Do not Submit to Google if you do Not want to be Sandboxed!

[MindReality]

Hi,

I just want to give a word of warning to you all about submitting to Google.

I recently created a website called:
Enoch Tan - Creator of Mind Reality

Many people have been searching my name "Enoch Tan" for more information about me, therefore I created that site specifically for that purpose.

After a few days, I noticed my site show up on the second page of Google for the search term "Enoch Tan". I made some changes to the title and body and then waited a few more days, but Google did not update the search engine listing of it yet.

So in order to expedite the process of getting Google bots to crawl my site again, for the first time in my life I submitted a site to Google which was that site.

Next thing I know the website is no longer found on the second page and when I search for the domain name itself, it even ranks on the last position out of 4 results!

I never entered into the Google Sandbox before for any of my other websites when I did not submit them to Google.

The LESSON learnt here is: DO NOT SUBMIT YOUR NEW SITE TO GOOGLE UNLESS YOU WANT IT TO BE SANDBOXED!

This explains the mystery of why certain new sites get sandboxed while others did not.

Regards,
Enoch Tan - Creator of Mind Reality

[MindReality]

Hi,

One of the ways I am using to hopefully get my website into the top rankings once again faster is by creating a press release with keyword anchor text links to my site.

I created a press release which was published today at PRWEB for $360.

Enoch Tan Releases Personal Website About The Secrets Of Life

I'm looking to see if it would get my website out of the sandbox faster.

I have also requested site reconsideration under Google Webmasters Tools beforehand.

Regards,
Enoch Tan - Creator of Mind Reality

[admin]

Enoch,

Please use only a sig file for your domain. Not the post and the sig file.

Thanks,

Allen

[BIG Mike]

I rather suspect that the page itself is the cause - there's not much in the way of content and all of the links go to your other site.

Secondly, just a heads up - at the end of your posts you've got your signature and links to your site in addition to your sig file. You might want to relocate them as it could be seen a spam.

[BIG Mike]

Originally Posted by admin

Enoch,

Please use only a sig file for your domain. Not the post and the sig file.

Thanks,

Allen

Whoops - Allen outdrew me from the hip, hehehehe.

[zerofill]

Just so you know...if you have a google webmaster tools...st your sites up there and submit a sitemap...that is one of the quickest ways to get crawled. As for your site...That never happens to me and I will continue to add sitemaps.

[seree]

I believe you are run out of luck for this case.
It never happen to me.

However, Google Sandbox is myth! Who knows about it?

:-)

[kelvin yeo]

Hmm... I'm not sure thats true. I submit all my sites direct to Google. Not had any problems so far.

[lacraiger]

how can come to this conclusion from the results of your site? you probably did something else wrong to penalize yourself.

[geoffcruz]

I experienced the same thing, but mine is a squidoo site. I have been linking to that site like crazy and it still does not appear in google. Its almost two weeks already. Can any one advise me how to show up in google fast.

Geoff

http://affiliatepayloadproduct.blogspot.com/

[jhongren]

Originally Posted by geoffcruz

I experienced the same thing, but mine is a squidoo site. I have been linking to that site like crazy and it still does not appear in google. Its almost two weeks already. Can any one advise me how to show up in google fast.

Geoff

Affiliate Payload - Affiliate Payload Review

Hi Geoff, you can add your url in your signature =)

[JamesW]

I've never submitted any of my sites to Google. Just write an article and mass submit it, or add your site to Digg or Propeller if it's a blog and you should be listed in Google in just a few days.

[Greg Cooksley]

Hey Enoch,

I don't think that it's wise to make such a sweeping statement
because you have only your experience with one site to go on.

Perhaps, a better approach is to state your problem and ask others
to comment.

When we make sweeping statements it can negatively impact newer
IM'ers and give them an incorrect view....Don't you think?

Regards

Greg

[MindReality]

Originally Posted by BIG Mike

I rather suspect that the page itself is the cause - there's not much in the way of content and all of the links go to your other site.

Secondly, just a heads up - at the end of your posts you've got your signature and links to your site in addition to your sig file. You might want to relocate them as it could be seen a spam.

That could be the reason, but there was no penalization until I submitted to Google.

I had never been sandboxed before with my other 4 sites which were not submitted to Google. 2 of them are also one page sites.

[MindReality]

Originally Posted by TOPGUN08

Submitting your site directly to Google won't necessarily put you in the sandbox.
Anyway there's no need to submit your site to Google. You'll get indexed quickly by making a post at Propeller or Digg.

As I said, my site was already ranking on the second page of Google before I submitted it. I didn't do it to get it indexed, but to expedite the process of getting Google bots to crawl it again.

I have created a site map for it after the incident.