URGGG! Have any of you run into this new EZA rule?

15 years ago

Yes, same thing happened to me. I had an old article that had a link that no longer worked so I wanted to remove it, now I can't get the article approved! go figure...

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adamv 15 years ago

I had the same thing happen with a few of my articles. If EZA won't approve my articles I'll just use the content somwhere else, either on my own site or a Squidoo lens.
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essmeier

15 years ago

A while back, I submitted an article to them comparing marketing ebooks to full-blown Internet marketing courses. They refused to publish it, saying that they "do not approve of marketing courses."

Nothing in their terms about it, of course. They just arbitrarily decided they weren't going to publish it. Over time, they have slowly become rather impressed with themselves.

I still submit to them, along with about 20 other sites, but I no longer worry about it if they have an issue with a particular article. I just delete it and move on.

They're not the only game in town, nor are they the only source of traffic.

Charlie

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Chris Lockwood

15 years ago

Originally Posted by essmeier

A while back, I submitted an article to them comparing marketing ebooks to full-blown Internet marketing courses. They refused to publish it, saying that they "do not approve of marketing courses."

That's bizarre. We're supposed to learn everything from trial and error?

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jimcal

15 years ago

Just like ebay, they are biting the hand that feeds them. Diversify your income base because things change rapidly without notice.
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Eswar 15 years ago

Ezine Articles become greedy. I think they want only paid members ! Nowadays i don't even like to login to my ezine articles account.

Ezine Articles behaving like younger brother of Google !:rolleyes:

But i wonder why there is still no good competitor to this website. Monopoly is always dangerous !
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Ryan Dodson 15 years ago

Originally Posted by jimcal

Just like ebay, they are biting the hand that feeds them. Diversify your income base because things change rapidly without notice.
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Exactly what I was thinking.

While their new rules haven't had any effect on my content yet, I'm sure it's only a matter of time.

But look at the bright side, there's always:

- GoArticles
- EasyArticles
- ArticlesBase
- ArticleDashboard
- Buzzle
- ArticleAlley
- and ArticlePool

to fall back on...
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WritingMadwoman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by GuruGazette

My main Guru Gazette landing page had a link to PLR article packages (custom products of my own), and EZA informed me they do not allow links to sites which contain information or links to PLR content.

Ok... so as a test to see how much of my site they wanted to dictate policy for, I removed the "offending" link on my landing page, and resubmitted one of the problem articles. It ended up back in the "General Error" section, so I contacted support again....

The other link in my article bios leads to my plugin software pages. I'm not selling any Private label content or even linking to it, BUT one of my plugins talks about how it can be used for publishing PLR content in it's sales copy.

Guess what? EZA wants me to remove that too, then they'll approve my articles.

Holy cow, this is the first I've heard about this new "rule". I imagine they will have to remove thousands of articles from their database now because so many either mention PLR or link to something was once sold as PLR or involves PLR in some way, shape or form...?

What amazes me more is that they are having their editors examine everyone's sites and links so closely! How much time does that take per article?

Policing the content on their own site I can see, but not policing the content everywhere else. They must think that just linking to a site that mentions PLR will have a negative impact on their site?

Wendy

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GuruGazette

15 years ago

Originally Posted by WritingMadwoman

Policing the content on their own site I can see, but not policing the content everywhere else. They must think that just linking to a site that mentions PLR will have a negative impact on their site?

Wendy

Yeah this just boggles my mind. I can absolutely see them having limits as to what pages on their sites will link to. None of us would want to link a respectable business site to porn, or viruses, or illegal products or services, and so on.

But to try and dictate which LEGAL and LEGITIMATE information or services you are or aren't allowed to write about, provide, or mention is crossing the line.

For the record, if this were a simple link exchange service I could see them being choosy about who they link to. And I've even personally declined advertising offers that did not match the content or purpose of a given site. But I've never told anyone to "change that first" or worse: Give me all your great content and products so I can make tons of money from you, then run your business MY WAY and I'll let you have a tiny little link buried in the midst of everything else.

I'm leaving everything lie till I cool down a bit and make sure I'm not knee jerk reacting, but at the moment I'm seriously considering pulling all 350+ articles I have there.

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adamv

15 years ago

Originally Posted by WritingMadwoman

Holy cow, this is the first I've heard about this new "rule". I imagine they will have to remove thousands of articles from their database now because so many either mention PLR or link to something was once sold as PLR or involves PLR in some way, shape or form...?

What amazes me more is that they are having their editors examine everyone's sites and links so closely! How much time does that take per article?

Policing the content on their own site I can see, but not policing the content everywhere else. They must think that just linking to a site that mentions PLR will have a negative impact on their site?

Wendy

I don't think they are going to go through their existing data base and delete articles. What happened with the OP and me as well is that we made changes to an already published article and when we resubmitted the articles they were not accepted. So I think the new, more strict rules apply to anything submitted from now on, including editing and resubmitting previously published articles.

