What ever happened to the mobile craze?

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I'm asking this because not too long ago this is all anyone wanted to talk about. I'm in no way suggesting mobile advertising is dying off, it's just that it isn't really taking off like some of us expected - unless I'm completely out of the loop.

I personally find mobile ads pretty annoying and prefer doing most of my web browsing on my laptop - it just feels so much more natural!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    Originally Posted by Ryan Sorensen View Post

    I'm asking this because not too long ago this is all anyone wanted to talk about. I'm in no way suggesting mobile advertising is dying off, it's just that it isn't really taking off like some of us expected - unless I'm completely out of the loop.

    I personally find mobile ads pretty annoying and prefer doing most of my web browsing on my laptop - it just feels so much more natural!
    I agree. with the part that laptop browsing feels natural. But also I think that any kind of ad is pretty darn annoying!
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  • everyone use the internet via a laptop, desktop, etc, i have not touched a mobile browser ever...
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    • Profile picture of the author scottlin
      Originally Posted by affiliateprogramindex View Post

      everyone use the internet via a laptop, desktop, etc, i have not touched a mobile browser ever...
      if you are over 30 yes...under 30 and they are all on mobile devices
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneRQR
    The "craze" was created by a bunch of smart kids selling how-to-make-money products.

    Now they're up to something new, so the "craze" (in the IM niche) is over.

    That doesn't mean mobile isn't going to be a big thing.

    Also: Pretty much all ads are annoying, but they still work.
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  • Profile picture of the author O0o0O
    The mobile craze is not here yet. First, the general population needs to be saturated with smartphones. Then the money can be made by deploying viral apps.

    It's kind of like the video game niche. It can't really take off until everyone has a game console. The biggest game launch in video game history, Black Ops, wouldn't have been possible if everyone didn't have an Xbox first.
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    • Profile picture of the author niffybranco
      Originally Posted by Ryan Sorensen View Post

      I'm asking this because not too long ago this is all anyone wanted to talk about. I'm in no way suggesting mobile advertising is dying off, it's just that it isn't really taking off like some of us expected - unless I'm completely out of the loop.

      I personally find mobile ads pretty annoying and prefer doing most of my web browsing on my laptop - it just feels so much more natural!
      Mobile ADs are big and are really taking off.

      Originally Posted by affiliateprogramindex View Post

      everyone use the internet via a laptop, desktop, etc, i have not touched a mobile browser ever...
      Where did you get your stats from, a lot of people now browse the internet from their mobile, me included once i step out of my house , i do all my browsing on a mobile phone.

      Originally Posted by O0o0O View Post

      The mobile craze is not here yet. First, the general population needs to be saturated with smartphones. Then the money can be made by deploying viral apps.

      It's kind of like the video game niche. It can't really take off until everyone has a game console. The biggest game launch in video game history, Black Ops, wouldn't have been possible if everyone didn't have an Xbox first.
      Erm actually there are more people that own a mobile phone than those that own a computer.

      Originally Posted by ShaneRQR View Post

      The "craze" was created by a bunch of smart kids selling how-to-make-money products.

      Now they're up to something new, so the "craze" (in the IM niche) is over.

      That doesn't mean mobile isn't going to be a big thing.

      Also: Pretty much all ads are annoying, but they still work.
      The problem with the IM niche and mobile is that ,using mobile advertising to target IM'ers is futile as most marketers work from home and for now when you are at home it is still easier to browse on a computer or laptop.

      Mobile marketing works great for local business, as most people when looking for a service or product they can't find when they are out and about turn to their mobile phones for guidance.

      Mobile also works well if you can find a product to advertise to young professionals who have a day job, most people with a day job browse on their phones religiously on their commute to work.

      So it depends on the niche you are targeting , Mobile advertising does not work in every niche at least not yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author social saint
    Nah the mobile craze is still there. Just that people have found better niche and opportunities to talk about. With the increase in penetration of mobile broadband etc, you will see a lot more opportunity in the mobile advertising space.
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  • Profile picture of the author Przemek Bloniarz
    Adam Horwitz, the author of mobile monopoly, the clickbank bestselling product is creating a new launch, so we will probably hear about the mobile craze again..
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    • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
      Originally Posted by Przemek Bloniarz View Post

      Adam Horwitz, the author of mobile monopoly, the clickbank bestselling product is creating a new launch, so we will probably hear about the mobile craze again..
      God help us
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  • Profile picture of the author johninmn
    Niffybranco is right. Young professionals in the USA use their smartphones for the web a lot. They typically use them to search for something immediate and local i.e.. restaurants and shops. Many also use them for Facebook and Twitter when they have down time away from their pc. Making money in the mobile craze can be done via mobile sites, sms marketing, qr codes, etc.. One thing that I have seen here on WF is that noone seems to be making money on mobile PPC or CPA. Most have lost money on those campaigns.
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  • Profile picture of the author Quentin
    Hey I sell mobile products but don't let this stop you reading. I think you maybe out of the loop. For the full review:

