Now, Ezinearticles Tougher Than Buzzle?

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I submit an article and the word count was rather good, almost 800. I agree few ideas in my article wasn't new but it's of course not copy paste from my previous articles. I wrote them in proper new way.

EZA didn't accept my that article and the message was,"Not enough original and informative article." That's it.

I submitted the same article on Buzzle(without changing anything), and they accepted it.

It's like EZA going to beat each and every article directory. Now, they want something new and informative. By the way, it's good I am happy about it. But I was surprised to see that they are going tougher than buzzle now.
#buzzle #ezinearticles #tougher
  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    I don't care if they are going tougher than Buzzle as long as they are a good directory. That is fine if they don't want to accept crap! I totally agree with their new business plan!
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  • Profile picture of the author CraigRC
    You probably got that due to whatever niche it was for, King.

    They're applying the "not enough original" tag more frequently to categories they feel are saturated on the site (or are negatively viewed by Google).

    It's an easy way for them to decline/reject articles without officially banning that topic, and it's occurring even when the article itself was great in terms of overall quality.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bozigian
      I wonder how Sean Mize the top author of ezine is able to have his articles submitted. No offesne to him, but he submits around 4 articles a day, and most of the articles he writes are basically the same thing but worded differently.
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      • Profile picture of the author Zukario
        Originally Posted by Bozigian View Post

        I wonder how Sean Mize the top author of ezine is able to have his articles submitted. No offesne to him, but he submits around 4 articles a day, and most of the articles he writes are basically the same thing but worded differently.
        Maybe he is one of the important person in ezinearticles.com but if this is true, i still think that it is unfair.
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        • Profile picture of the author ravindergg
          is it true that ezine increase the minimum word limit to 400 words
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      • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
        Originally Posted by Bozigian View Post

        I wonder how Sean Mize the top author of ezine is able to have his articles submitted. No offesne to him, but he submits around 4 articles a day, and most of the articles he writes are basically the same thing but worded differently.
        Touche. I said the same thing in a support ticket awhile back. The response? Nothing. Never even acknowledged it.

        My point - I understand them cracking down, but having your top submitting author continue to submit content that is similar in nature day after day and continually accept it (while denying others) doesn't make sense. I also received a similar response to 2 well written articles previously. It is what it is though.
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  • Profile picture of the author DeborahDera
    Originally Posted by kingprosperity View Post

    I submit an article and the word count was rather good, almost 800. I agree few ideas in my article wasn't new but it's of course not copy paste from my previous articles. I wrote them in proper new way.

    EZA didn't accept my that article and the message was,"Not enough original and informative article." That's it.

    I submitted the same article on Buzzle(without changing anything), and they accepted it.

    It's like EZA going to beat each and every article directory. Now, they want something new and informative. By the way, it's good I am happy about it. But I was surprised to see that they are going tougher than buzzle now.
    I find that amazing, but I don't think "Buzzle" is easier than Ezines. At least Ezine will give you a reason for rejecting your article. Buzzle will simply delete them from the system with no reason given.
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  • Profile picture of the author FogHorn
    Originally Posted by kingprosperity View Post

    I submit an article and the word count was rather good, almost 800. I agree few ideas in my article wasn't new but it's of course not copy paste from my previous articles. I wrote them in proper new way.

    EZA didn't accept my that article and the message was,"Not enough original and informative article." That's it.

    I submitted the same article on Buzzle(without changing anything), and they accepted it.

    It's like EZA going to beat each and every article directory. Now, they want something new and informative. By the way, it's good I am happy about it. But I was surprised to see that they are going tougher than buzzle now.
    Buzzle articles outrank ezine all day long anyway so why post at ezine. Also, buzzle will let you place a link anywhere in the article.

    I wish Icould paste a link here to both of my accounts, my buzzle acc has like 420,000 more views than my EZA account.

    Dont rule out articlesbase either (VERY powerful) articles listed there are seriously kicking butt right now!
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  • Profile picture of the author indiatext
    Yes my friend. Ezine is becoming a harder directory now. Quality content is assured but we should now consider alternatives.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    When I complained about the fact that authors who simply repeat the same words in different ways shouldn’t have their articles accepted at EZA, and yet become top authors (3 years ago at their blog), I was attacked by everyone there.

    At that time they could simply ignore my complaints, but I don’t think that they will be able to ignore Google’s requirements. Authors who merely repeat the same words will probably lose their ranking.

    EZA is not properly working right now. They are delaying too much to accept new articles, while before they would accept my articles the next day or the same day because I’m an old author.

    I advise you to keep submitting your articles to EZA, after improving their quality. Write completely original content; make a research if you don’t know what else you could write about in your articles.

    EZA is Our article directory; we must be able to continue using it the way we need in order to get traffic, and in order to have our articles published at many other websites because their owners republish these articles with our resource box, helping us become known online.

    EZA is a very powerful article directory and it will certainly recuperate its top ranking. We should help EZA's team accomplish this goal by improving our articles’ quality. This is going to be very advantageous for us too, since we’ll get more traffic due to Google’s search algorithm changes, which work based on content evaluation.