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MaskedMarketer 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Eswar

Ezine Articles become greedy. I think they want only paid members !

Its a business. Just like you're business, they want to get paid.
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WritingMadwoman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by adamv

I don't think they are going to go through their existing data base and delete articles. What happened with the OP and me as well is that we made changes to an already published article and when we resubmitted the articles they were not accepted. So I think the new, more strict rules apply to anything submitted from now on, including editing and resubmitting previously published articles.

Ah, you are right - I just reread the OP and saw that, missed it the first time, thanks! It still seems a bit obsessive, and I wonder what the logic is? Granted, "some" PLR is awful and I sure wouldn't want to link to it either.

But then again, "some" unique content is just as awful. It has nothing to do with being PLR.

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Steven Wagenheim

15 years ago

John: Hey Jack, can I come over to your house today?

Jack: Sure, but I first have to tell you about my new rules.

John: What new rules? (sounds puzzled)

Jack: Well, you know how you used to be able to come over and take off
your shoes and relax?

John: Yeah?

Jack: Well, you can't do that anymore. Oh, and those snacks of yours that
you'd bring over to munch on during the game.

John: You mean my weanie meanies? (sounds scared)

Jack: Yeah, afraid you can't bring them anymore either.

John: Jack, what's with all the rules? This is crazy. You never used to
have these rules.

Jack: Well, I do now.

John: And you expect me to come over under those conditions?

Jack: I expect that if you do come over that you obey my rules.

John: Jack, you're gonna lose me as a friend with stupid rules like this.

Jack: That's okay John...I have plenty of other friends. (hangs up phone)

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Kirk Ward

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

John: Hey Jack, can I come over to your house today?

Jack: Sure, but I first have to tell you about my new rules.

John: What new rules? (sounds puzzled)

Jack: Well, you know how you used to be able to come over and take off
your shoes and relax?

John: Yeah?

Jack: Well, you can't do that anymore. Oh, and those snacks of yours that
you'd bring over to munch on during the game.

John: You mean my weanie meanies? (sounds scared)

Jack: Yeah, afraid you can't bring them anymore either.

John: Jack, what's with all the rules? This is crazy. You never used to
have these rules.

Jack: Well, I do now.

addendum ...

Jack: And, by the way, I won't send any of my friends to your house if you have any weanie meanies over there.

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wordwizard 15 years ago

Thanks for alerting us to this one, Kathy!

So I'll save myself the trouble of starting a new set of articles on the joys of PLR ;-) at least for EZA.

Meanwhile, I have run into minor issues with their newfangled rules in other areas, i.e., number and type of links permitted.

And the solution for me:

BEFORE I change an article, and thereby take it out of active status, I check to make sure what, if anything, will have to be changed. And if it has 3 links in the resource box and I decide I'd like to keep them all, I just leave that article alone. After all, I can always write new ones. Mercifully, since they require us to own the domains we use for redirects, I can just change where the redirects lead to and update things that way.

One other thing I just got rejected for: anchor text links can now no longer have more than 3 words!!!

So if you have any of this going on, just leave your article alone (or be prepared to make the adjustments to follow EZA's new rules).

Personally, I approach it more like a game:

It's their house, and so they get to make the rules. I get to choose if I want to visit, as some of you have so aptly pointed out. There's a lot I can do within the rules.

So far, they haven't caused me any real hassles (they now actually explain more clearly what the problem is, and they no longer have all those false positives), and I hope they won't in the future either. I do get a ton of great traffic from EZA, so I plan to keep publishing my stuff there.

Of course, I'll publish it in a few other choice places too, including Allen Says' article directory, where I still have to get started (note to self: get started already!).

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- chrisknight 15 years ago
  
  John: Hey Jack, mind if I continue to come over to your house as I always do?
  
  Jack: Sure John, feel free to; but we have new carpet so you'll have to take your shoes off... mmm k?
  
  John: But I like leaving my shoes on. I don't want to take my shoes off.
  
  Jack: If we let everyone visit us with their shoes on, the carpet would get ruined faster... and now, when you come over, we can have more fun because our house is bigger with more things to play with.
  
  John: I understand, but I'm different because I'm a charter guest in your home before you had new carpet and were living in that one tiny bedroom apartment.
  
  Jack: Sorry, John... as much as I still value you as a close friend, in order to keep our house nice for all of our friends, I must ask you to remove your shoes if you want to come inside.
  
  John: That sucks, but you do give me more traffic than all of those other competitor sites that other members mentioned in this thread.
  
  Jack: My ability to give you that traffic requires that we continue to raise the standards every month by just a little bit so that our house is a quality one that everyone wants to visit.
  
  John: Ok Jack... I still like you, even if I'd rather wear my shoes while in your house.
  
