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LilBlackDress

13 years ago

Thanks for the heads up on that. Where are the settings to allow or not allow echeck?

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Snow_Predator

13 years ago

fool me once shame on you
fool me twice shame on me

pretty sure that's how it goes anyway :p

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Just a note for folks who might think this is common...

I rarely have any trouble with e-checks. I've had one that bounced in the past 4 years, and the woman emailed me asking how to fix it. Some sort of glitch with her bank, apparently. She did correct it, and without me ever having to ask. Other than that, it's the same as any other transaction as far as I'm concerned.

Some people do have regular problems like you've described, though. I'm not sure what causes the difference, but it's real. Some shopping cart software, like RAP, will hold delivery until the check clears. If you run into this often, that might be one way to go.

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Alan Petersen 13 years ago

DLGuard marks those payments as "pending" and won't send the download link until payment is cleared. So like Paul mentioned there are tools out there so you don't have to say no to all e-checks.
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Joshua Rigley Banned 13 years ago

I'm wondering, what is the point of an e-check?
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Colin Palfrey

13 years ago

Here is how I blocked them for good.

Open up PayPal and click on "Profile". Next click "My Selling Tools" and then "Block Payments".

From there you can turn echecks off, and block the scheming turds from doing it again.

Paul,

I appreciate that for some people they may work well, but I like to head this sort of thing off as soon as possible, and after costing me money I will simply block it all together.

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Colin Palfrey

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dgordon76

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Colin Palfrey

Here is how I blocked them for good.

Open up PayPal and click on "Profile". Next click "My Selling Tools" and then "Block Payments".

From there you can turn echecks off, and block the scheming turds from doing it again.

Paul,

I appreciate that for some people they may work well, but I like to head this sort of thing off as soon as possible, and after costing me money I will simply block it all together.

Cheers,
Colin Palfrey

Thank you for the heads up on that Collin. Very much appreciated.

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Diane S

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Colin Palfrey

Here is how I blocked them for good.

Open up PayPal and click on "Profile". Next click "My Selling Tools" and then "Block Payments".

From there you can turn echecks off, and block the scheming turds from doing it again.

Thanks for the instructions! I am running to my paypal profile now...

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Launchevity

13 years ago

So sorry this happened to you - I've been quite lucky as I haven't experienced this yet but I guess I've just been lucky. DLGuard sounds like the perfect solution. I really have to look into that!

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sbucciarel

Banned 13 years ago

Yeah ... DLGuard is the solution to that problem. You can take echecks but they don't get the download until it clears.

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Kwerk

13 years ago

Since ClickBank also allows Paypal payments, is there a way to tell CB which Paypal methods I as a seller will allow?

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tpw

13 years ago

I have taken echecks over the years as well. I have never had an incident with echecks at all.

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Colin Palfrey

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

I have taken echecks over the years as well. I have never had an incident with echecks at all.

Yes but my point was, if he got away with it once he will be trying it with other WSOs. Especially as he is a regular here.

It was only my wife that restrained me from jumping on a plain last time something like this happened, so I have to cut off the possibility of it happening again.

Admittedly this is nowhere near as bad as the piracy issue, but it really annoys me all the same. I am a Warrior in the truest sense, and constantly have to fight the edge to kick butt.

DLGuard will be set up by tonight and echecks are already blocked. This may upset some people, but continuing to rip me off is going to cause someone alot more irritation before long.

Cheers,
Colin Palfrey

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Colin,

Dude, you need to learn to meditate or something. Or maybe medicate, with some of your island's lovely liquid exportables. Our Mr Riley could offer some suggestions on those lines, I suspect.

I had a refund request today you'd have had a canary over. Guy said he already had most of the stuff in the ... wait for it ... folder full of unadvertised bonuses. As in, stuff he didn't even know he was getting when he hit the order button.

I just gave him his refund and had a chuckle over how easily distracted some people are. Or how easily distracted they think I am. Whatev...

Ooooo. Shiny!

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Michael Mayo

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Colin,

Dude, you need to learn to meditate or something. Or maybe medicate, with some of your island's lovely liquid exportables. Our Mr Riley could offer some suggestions on those lines, I suspect.

I had a refund request today you'd have had a canary over. Guy said he already had most of the stuff in the ... wait for it ... folder full of unadvertised bonuses. As in, stuff he didn't even know he was getting when he hit the order button.

I just gave him his refund and had a chuckle over how easily distracted some people are. Or how easily distracted they think I am. Whatev...

Ooooo. Shiny!

Paul

Paul, I've had the same thing happen before and after I refunded the
person two days later he contacted me to tell me that my software
program didn't work...Duh.. (I disabled it when I refunded). I repled
informing him that it happened because he received a refund.

He replied that he tried to repurchase the product and couldn't.
(I had blocked him)

I sent him a 10 day trial version Free for him to try and unblocked him from
being able to purchase. This guy has purchased nearly everything I have
created since...lol

Gotta Love It, You just never know which way the wind will blow?

The value of this customer is nearly $450.

Have a Great Day!
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Colin Palfrey 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Mayo

Gotta Love It, You just never know which way the wind will blow?

Michael,

Well if this one contacts me again I shall phone him up, drop trow, and he can hear exactly which way the wind blows.

Cheers,
Colin Palfrey
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Colin Palfrey

13 years ago

Paul,

I am busy self medicating with Guinness as we speak, and already the world looks better.

I don't actually mind refund requests and they have never bothered me. It is the sneakiness and grrr...back to the medication I think!

