I don't Like...Want...Need...Care...But You Better Pay Attention

Yes.

I think it's hysterical when someone decides they don't like a particular method or tactic, and they attach that "unethical" tag to it. Almost as if they are justifying their own lack of success or something.

Or simply trying to make themselves look better in this public environment.

Who knows - I can only speculate.

This is why I love the unsubscribe link. If a marketer does something or sells something I personally feel is of questionable character, ethics, quality, or anything else - I click that lovely little link and move on. I don't try to force feed my viewpoint or definition on others.

Voicing an opinion is one thing and I'm all for it. But a few people go way beyond that. And I find that way more questionable than what they complain about.

lmao - Probably one of the funnier posts I've seen on here in a while

It's important that everyone test for themselves what works best for THEM. Understand this, even if a certain technique doesn't work well, marketers like Reese, Kern, and some of the other big Dawgs are going to get paid because the numbers are in their favor.

Their tactics might not work for the guy with 500 subscribers, but if you have a list of 50K and half of them don't like what you have to say, you still have 25K to sell something too.

Every marketers strategy needs to be tested to see what works best for them, especially with stuff like this.

BTW...If Kern is still trying to scrape up the cash for the split testing software, I'll spot him His Mansion tells me he's good for it

Steven,

Thank you for one of your best posts ever. You knew HOW to say what you did without making anyone else wrong.

This is actually nuts.

Some of the reactions of some of the people in this thread are what causes some of the bigger marketers to stay away, and now a bunch of rants that J-Mo has been on lately make complete sense to me.

It AMAZES me that people with seemingly little success online and relative newbies to Internet business think that if gurus followed their suggestions, they'd sell a lot more stuff. Some of you are talking out your hoop.

Do you honestly think some of the biggest players in the industry are not making any money with all these techniques that you don't like? The hard truth of the matter is they have been doing this longer than most of us complaining about them, and they have been making a lot more money doing it.

But hold on, lets not waste our time listening to the people actually making money online, lets not learn what we can from their business and apply it to our own, how about we all just go bitch on a forum and then listen to people with around 100 posts or less tell their miraculous success stories, using techniques they have found on an old IM blog somewhere in the "ether" of the Internet!?
(Please note heavy sarcasm throughout last paragraph)

Some of you are off the map.

I can't believe some one actually accused Steven of being a butt kisser as well. Steven doesn't need to kiss anyone's butt, and if you'd paid attention to what he has been saying in other threads, chances are you could have made yourself some serious cash instead of whining on a forum.

I feel like I can speak with relative authority on this matter. I recently was employed by an IM guru. I don't want to say their name as I don't have their permission, but all I will say is, all the pictures that THEY put on their sites are real and they really are making a lot of money. On top of this, these techniques you don't like WORK, and is the reason why this particular individual has sold well over 5000 units of one product in less than a month. Thats in the middle of this economic decline by the way.

Heres a suggestion for all the people out there moaning:
Go out and do things your way, and don't any of the things you think are annoying. Then come back here post your results and let us know if it made you enough money to quit your day job. If it does, then thats awesome, if it doesn't, then doesn't that tell you something?

I want to add though, that I can see where some people are coming from with some of the graphics on webpages. The computer generated graphic of the lamboghini and mansion is cheesey and isn't something the big players do. There are some low-level marketers getting it VERY wrong, but thats not what this discussion has been aimed at and its not the kind of thing that has been complained about so much on the forum.

I hate to argue or get sucked into negativity, but dam this post got me. Its real easy to see why some of you are not making the money you want online and you have my pity.

Steven, thanks for the post. As always, you hit the nail on the head.

I struggle to believe that Steven. I've got a couple of your products and think they are fantastic. But even if I didn't, most of your posts are worth 10 times more than some WSOs (that's nothing against the WSOs, just that your posts contain such great tips). Ok, so that makes me a kiss ass too.

Sometimes the vocal minority outshout the silent majority - I don't post very much on here but have had more value than from any other forum. Keep posting, it's appreciated.