  :-)
  
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Allen Graves

15 years ago

FYI:

They are going to begin using nofollow tags on the body links too. Very soon. So get ready for that too.

AL

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GuruGazette 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

FYI:

They are going to begin using nofollow tags on the body links too. Very soon. So get ready for that too.

AL

Interesting... so what will the incentive be for people to add their content there in the future I wonder.
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RRicart

15 years ago

I never heard of this rule until today - that's just crazy but I guess they are also entitled to make the choices they need to in order to improve their business.....but to take articles that have always been up and not allow them to be posted when they were submitted before the terms changed..I dunno..

Eswar, I think there are a few other popular article directories - dont really think that Ezinearticles can be considered a monopoly, you have Articlesbase, ArticleCity and a few other popular ones......if Ezine does not want to approve these articles I would just publish them elsewhere.

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Allen Graves

15 years ago

Just links in the body...not the resource.

I think Buzzle, or one of those other ones nofollows ALL of the links.

In that case, direct traffic would be the only incentive.

AL

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melanied

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

Just links in the body...not the resource.

I think Buzzle, or one of those other ones nofollows ALL of the links.

In that case, direct traffic would be the only incentive.

AL

Buzzle links are dofollow, but ArticlesBase links are nofollow.

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GuruGazette

15 years ago

Jack: Well, you know how you used to be able to take off your shoes and relax at your house?

John: Yeah?

Jack: Well, you can't do that anymore. Oh, and those snacks of yours that
you like to munch on while you're at your house...

John: You mean my weanie meanies? (sounds scared)

Jack: Yeah, afraid you can't do that anymore either.

John: Jack, Why can't I do what I want in my home? This is crazy. You never used to have these rules.

Jack: Well, I do now.

Steve: You're absolutely right in your scenario and I started my original post saying the exact same thing. My issue is not with their rules in their house. My issue is when they try to tell me what I'm allowed to do in my own house.

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Steven Wagenheim

15 years ago

Originally Posted by GuruGazette

Jack: Well, you know how you used to be able to take off your shoes and relax at your house?

John: Yeah?

Jack: Well, you can't do that anymore. Oh, and those snacks of yours that
you like to munch on while you're at your house...

John: You mean my weanie meanies? (sounds scared)

Jack: Yeah, afraid you can't do that anymore either.

John: Jack, Why can't I do what I want in my home? This is crazy. You never used to have these rules.

Jack: Well, I do now.

Steve: You're absolutely right in your scenario and I started my original post saying the exact same thing. My issue is not with their rules in their house. My issue is when they try to tell me what I'm allowed to do in my own house.

Unfortunately, what you're now doing in your house connects to their
house. They're not telling you what to do in your house. They're just
saying that if you want to do it, they don't want anything to do with
your house, which is absolutely their right. If you want to place an
article in their site (it is their site, right) then you have to make sure it
conforms to their rules...even if that means your site can't have certain
content on it.

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adamv 15 years ago

I'm in agreement with what essmeier posted above. EZA can do whatever they want, I'll still try to post with them now and then. If my article gets accepted that's great, if not, there are a lot of other things I can do with that article.

In addition to publishing articles on article directories you could:

Use the article for web site or blog content.
Use it on web 2.0 sites like Squidoo or Hubpages.
Read it aloud and make / submit a podcast for backlinks.
Make an exe file and submit it to software directories for backlinks.
Publish it on someone else's blog as a guest author.

There are countless ways you can use your content even if EZA doesn't want it. I would list more but I have to go to the post office now and ship some DVD's.
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GuruGazette

15 years ago

It's moot point for me at least. Some people rely on sites like this to earn anything online, thankfully I don't. And I just realized I've watched this happen time and again over the years.

One large site was paying me ~$2000 per month for advertising back in 2000 or 2001, and giving me great exposure too. They got a bit big for their britches and decided their partner sites had to change the way they looked. It basically boiled down to them wanting me and others to make our site look like theirs. I said no thanks and ended the contract. That ad network is no longer around.

With these types of moves, EZA is heading the same direction. I like the exposure I've gotten from them over the years but I don't bust my butt running my own business just to tow someone else's line.

Smart businesses fire their problem clients over time, and they should do the same with partners, suppliers, or otherwise too.

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Allen Graves

15 years ago

Yea, that's it, melanied.

Chris,

I don't think you have to come in here and explain yourself. The constant barrage of attacks on your website is because it is so powerful.

It's when nobody complains that you should be worried. LOL

If they don't like your directory, they can go elsewhere. I can't tell you what to do, but I think you have to try and understand where they are coming from. I'm sure you have experienced things in life you didn't like, even if it was for the better.

While most of the complainers are just complainers and will always just be complainers...some of these folks are kickass article marketers who just need to blow off a little steam. I don't think you have to worry about it too much.

The complainers you probably don't want in the first place, and the good ones will continue using your services because they are, for the most part, not stupid. LOL

AL

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