    Global mobile statistics 2011: all quality mobile marketing research, mobile Web stats, subscribers, ad revenue, usage, trends

    Global mobile statistics 2011

    PART A: Mobile subscribers; handset data; mobile operators

    1) There are 5.3 billion mobile subscribers (that's 77 percent of the world population). Growth is led by China and India.
    • What other medium offers that reach?
    2) Mobile devices sales rose in 2010, while smartphone sales showed the strongest growth, Nokia remains number one in both smartphones and mobile phones. But there are regional variations - most owned brand of phone in W.Europe is Nokia; in the US is Samsung; and in Japan is Sharp.
    • Feature phones sales (let alone ownership) still outnumber smartphones 4:1. Beware of media hype that exaggerates the market share of smartphones and some handsets in particular. This doesn't matter if your mobile strategy targets all phone users equally, but if you are prioritizing one handset, you must know the facts.
    3) The top mobile network operators worldwide for subscribers and revenues is China Mobile; average revenue per user is 3UK; monthly churn is NTT DOCOMO Japan; and proportion of revenues from data is Smart Philippines.
    • But it's not all good news. Mobile operators in developed countries could run out of profit in the next two to four years if they do not change their business models.
    PART B: Mobile Web; users; 3G coverage

    1) Half a billion people accessed mobile Internet worldwide in 2009. Usage is expected to double within five years as mobile overtakes the PC as the most popular way to get on the Web.
    • But with 277 million mobile Web users just in China, this estimate is sounding a bit conservative.
    2) Many mobile Web users are mobile-only, i.e. they do not, or very rarely use a desktop, laptop or tablet to access the Web. Mobile-only in Egypt is 70 percent, India 59 percent, even in the US it's 25 percent of subscribers.
    • Still think you don't need a mobile site?
    3) By 2011, over 85 percent of new handsets will be able to access the mobile Web. Today in US and W. Europe, 90 percent of mobile subscribers have an Internet-ready phone.
    • Please note that this does not mean smartphones - you do not need a smartphone to access the mobile Web (but it does make for a richer experience).
    4) Almost one in five global mobile subscribers have access to fast mobile Internet (3G or better) services and the number of 3G handsets is growing fast.
    • While very high 3G handset penetration helps to keep Japan at the pinnacle of mobile Web, very low 3G penetration in China hasn't stopped rapid growth.
    5) Widespread availability of unlimited data plans is critical to penetration of mobile media usage, it drove mobile media in Japan, now it's driving the US; but in W. Europe, lack of availability is holding up progress.

    PART C: Mobile marketing, advertising and messaging

    1) SMS is still king of mobile messaging with more than 6.1 trillion messages sent in 2010.
    • Despite the popularity of mobile email, IM and MMS, SMS is predicted to exceed 10 trillion in 2013.
    2) Estimates for expenditure on mobile advertising and marketing worldwide ranged from US$1.4 billion to $7.5 billion in 2009, all analysts forecast rapid growth.
    • Expect analysts to raise mobile ad expenditure forecasts as US$1.14 billion in Japan (2009) alone; Google now makes US$1 billion in annual mobile ad revenues, and US mobile ad revenues are expected to hit US$1 billion in 2011.
    3) To what types of mobile marketing do people respond best? In the UK and France opt-in SMS gets the best results, in Germany mobile Web ads get the best results.

    PART D: Consumer mobile behavior

    1) What do consumers use their mobiles for? A recent comparison survey between Japan, US and Europe, show that the Japanese are still much more advanced in mobile behavior, with 55.4 percent and 53.3 percent using apps, compared to 36.4 percent and 34.4 percent in the US and 28.8 percent and 28.0 percent in Europe.
    • Despite all the media hype, and vast sums pumped into developing and promoting native apps, more consumers use their browser than apps in developed nations. Only a minority will use Web or apps exclusively.
    2) Most popular activities on the mobile Web are mobile search, reading news and sports information, downloading music and videos, and email and instant messages. In the future, money transfer; location-based services; m-health and m-payment will be key drivers.

    PART E: Mobile apps, app stores, pricing and failure rates

    1) Over 300,000 mobile apps have been developed in three years. Apps have been downloaded 10.9 billion times. But demand for download mobile apps is expected to peak in 2013.

