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Same Warrior That is Stealing From You Is Now Selling To You

by Jeremy Kelsall
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I just found out something completely ridiculous....

There is a fairly popular WSO going on right now by a Warrior. Funny thing is, it is a Warrior who is an active participant on one of those forums that steals products and then gives them away...at least until the download link is taken down.

The other thing is, he found that his own WSO was being shared and is not throwing a bit of a fit, but is soliciting for people to give him false testimonials in return for free access to his forum.

Personally, I despise people like this and am in the process of sending in a support ticket to Allen.

The world would be a better place without bottom feeders.

Jeremy
#selling #stealing #warrior
  • Profile picture of the author Christopher R Everson
    If those people didn't eat our scraps, eventually we would be buried in them.

    They are like mosquitoes. In a way they have their purpose, even if you wish to just kill the lot of them.

    It may seem like I'm defending such people, but believe me, they always get whats coming to them. It's our job as respected business people, and proud members of this forum, to make sure that these people don't thrive.
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    • Profile picture of the author Janet Sawyer
      Originally Posted by Christopher R Everson View Post

      If those people didn't eat our scraps, eventually we would be buried in them.

      They are like mosquitoes. In a way they have their purpose, even if you wish to just kill the lot of them.

      It may seem like I'm defending such people, but believe me, they always get whats coming to them. It's our job as respected business people, and proud members of this forum, to make sure that these people don't thrive.

      Christopher,

      They are the thieves and scoundrels, I agree.
      So, please do tell how do we make sure they don't thrive and truely get what's coming to them?

      If you know the true identity of any of them, please point the "OP" - (original poster) in the right direction.

      If you don't then please, just go philosophise eleswhere.
      No offense intended.
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      • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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        Originally Posted by Janet Sawyer View Post

        So, please do tell how do we make sure they don't thrive and truely get what's coming to them?
        All the while people keep buying from people with no real name
        and no website of their own they are going to keep coming back.

        I think we all need to make a new years resolution:

        Don't Buy Anything From Anyone That Can't Prove Who They Really Are!
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        • Profile picture of the author admin
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          Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

          All the while people keep buying from people with no real name
          and no website of their own they are going to keep coming back.

          I think we all need to make a new years resolution:

          Don't Buy Anything From Anyone That Can't Prove Who They Really Are!

          I've said it a thousand times it seems, that in itself would go a long way to virtually eliminating this problem.

          The scum always hides under fake names, no domain names...etc. Usually very easy to spot.
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          • Profile picture of the author Noah Fleming
            Originally Posted by admin View Post

            I've said it a thousand times it seems, that in itself would go a long way to virtually eliminating this problem.

            The scum always hides under fake names, no domain names...etc. Usually very easy to spot.

            Allen's right.
            Ask lots of questions before buying anything.

            If you can't find out who they are, what they are, or where they are... pass.
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  • Profile picture of the author 14
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    what's the point of the thread unless you tell us about who are you talking about?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Well, the point is, I wanted to let warriors know of a potential scumbag that is taking their money.

      It is against the rules for me to post the Warriors name here, but I am in the process of filling out a support ticket now. Hopefully, the member will be banned and not able to profit from us.

      Originally Posted by 14 View Post

      what's the point of the thread unless you tell us about who are you talking about?
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    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
      Originally Posted by 14 View Post

      what's the point of the thread unless you tell us about who are you talking about?
      He's not allowed to - Warrior Forum rules - which make sense in most cases - state that if you have a problem with a warrior, take it up with that warrior, don't name people publicly.

      If we could do that, a lot of innocent people would be vilified on here out of spite or to try to scam them out of products or for many other negative reasons.
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Have you notified the owners of the products? That would be my next step...to ensure the download links expire a lot quicker.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      I always let my fellow warriors know when I see their products on such sites

      Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

      Have you notified the owners of the products? That would be my next step...to ensure the download links expire a lot quicker.
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        • Profile picture of the author Melody
          If this is correct - very cute! Subtle but effective.....

          Originally Posted by ste25 View Post

          God I knew there was something going on after reading a "review".
          Everything the "reviewer" posted seemed a bit too good to be true.
          Right from the start of the WSO I was suspicious of the OP and "mine"
          Alarm bells started sounding when I did a bit of research.
          Looks like this WSO is still running.
          Dont think it will be for much longer though hopefully.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
          LMAO

          I didn't think to get that creative.....lol

          Originally Posted by ste25 View Post

          God I knew there was something going on after reading a "review".
          Everything the "reviewer" posted seemed a bit too good to be true.
          Right from the start of the WSO I was suspicious of the OP and "mine"
          Alarm bells started sounding when I did a bit of research.
          Looks like this WSO is still running.
          Dont think it will be for much longer though hopefully.
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        • Profile picture of the author clawHAMMER
          Originally Posted by ste25 View Post

          God I knew there was something going on after reading a "review".
          Everything the "reviewer" posted seemed a bit too good to be true.
          Right from the start of the WSO I was suspicious of the OP and "mine"
          Alarm bells started sounding when I did a bit of research.
          Looks like this WSO is still running.
          Dont think it will be for much longer though hopefully.
          Clever subliminal message dude. But in the spirit of this forum I won't name names either so I guess we'll just carry on until someone pulls the plug on the scoundrel.

          To bad it isn't as easy to "flag" a bad egg on here like it is on CraigsList.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christopher R Everson
    If everyone just started pointing fingers at people they suspect to be up to no good, eventually it would be madness.

    Jealous people do pretty silly things.

