all the world to hear about "quality" and "syndication" it IS possible to make it work financially no question.
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  • Profile picture of the author EricShaun
    Yeah, I need to do more of it
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  • Profile picture of the author jeremysteam
    Aww Man, No Article Marketing Is No Where Close to dead, I just made 2 sales off an article that I posted 4 months ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jermaine Tabor
    Those are big numbers. AM is not dead. I still have articles from 4 yrs ago that still get picked up and re-posted.
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  • Profile picture of the author George185
    Those are definitely some impressive numbers. Can't say I sport anything like that, but I do earn a decent supplemental income with article marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarahberra
    Wow! Article marketing is not dead, but you can't just write articles and expect them to alwyas stay at the top. You actually need to build back links to your articles so that they can maintain ranking. It's hard to figure out the perfect system.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by sarahberra View Post

      Wow! Article marketing is not dead, but you can't just write articles and expect them to alwyas stay at the top. You actually need to build back links to your articles so that they can maintain ranking. It's hard to figure out the perfect system.
      EZA will love that. Nothing like building backlinks for the biggest directory in town.

      You could on the other hand, build backlinks to the site that the EZ article points to, that way your site may become the authority and may not disappear as fast as the article itself.

      Food for thought?
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  • Profile picture of the author mech111
    Nice numbers. Article marketing is definitely not dead. People just need to be patient to see the results of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Little
    I know a guy that pulls a couple grand a week from article marketing, and he hasn't posted a new article in like 6 months lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author kianhowe
    It all comes down to how good your contents are and how competitive the niche is! Its still all hardwork though. Look at the top author for example, 1.7k articles submitted in 3 years. That shows a lot of commitment and hard work
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by kianhowe View Post

      It all comes down to how good your contents are and how competitive the niche is! Its still all hardwork though. Look at the top author for example, 1.7k articles submitted in 3 years. That shows a lot of commitment and hard work
      hey,

      I have over 1000+ articles on EA and other directories.

      When I had like 20, i would get maybe one optin a day to my squeezes.

      But now, I can get up to 60 a day.....LOL.

      So imagine if i post another 2000+ high quality articles. Which I plan on doing by the way...

      so article marketing dead.... nup ....no way hosea.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        hey,

        I have over 1000+ articles on EA and other directories.

        When I had like 20, i would get maybe one optin a day to my squeezes.

        But now, I can get up to 60 a day.....LOL.

        So imagine if i post another 2000+ high quality articles. Which I plan on doing by the way...

        so article marketing dead.... nup ....no way hosea.
        Agreed. It's just that the majority of people don't want to put in the effort to write articles consistently, and they also think they should get instant results from doing this, which almost never happens. This is a good thing, because that just means there's more traffic for the rest of us who do understand the power of article marketing!
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  • Profile picture of the author luckyshah290
    Okay ... Now That's Something Cool ..

    I think now i have to work hard to get articles for my sites ..

    It definitely works ....
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  • Profile picture of the author Ping Liang
    Of course, it's not dead in general. But it might be for a specific individual.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    Maybe I am jaded, but I often tend to think that everytime I see an article in EZA that has an astronomical view count, that the author paid for those views. Whats really funny is when the article is a week old and it has over 100K views.

    Back on topic,

    article marketing will never get old, as long as you do it properly.

    Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
      Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

      Maybe I am jaded, but I often tend to think that everytime I see an article in EZA that has an astronomical view count, that the author paid for those views. Whats really funny is when the article is a week old and it has over 100K views.

      Back on topic,

      article marketing will never get old, as long as you do it properly.

      Chris
      Couldn't have said it better myself. I never believe in views anymore (unless it's an article dated back in 2005). We all know it's super easy to inflate that stuff. I think I saw one the other day that was a couple days old and already had 60k. Yeah......and I'm sure those views were real.

      It's all about the CTR and the conversions! Other than that, views are just views and nothing more.
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  • Profile picture of the author morsh
    Thanks for this useful thread, This is what I need cause I'm in the mid of confusion about article marketing
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  • Profile picture of the author JordanFrancis
    Well if anything, these examples show that article directories, in particular EZA, are not dead more so than "article marketing" itself.

    It's no surprise, though, really. Not when you consider how many people promote their content on the directory, instead of promoting their content on their own site. Worse, others put their content on the directories exclusively.

    I have done all of the above. But I've learned my ways (I swear.)

