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THANK YOU, Victim

by Rob D
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Here it is, my number one trick for not being overly drawn in by mailing list sales pitches.

I sign up to a list with a name like 'victim' or 'sucker'.

When you get a letter that starts with 'dear victim...' and ends up convincing you that you need to buy something you know it's a good piece of writing. You then don't buy whatever it is and deconstruct the letter to work out WHAT MADE IT SO GOOD that you still wanted to buy despite the negative start.

Maybe it's just me......
#victim
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
    Every time you do this, you get a reminder that you think of yourself as a victim or a sucker. If you signed up to a lot of email lists, then you get a lot of reinforcements of your self-proclaimed loserness every day.

    I have found it easier for myself to just begin reading the sales letter from the bottom. That way I know what the pitch is going to be and I can evaluate the techniques involved with making the sale by knowing what the bottom line to start with.
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    • Profile picture of the author steadypay
      Originally Posted by JMichaelZ View Post

      Every time you do this, you get a reminder that you think of yourself as a victim or a sucker. If you signed up to a lot of email lists, then you get a lot of reinforcements of your self-proclaimed loserness every day.

      I have found it easier for myself to just begin reading the sales letter from the bottom. That way I know what the pitch is going to be and I can evaluate the techniques involved with making the sale by knowing what the bottom line to start with.

      Lol ye; funny self fulfilling prophecy.
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  • Profile picture of the author mandark
    Haha this is a funny method of keeping your head in place when reading these emails. While it does have a hint of self-loathing in it, I kind of like it.
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    • Profile picture of the author inter123
      I don't buy anything peroid But 'dear victim' is funny...
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      • Profile picture of the author briancassingena
        Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

        I don't buy anything peroid But 'dear victim' is funny...
        You bought a war room membership... :p




        And Rob D, you won't be able to do this on my sites - I don't collect names on any of them. You or anyone else got any results with this method vs collecting names?
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    As much as it sounds that your self esteem is struggling
    and needs a hug, I found it quite amusing..

    LOL

    However, you do make a point about dissecting an email
    and finding out what made you buy.

    You might as well start collecting the 'good ones'
    into a swipe file, don't you think?

    Igor
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Why not just decide you're a seller not a buyer and just don't buy anything?
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    nothing to see here.

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    • Profile picture of the author Traffic Eagle
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      Why not just decide you're a seller not a buyer and just don't buy anything?
      Heheheh, I like it! But it's sometimes a necessity to buy information or software to make things happen quicker.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarah Bosen
    LOL
    Dear Vicitm....

    Why not avoid buying things where you don't want it and aren't interested in being on lists?
    That would save you some trouble, and clean up your spam folder
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesPenn
    Why, if something has good copy, does it mean you shouldn't buy it?

    If I read a salespage and it makes me want to buy, I buy.

    If it's no good I'll refund. If it is good then I'll pick up some strategies that can make me a lot more money.

    After a lot of buying you can eventually tell which products are really going to help you, and which are full of crap and bull**** promises.

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Can you not remember to NOT buy if you would use your name in the forms or would you be hypnotized and seduced to buy? Good grief!
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  • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
    You can also put a different name on each list you sign up for, and write it down.

    Then if you ever start getting spammed with email that says dear [whatever you put down] then you know who is sharing, selling, or otherwise letting your info out.


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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Barker
    That is a good way to keep yourself in perspective when trying new things online. I kinda like it!

    HAHAHAHAHA
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    • Profile picture of the author Danny McConnell
      You will have reached step two in your online journey when you no longer feel the irresistible urge to buy things. (I'm on step 1.5) Then you'll be ready to sell this tip as a WSO.

      Dan
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      • Profile picture of the author magicmarcus
        i think the key is to understand marketing as a whole FIRST because then even the not so perfect products will be able to help you with one little hint.

        first determine where you want to go - then buy things that will help you get there...

        the problem is that many would be marketers do not have an end goal in mind... so "facebook" may sound good this week and "local marketing" the next... but in the end you are just chasing your tail.

        many of times i have bought a program of product for many thousands of dollars... just for one little tip... and its been worth its weight in gold.

        take it from someone who has spent close to $200K on products... and has made much more than that using them
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkWrites
    Don't make me do a split test and see if I have more "victims" or "suckers" sign up for my list!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob D
    >Why not just decide you're a seller not a buyer and just don't buy anything?

    If a seller doesn't try and understand the mindset of a buyer they are probably not going to have as much success as a seller. When I do this it's about getting hooked as a buyer, and then working out how I can use that hook to improve my approach as a seller.

    >Why, if something has good copy, does it mean you shouldn't buy it?

    Sometimes I do, but I find many times by dissecting what made me buy it in the first place I will learn as much or more as in a product itself. It's not a case of not buying because it has good copy, it's a case of first working out why strings were pulled to make me buy.

    >Originally Posted by Art Turner
    >Of course, you could always use this strategy to give yourself countless motivational >greetings throughout the day...

    >Dear Invincible Success Machine...

    Now that is an even better idea!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    Yes you could do this or you could simply stop signing up for so many newsletters and just focus on one method. It is really funny though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob D
    LOL, okay had to share one final message. This morning in my mail Ihave a message with the subject:

    "..are you WILLING Victim?"

    I'll stop now.
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    I'm just a magpie in a world full of shiny things....

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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Lianelli
    Reply back at them...

    No sir, I'm not. Maybe you could ask my *insert person you don't like here*
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
    Originally Posted by Rob D View Post

    Here it is, my number one trick for not being overly drawn in by mailing list sales pitches.

    I sign up to a list with a name like 'victim' or 'sucker'.
    LMFBO!

    Rob,

    I have a feeling most people reading your OP will miss the power of this technique.

    But I think the real take away here is in Andy Henry's post...
    Why not just decide you're a seller not a buyer and just don't buy anything?
    Here's the deal...if you told any stranger you meet on the street that you just took a sales job, the last thing they are likely to say to you is "Oh really, cool, what did you buy today?"

    Yet many folks who want to be "Internet Marketers" seem to believe that it's "what you buy today" that makes you one.

    Here's a clue...

    It's what you sold today that counts. Buying tools is OK, buying dreams leaves a little to be desired.

    Btw, I can't wait to get an email from the next list I sign up to that promises to make me rich overnight...

    Thanks,

    ~Bill
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