    More importantly, it's a forum rule to not drag it out into the public, for a myriad of reasons.

    If you see it happening, read the forum rules, and notify the correct people.
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  • Profile picture of the author MizzCindy
    I say good for Jeremy for pointing this out!

    He adhered to forum rules by not naming names, but he brought to our attention a nasty little scheme and gave us a very necessary 'heads up'.

    These people may get what's coming to them via some cosmic force or other, but until then I see nothing wrong with taking action to out them in the meantime.

    Thanks, Jeremy, for making folks aware of this!

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  • Profile picture of the author Anthony Smith
    amen sir! take him out if the allegations are true!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Williams
    Why not post the link so we can expose this? I think I know who you're talking about but I'm not sure and neither are a lot of people.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christopher R Everson
    There is no philosophy or theory in what I said, so I don't know why you decided to use

    You see people cheating, you tell the referee.

    You see people scamming here, you use the appropriate tools and report them.

    It's a simple concept.

    I don't know about everyone else here, but I consider myself a business person. I have a business to attend to. I come here to talk with other business owners and compare opinions and strategies, NOT read up on the latest two-bit scam artist gossip.

    If I were a moderator, you'd be banned for that cute, albeit flagrant show of ignorance to the forum rules and policies.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    The person has multiple identities here and has been banned before.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scot Standke
    Come On!

    You mean to tell me that I wasted $10 and 4 minutes of my valuable time setting this system up and I'm not going to be getting 10,000 hits a day?



    Hey, you never know when one of these obscure deals are the real deal, but I thought a few of the supposed testimonials were a bit suspicious.

    Scot
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    • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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      Originally Posted by Scot Standke View Post

      Come On!

      I thought a few of the supposed testimonials were a bit suspicious.

      Scot
      Yes, one was by a female name who signed up the same day as the OP
      She had a WSO identical to a member that was banned one day before they both signed up.
      All 3 used plimus as a payment processor.
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  • Profile picture of the author sevenish
    Not to stir the pot, but those scripts were not created by the seller.
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  • Profile picture of the author richfit
    Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

    I just found out something completely ridiculous....

    There is a fairly popular WSO going on right now by a Warrior. Funny thing is, it is a Warrior who is an active participant on one of those forums that steals products and then gives them away...at least until the download link is taken down.

    The other thing is, he found that his own WSO was being shared and is not throwing a bit of a fit, but is soliciting for people to give him false testimonials in return for free access to his forum.

    Personally, I despise people like this and am in the process of sending in a support ticket to Allen.

    The world would be a better place without bottom feeders.

    Jeremy
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  • Profile picture of the author sevenish
    The thing is that it actually is a decent method, albeit a bit grayhat. I got the method on another forum as it was offered for free, along with the scripts, by the original creator. It was a very long thread that included a lot of contributions from others as well.

    I purchased this wso clandestinely to see if it was in fact swiped from the other forum. It was. The guy didn't even change the filenames of the scripts.

    I keep seeing things from other niche marketing forums being sold here, some of which are compiled information which isn't all that bad sometimes, and some of which are outright theft of products from other vendors.

    Added: One friend of mine had his product stolen and resold here on the WSO and was caught, but I can't convince him to tell his story to appropriate authority people here ... yet. I'm still working on him. A HOT WSO that mentions "blackhat" but closes abruptly and without warning is a recurring incident for the ones I've observed.
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  • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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    Looks like he's back with a WSO already.
    Beware of anyone asking to be PM'd for a payment link.
    Especially if the processor turns out to be plimus.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Yup

      I got a response to the support ticket that I opened and was told that the user was banned.

      Chalk another one up for the good guys

      I understand that there are some people that are going to steal. I understand it so much that I expect it, it's life I guess. But, for someone that actively participates in the stealing of other peoples products to then turn around and try to profit from us makes me angry

      Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

      Looks like he's back with a WSO already.
      Beware of anyone asking to be PM'd for a payment link.
      Especially if the processor turns out to be plimus.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dixiebelle
        Things like this are really sad. It just hurts good Warriors trying to make a sale, because everyone is becoming reluctant to buy anymore.

        There should be some way to check people out before they are allowed to post a WSO.

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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Hi Jeremy,

    Yeah that sucks! But people will learn one way or the other not to trust people with no credentials.

    Lol I have a little confession to make. I know I signed up for 2 of these types of sites so I could find out who's products they were giving away. This was after I got several tips telling me that 2 of my products were on these 2 sites.

    I just beat them at their own game. Go get an account, take snapshots, notify their host and have them shut down. Plus notify people I know who had their products ripped off by these people so they can do the same.

    Gotta get the proof first somehow.


    Mary

    P.S. Hey Les, if you know who it is, shoot me a PM and I'll work on an article!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Yup, I didn't even know the site existed until another warrior sent me a PM letting me know that one of my products was just posted.

      The funniest part was that the guy was whining that someone posted his product for everyone to see when that is what the forum is for lmao

      Can anyone say irony?

      Originally Posted by mmurtha View Post

      Hi Jeremy,

      Yeah that sucks! But people will learn one way or the other not to trust people with no credentials.

      Lol I have a little confession to make. I know I signed up for 2 of these types of sites so I could find out who's products they were giving away. This was after I got several tips telling me that 2 of my products were on these 2 sites.

      I just beat them at their own game. Go get an account, take snapshots, notify their host and have them shut down. Plus notify people I know who had their products ripped off by these people so they can do the same.

      Gotta get the proof first somehow.


      Mary

      P.S. Hey Les, if you know who it is, shoot me a PM and I'll work on an article!
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