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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    The only people who say things are dead are:

    1. People who can't do it
    2. People who want you to buy something else
    3. Widows

    They're all a miserable bunch, and need all the sympathy they can get.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

      The only people who say things are dead are:

      1. People who can't do it
      2. People who want you to buy something else
      3. Widows

      They're all a miserable bunch, and need all the sympathy they can get.
      Oh come on Nick :confused:

      Some widows are positively overjoyed!

      1 and 2 are spot on though
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      • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        Oh come on Nick :confused:

        Some widows are positively overjoyed!

        1 and 2 are spot on though

        But keep in mind...they are overjoyed announcing their husband is dead...so after all, Nick is right.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarksWineClub
    That's an impressive click through rate....I wish I could send even 25% of that rate toward my wine site from articles, which I can usually rank on page 1 for an individual winery
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  • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
    I'm not even sure how Article Marketing can die... unless people forget how to read, it ain't happening.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by trytolearnmore View Post

      I'm not even sure how Article Marketing can die... unless people forget how to read, it ain't happening.
      yes I get about 60 optins a day from my 1000+ articles just sitting on EA.

      so how can that be dying....LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        yes I get about 60 optins a day from my 1000+ articles just sitting on EA.

        so how can that be dying....LOL
        I hate to break it to you, but that actually kind of sucks. If you spent 30 minutes writing each article, that means you spent 500 hours producing those articles, and all you have to show for it is 60 optins a day? That's twelve 40 hour work weeks.....for 60 optins a day.

        Ugggh.

        And it gets even worse if you actually spent an hour or more and produced decent articles.

        Yeah, no thank you.
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        • Profile picture of the author alexanderpoole9
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          Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

          I hate to break it to you, but that actually kind of sucks. If you spent 30 minutes writing each article, that means you spent 500 hours producing those articles, and all you have to show for it is 60 optins a day? That's twelve 40 hour work weeks.....for 60 optins a day.

          Ugggh.

          And it gets even worse if you actually spent an hour or more and produced decent articles.

          Yeah, no thank you.
          60 opt-ins a day sounds alright by me. Why downgrade what he has accomplished?
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        • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
          Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

          I hate to break it to you, but you spent 500 hours producing those articles, and all you have to show for it is 60 optins a day? That's twelve 40 hour work weeks.....for 60 optins a day.

          Yeah, no thank you.
          Yeah working hard for 12 weeks to produce a fulltime income that will provide for you for the rest of your life is so totally not worth it.:rolleyes: Having 60 optins a day on autopilot which equals nearly 22,000 a year is so not worth it...

          I bet he would rather bitch and moan about the hard work and instead work a job for the next 50 years....
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  • Profile picture of the author tmdassc
    I have to agree that article marketing is not dead, and you'd be hardpressed to convince me that it ever will be dead. Information search is the second largest online activity, ranking only behind email... and articles are information.

    However, with the sweeping changes in the noted article directories, and within the big "G" and other search engines, more people find it difficult to get their less than quality junk accepted. Therefore, they say article marketing is dead.

    Personally, I do not use the article directories any longer because I found something better for my article marketing efforts... online magazines. Mind you, I did not say ezines, but actual online magazines. It is akin to getting your articles accepted and published in print magazines, but without a lot of the headaches.

    I have written articles in the top ranked online magazine that have made it to page one in google in a matter of hours... unlike eza and others where you would still be waiting to get accepted.

    I, like many other Warriors have found that writing articles for online magazines can ge you massive backlinks instantly, manke money almost as soon as your article is published, grab subscribers, and generate residual income.

    Article marketing dead? NO! The way you market with articles now? YES!
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    • Profile picture of the author alexanderpoole9
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      Originally Posted by tmdassc View Post


      Personally, I do not use the article directories any longer because I found something better for my article marketing efforts... online magazines. Mind you, I did not say ezines, but actual online magazines. It is akin to getting your articles accepted and published in print magazines, but without a lot of the headaches.
      How'd you get started submitting to online magazines?
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    • Profile picture of the author VOnline
      Originally Posted by tmdassc View Post

      Personally, I do not use the article directories any longer because I found something better for my article marketing efforts... online magazines. Mind you, I did not say ezines, but actual online magazines. It is akin to getting your articles accepted and published in print magazines, but without a lot of the headaches.
      I'm interested in that as well. I know a couple online magazines in my niche, but never tried to get any articles/ads to them. Anyway to get started?
      PM me please!
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        The major print magazines and even most newspapers usually have online editions.