    2) The most used mobile apps in the US are games; news; maps; social networking and music. Facebook, Google Maps and The Weather Channel (TWC) rule.
    • But does reality match the hype around apps? The average download price of a mobile app is falling rapidly on all vendor app stores, except Android. And 1 in 4 mobile apps once downloaded are never used again.
    PART F: Mobile financial services (MFS) and mobile payment

    1) 1 billion people will access financial services by mobile by 2015. The MFS market will be dominated Asia, driven by mobile operator-led initiatives in developing nations to bank the unbanked. Remittance/transfers by mobile is growing three times faster than m-banking.
    • Will MFS be mobile's killer application?
    2) 50 percent of the world's mobile subscribers could be paying by mobile (m-payments) by 2014.
    • Japan sets the precedent for m-payment - 10 percent of Japanese mobile subscribers paid by mobile in December alone.
    • M-commerce is predicted to reach US$119 billion in 2015, Japan remains king. Top m-commerce retailers globally include: Taobao, Amazon and eBay. On eBay alone consumers bought and sold over US$2 billion worth of merchandise on via mobile in 2010.
    • M-ticketing will be used by more than 1 in 10 mobile subscribers in 2014, particularly in the transport sector.
    Quentin
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  • @ niffybranco

    i mean everyone is using a computer, even families with less income then most, however those same families will not add internet to phone package....

    its simple logic of economy..............

    i am saying

    laptop, desktop user> mobile user

    my child users our home computer, but she is no way having a cellphone or web access with it...
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    • Profile picture of the author Edwards WOrld
      most of the IM MMO garbage Adam Horwitz an the others are BS they will never tell you how to really make money.

      Mobile marketing works an will continue to grow you just need to test an gotta know what your doing most people want a Adsense type of model slap an "auto pilot" stuff so the ones that put the work will make money period.

      -EA
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    • Profile picture of the author niffybranco
      Originally Posted by affiliateprogramindex View Post

      @ niffybranco

      i mean everyone is using a computer, even families with less income then most, however those same families will not add internet to phone package....

      its simple logic of economy..............

      i am saying

      laptop, desktop user> mobile user

      my child users our home computer, but she is no way having a cellphone or web access with it...
      Did you read the statistics posted by Quentin, cause your household doesn't use mobile internet don't meant the whole world is not using it.

      Here in the UK most phone companies will give you free access to the internet when you top up your phone, when i bought my iphone i got i years free internet i did not need to add any extra package.

      Your childs case is probably an isolated one you need to get out there and see how many teenagers are tweeting or using facebook on their mobiles all day long.

      The world is a very big place , just read the stats Quentin posted.
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      • Originally Posted by niffybranco View Post

        Did you read the statistics posted by Quentin, cause your household doesn't use mobile internet don't meant the whole world is not using it.

        Here in the UK most phone companies will give you free access to the internet when you top up your phone, when i bought my iphone i got i years free internet i did not need to add any extra package.

        Your childs case is probably an isolated one you need to get out there and see how many teenagers are tweeting or using facebook on their mobiles all day long.

        The world is a very big place , just read the stats Quentin posted.

        i live in the usa... and its really bad here, we have to pay for our health care....

        lets go another direction.... find me stats from a source that is not part of or promoting the mobile tech...

        with solid numbers not predictions..

        a link please not a copy paste
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  • Profile picture of the author neford
    Two things need to happen for mobile to take off first everyone needs a REAL smart phone few have one and then the price of broadband needs to fall in order for people to use them then and only then will it take off

    I recently tried to download a Q R Code reader to my phone only to realize my one year old phone will not do that so I thought no big deal I will just grab a used phone off ebay and load one on it of the twenty six Samsung phones that Verizon carries on their net only three will run a Q R Code app I checked this against the list from 12 different QR Code readers and the phones that they will run on, the point being here that most of the older ( 1yr old :-( ) won't run these apps

    So I called my daughter who is a high level exec for Quest Intentional ( forth largest telephone company in America ) who by the way sell's the Verizon service and asked her she has a six month old smart phone from L G a slide something and her phone will not run a Q R Code reader so until the smart phones catch up you will not see the explosion in mobile everyone tells you about

    Check it out for yourself QR-Code Reader & Software - Mobile Barcodes

    PS I am not referring to the IPhone or the Droid as few people can actually afford these phones anyway and even if they gave them to you could you afford the monthly charge for using them the average family has four mobile phones in the family call your local company and ask how much for unlimited internet usage for four phones and you will start to see the problem hell they're having a hard time paying utilities

    So mobile explosion well I will leave that up to you to decide, the way I see it we're several years away from that
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  • Profile picture of the author Alan1234
    I predict that the mobile craze will really take off when you can wave your cell (smart) phone in front of a Coke machine and buy a soda.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
    its kind of like video phone calls.

    On paper sounds amazing.

    In reality, people dont want it.
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    • Profile picture of the author niffybranco
      Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

      its kind of like video phone calls.

      On paper sounds amazing.