Cheers,
Colin Palfrey

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Ian Malone

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Colin Palfrey

I just got caught with yet another scam, and I am unamused.

Basically I forgot to set it so that people couldn't buy one of my products through a PayPal e-check.

You guessed it, they buy with an e-check, return to merchant and download the product...then cancel the e-check!

So I thought I would mention this on here so that you could all check your download set-up, just in case.

On the bright side I do now have his PayPal email address and name, and can make things difficult for him in the future. :rolleyes:

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Colin Palfrey

I personally would send him a polite email explaining the problem as it might be a genuine issue and might be able to get resolved if you get no joy from it then i would report them to paypal and they will look into it for you

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mysterrio

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Colin Palfrey

I just got caught with yet another scam, and I am unamused.

Basically I forgot to set it so that people couldn't buy one of my products through a PayPal e-check.

You guessed it, they buy with an e-check, return to merchant and download the product...then cancel the e-check!

So I thought I would mention this on here so that you could all check your download set-up, just in case.

On the bright side I do now have his PayPal email address and name, and can make things difficult for him in the future. :rolleyes:

Cheers,
Colin Palfrey

COLIN,

I just had a problem with Paypal and it was with a hosting service subscription. They made me sign up to give them money every year - as a renewal payment.

Anyway- both the company and paypal did give my money back BUT - here is what paypal told me and I think it is important
Paypal said: "If it is a product we can refund it - but if it is a service we can not as it is not covered in the buyer protection."

So my thought would be - find a way to sell a SERVICE and includethe product as a part of that service.

Just a thought....any one else have anything to say here?

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khut

13 years ago

I just had something similar happen to me for the first time today. I sold a personalized video to someone a few days ago, the buyer sent me an email thanking me for the video and speed of delivery, but then today I received the following message from paypal

"We were recently notified that a payment you received was reversed by the buyer's bank."

I'm not sure if this was caused by lack of funds, or if the buyer was able to reverse the funds somehow?

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shuvo

13 years ago

Feeling sorry for the incident happened to you and thanks for sharing it here and I hope it will make us more cautious.

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AverageGuy

13 years ago

unfortunately, I had many problems with echecks. so, I just disabled echeck. maybe just I'm unlucky.

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konradbraun

13 years ago

Hmmm... I had a guy purchase SEO services from me and he would stack it up and get a ton of services at once. I was pleazed to see this... only to find out that his echeck bounced AFTER my worker had sent him all the reports.

Somehow this happened again... I guess the worker did not realize that this same guy had done it before... so he was going the extra mile for this guy and treated him like a regular paying customer. Again... after reports were sent... his payment bounced.

I was getting really irritated and basically flagged this guy in my system... I lost hundreds of dollars (probably close to a grant).

Anyways... he shows up the third time... this time he gets upset that his order is not getting done in time. We purposefully dragged it out JUST in case his payment bounced again.
Well... turns out that this time the payment went through just fine. What am I to do now?

Aside from that though I agree with Paul: with 1000s of transactions so far... I really can't say I have had any problems with that.

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AverageGuy

13 years ago

Originally Posted by konradbraun

Anyways... he shows up the third time... this time he gets upset that his order is not getting done in time. We purposefully dragged it out JUST in case his payment bounced again.
Well... turns out that this time the payment went through just fine. What am I to do now?

why don't you ask this "client" clear the first 2 echecks first?

david

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ex9to5guy

13 years ago

you live and you learn...time to move on and make $$

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GarrieWilson

13 years ago

If you postpone delivery when people use echecks, make sure you mention it on the sales page and even tell about instant payments with PayPal and echecks.

I've had people get mad over it a few times and I don't really blame them.

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Michael Mayo

13 years ago

Originally Posted by GarrieWilson

If you postpone delivery when people use echecks, make sure you mention it on the sales page and even tell about instant payments with PayPal and echecks.

I've had people get mad over it a few times and I don't really blame them.

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Gary, Good point!
I do this on sites where I accept e-checks.

I allow them to enter their info and proceed to check out. During this
transition time I remind them that the Download link will be delivered when
the transaction is completed. I also inform them that the transaction may
take between 3-5 business days and they will receive a confirmation email
when the transaction has been approved by their bank.

To me, It seems like a no brainer for both parties involved.

Hey, I could be wrong. :rolleyes:

Have a Great Day!
Michael

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Kevin Tan

13 years ago

Don't be so hard on yourself. Just learn from
the lesson and move on. There are always
going to be cheap people out there like the
one you encountered. Don't let them spoil
your mood.

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Sunnybeach7 13 years ago

Thanks for the tip.

Not having used PayPal yet in this way, that would be something I wouldn't have known to look for.
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Richard Van

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin.

Don't be so hard on yourself. Just learn from
the lesson and move on. There are always
going to be cheap people out there like the
one you encountered. Don't let them spoil
your mood.

Didn't you see, he's drinking a lovely pint of the brown, from the very island that creates it in it's most beautiful form.

He will be fine now, of that I am positive.

Cheers Colin, I'll be in Dublin for St Patricks. I'm not full Irish but half and half. Dads coming with me, Mum will stay at home!

Now however I have a problem, it's 8.30am and I fancy a Guinness.

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supergenie13

13 years ago

Hi Colin,

Thank you very much for the warning and making people aware. Not everyone is a Guru or years online, I am new and need to be aware.

I learned very quickly to be careful.

Thanks again and kind regards.

Herman

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