        Magazine Directory - Magazines Online

        It's actually nowhere nearly as easy to get your articles published as the article directories such as with EZA or niche ezines, but the longevity, authority and traffic are far superior.

        You may also check out writersmarket.com which lists specific magazine publishers, the types of articles for which they are seeking, and article submission guidelines.
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          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          The major print magazines and even most newspapers usually have online editions.

          Magazine Directory - Magazines Online

          It's actually nowhere nearly as easy to get your articles published as the article directories such as with EZA or niche ezines, but the longevity, authority and traffic are far superior.

          You may also check out writersmarket.com which lists specific magazine publishers, the types of articles for which they are seeking, and article submission guidelines.
          Thanks for these 2 resources.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by alexanderpoole9 View Post

            Thanks for these 2 resources.
            The writing standards are higher by several orders of magnitude for these magazines, but with subscribers often hitting into millions, it just takes a few articles to effectively compete in even the most hotly competitive niches.
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              Originally Posted by myob View Post

              The writing standards are higher by several orders of magnitude for these magazines, but with subscribers often hitting into millions, it just takes a few articles to effectively compete in even the most hotly competitive niches.
              I wasn't even going to ask about tightened editorial standards with these magazines. I'm more an admirer of great writing rather than one who partakes in it. It's nice to know avenues like this are open down the road if I decide to churn out some remarkable articles by way of purchasing them!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
    Someone said the other day that Google was finished!

    Someone else said the world was going to end soon, or was that back at Y2K.

    I'm sure there is a meteor going to hit soon anyway, so what's the point doing articles...

    We all better give up now I suppose....
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    There are a lot of things online that are not really dead but just
    not as alive as they use to be. So they are alive but it takes a
    lot more to keep them out of the grave.

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  • Profile picture of the author VOnline
    Lots of $$$ for him.
    He could prob do this for a living having 1746 articles and counting.

    Don't believe article marketing can die. Everything you can is an article or can be an article. Articles can evolve, but never die out.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotlinkz
    More concrete proof that you must do the testing yourself. It will teach you a whole lot more than any bantering about what doesn't work. Consistent, well-planned article marketing campaigns still work for those who put forth the effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author CatherineC
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    Notes of caution from someone who makes part of her living from statisitcal anlysis:

    1. No one has any idea what the true views are on this EZA account.

    For years, including SEVERAL top-selling WSOs, the concept of paying for third-party traffic to generate false views of EZA articles was practiced (and still is).

    Don't assume the views are legit. Doesn't mean they aren't, don't get me wrong here. But if you're a lurker don't suddenly stop whatever IM method you're pursuing because you're falling for some possibly-inflated figures.

    2. BEWARE advice coming from people in these "pro-article marketing" threads that have ACTIVE WSOs for sale about articles, article-marketing, or anything else related to an obvious reason why they would pimp it as an IM method to focus on.

    Again, doesn't mean they're full of **** by any means, but you must always be on guard.

    3. At the end of 2008, Ezineartciles had a total of just over 2M articles live and on the directory. It took them nearly a decade to achive that figures. As of today, they're close to 6M...just a few years later.

    What this tells you is that people who are throwing hundreds of low-quality articles at the wall hoping some of it will stick through outsourcing have had to increase their efforts to make the same amount of money as previosuly.

    You can infer from this that changes are happening to the CORE of the method.

    Does this mean it's failing? Not necessarily. Does it mean you're going to have to be talented and have a competitive advantage to make article marketing work? Possibly.

    But it does show conclusively that this method is being pursued by an ever-increasing amount of people who are trying to overcome a poor sales funnel by throwing an ever-increasing amount of low quality outsourced articles into the machine.

    Just some thoughts to ponder, but it is VERY easy to be led astray as a newbie or lurker by threads like these...that only see the top layer of the surface and offer only cursory examination of what lies beneath.
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  • Profile picture of the author theresagas
    Article marketing will never never die and will be the most effective in all kinds of seo
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  • Profile picture of the author NateRivers
    The main benefit of article marketing now is backlinks. You should be posting the articles to your own site, and once it gets indexed, then post to the directories. You want your own site to be what's showing up in google, not an EZA.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sunnybeach7
      I'm tempted to ask... you wanna hand over that keyword?

      Seriously though... If I were you, I'd take that keyword and run with it. If you have any experience in SEO, I'd bet you would be able to outrank that article, or at least come dang close.
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  • Profile picture of the author veenafurtado
    People are now faking hits to their articles by changing IPs and giving hits.
    Also - they are buying hits by the thousands every month.
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