      In reality, people dont want it.
      Where did you get your stats from :confused:

      The reality is video calls are increasing in popularity, the first video call phones came out a few years ago but video calls were expensive at the time and the phones that had it were not powerful enough to deliver quality comparable to computers, now they can. With most smart phones having skype and other free voip apps videos calls are becoming popular again , Post iphone4, 7% of all calls in the US were video calls.

      Companies like apple spend millions of dollars on surveys and polls asking people what they want and if people did not want video calls apple and other phone companies would not be spending millions developing it.

      7% of Americans have made video phone calls post-iPhone 4 | Electronista
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      • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
        Originally Posted by niffybranco View Post

        Where did you get your stats from :confused:

        The reality is video calls are increasing in popularity,
        Companies like apple spend millions of dollars on surveys and polls asking people what they want and if people did not want video calls apple and other phone companies would not be spending millions developing it.

        7% of Americans have made video phone calls post-iPhone 4 |
        Electronista
        Woah a whole 7%:p

        People are camera shy for the most part. Video calls is some future dream from the 80s and 90s and seemed like the next logical step in phone communication but most people don't want it, which is evident by your 7% stat, regardless of the extra cost.
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        • Profile picture of the author niffybranco
          Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

          Woah a whole 7%:p

          People are camera shy for the most part. Video calls is some future dream from the 80s and 90s and seemed like the next logical step in phone communication but most people don't want it, which is evident by your 7% stat, regardless of the extra cost.
          7% post iphone 4 and if you did not do the maths that is over 21 million people , if you think 21 million people making video calls on the iphone 4 alone is not a lot then cool . the stats above do not include other platforms and other countries.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Sammut
    Originally Posted by Ryan Sorensen View Post

    I'm asking this because not too long ago this is all anyone wanted to talk about. I'm in no way suggesting mobile advertising is dying off, it's just that it isn't really taking off like some of us expected - unless I'm completely out of the loop.

    I personally find mobile ads pretty annoying and prefer doing most of my web browsing on my laptop - it just feels so much more natural!
    some new product comes along, like getfbfreeads, and everyone forgets about the mobile stuff, till it comes around again
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    • Profile picture of the author niffybranco
      Originally Posted by Nick Sammut View Post

      some new product comes along, like getfbfreeads, and everyone forgets about the mobile stuff, till it comes around again
      What we need to realize is internet marketing and mobile marketing is a lot bigger than the make money online niche, cause a system is not popular in the make money online niche does not mean other marketers are not cashing in with it in other niches.

      That is why when people say internet marketing is dying etc i want to reap my hair out and scream go say that to amazon or ebay.

      We feel like we are the only ones into internet marketing but we are not, you can learn a lot about internet marketing by just watching what amazon does, how they handle their sales process, how they handle their upsells, instead of using exit popups like people in the MMO niche do amazon upsells are subtle , they use the people who bought this also bought .......... technique, next time you purchase from amazon study their checkout process you might just learn a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
    It is not sufficient to categorise it plainly as 'mobile marketing'.
    in countries like India, Bangladesh and Arab continent as an example mobile phones are massive with it being easier to market mobile phones to the consumer then a physical landline that cost too much and too long to setup. But this market uses voice and sms and not internet.

    In western countries the smart phone is taking off and will only get better.

    92% of all app downloads are from Apple so clearly it is a market leading in this area.

    Monetisation of mobile phones will take time since a smart phone does not allow you to provide as much information as a desktop/laptop due to the screen size and functionality.

    Tablets are what people should be considering for monetisation in my opinion
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    In a nutshell, its still in its infancy, there are strategy's yet to be developed,and its evolving.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Phillip
    Nothing happened to the craze. Its just not that well known on Warrior Forum.

    TechCrunch has all the info on mobile apps and businesses.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      What do you mean "what ever happened"? LOL! It is quite well known and discussed regularly here on the Warrior Forum. There are now more cell phone users than PCs, and it's growing fast.

      Sales are being made right now for SMS texting advertising/messaging, NFC payment services and related technologies for fast food chains, retail store chains, franchises, insurance companies, attorneys, real estate, hotels, auto dealerships, hospitals, clinics, trucking companies, and even city and municipal accounts, etc.

      Nearly every business can and eventually will use these services. This has all been discussed in the Offline Forum for quite a long time. You can go and buy a latte right now at Starbucks by waving your smartphone.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrumpiaTim
    Trumpia Mobile Marketing has been taking off, we haven't seen a decline at all, and if you visit the offline marketing forum, SMS marketing is still one of the most discussed topics.
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  • Profile picture of the author nehasingh
    Thanks to Android I think mobile browsing is very similar like PC. A year back I use to hate mobile browsing more than anyone. I even tried best of the browsers, Opera Mobile and Mini but still It was a headache. But now I'm browsing on my Xperia Pro Android Phone and it is outstanding. I can able to see exactly similar website like a PC with all the flash contents. I also heard a prediction that mobile internet god good future, even better the PC.
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