    Write very good articles, providing your readers with excellent content, so that you may have many advantages now. Instead of complaining because everything has changed so much online and EZA is not the same, get adapted to the new situation.

    Write using many synonyms, which are keyword variations. Avoid repeating the same keyword many times, but use all possible variations you can imagine in your article, including plural or singular forms. For example: ‘website’ is a keyword, and ‘websites’ is another keyword. Don’t forget to use both in your article.

    However, remember that you have to write appealing content to the public. Don’t exaggerate with the synonyms. Write naturally, without caring about using the right keywords, and in the end change a few words if necessary, using the best keywords for each article.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bozigian
      So top alternatives......... from this thread

      Buzzle
      Article Base
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Bozigian View Post

        So top alternatives......... from this thread

        Buzzle
        Article Base
        Then this thread is misleading. (Nothing new there: many "article marketing" threads here are grotesquely misleading, and especially the ones compiled/filled by people who don't distinguish between "article marketing" and "article directory marketing").

        Bozigian, Buzzle is the one article directory that very, very few successful, experienced, professional article marketers will never use at all, for the simple reason that it's the only one that requires previously unpublished content.

        One of the most basic, most important, most fundamental principles of article marketing is that it's essential to publish your articles on your site first, and get them indexed there, before you submit them to any article directory. For all the reasons explained in this thread, in such detail, by so many successful pro's.

        There's no getting away from that: if you try using article directories without reading and understanding the points made in that thread, then you're making a big mistake. It's as simple as that. Lack of understanding of the points made and explained in that thread is the unifying feature common to all the people who struggle and struggle and struggle with what they imagine to be "article marketing" and then end up a year later starting off a thread here under the title "Article Marketing Doesn't Work Any More" (and for them, it truly doesn't!).

        You need to publish your articles on your own site first. You can't do that AND use "Buzzle". So don't use Buzzle. Simple. End of problem. Finito. Caput. Next case, please ...
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        • Profile picture of the author Bozigian
          Alexa.

          So we post to our site first and then to ezine for article juice?

          Im sorry but I read the thread that Alexa posted and it doesnt seem to have a definite answer, their is constant counterarguements
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          • Profile picture of the author Bozigian
            But what from I have read.

            Post the article to your site first/
            Wait for google to index it,
            submit to ezine, it can be the same thing
            submit to other article directories
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Originally Posted by Bozigian View Post

              But what from I have read.

              Post the article to your site first/
              Wait for google to index it,
              submit to ezine, it can be the same thing
              submit to other article directories
              Exactly so.

              Originally Posted by Bozigian View Post

              Im sorry but I read the thread that Alexa posted and it doesnt seem to have a definite answer, their is constant counterarguements
              You need to use some judgment (not quite so easy if you don't know who any of the people are, I do understand - absolutely no criticism of you implied!) and see that the successful, professional, experienced article marketers there are all saying the same thing, and all giving the same reasons for it, together with the customary scattering of people who don't quite understand the subject, don't know the difference between "duplicate content" and "syndicated content", and so on. It was ever thus, I'm afraid. That's the nearest you're going to get, in this world, to a "definitive answer".

              You should always post articles to your own site first and have them indexed there before submitting them to any article directory. It's "Article Marketing 101".

              My own 1,200+ articles at EZA were all originally published on my sites before being submitted (in identical form, but with a resource-box added) to EZA.

              There's no downside to doing it this way round.

              There's a big (and complicated, and difficult-to-explain) downside to not doing it that way round.
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              • Profile picture of the author Bozigian
                Alright Alexa, I think I understand and will change my methods.

                So from me submitting the original article to my website first. I claim the authority of my article to my website.

                And by letting it get indexed and then submitting to Ezine (the exact same article) I am getting link juice from ezine because my site is the authority figure of that same article. And if ezine rejects it then it is not big deal because i can submit to other article sites

                And so by submitting that same article to other directories like articlebase and buzzle. They are giving me juice because my website has the authority figure of that article and I just simply submitted it to buzzle and articlebase.

                Is that how it is supposed to work. And do you leave the original article on your website? or do you take if off after a couple of months?

                Do you submit the exact same article to other article directories alexa? or do you change them up a bit?
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                • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                  Originally Posted by Bozigian View Post

                  So from me submitting the original article to my website first. I claim the authority of my article to my website.

                  And by letting it get indexed and then submitting to Ezine (the exact same article) I am getting link juice from ezine because my site is the authority figure of that same article. And if ezine rejects it then it is not big deal because i can submit to other article sites
                  This is all true and correct. But it isn't my main reason for doing this.

                  My main reason is that the more often you do this, the more quickly you'll achieve a "collective situation" in which an article directory doesn't outrank your own site (even temporarily) for your own keywords.

                  When you have a new site, and do this, and then submit to EZA, the EZA copy will still typically appear higher in Google's SERP's than your own copy. Temporarily. The more often you do it, with more articles, the shorter that "temporary" time-period will be. And eventually it won't happen at all.

                  It may be that now, since Google's recent algorithm change, it's "very temporary" instead of "temporary", and it may be that there'll be a lot more instances of it not happening at all. I can't comment on this because (a) it's too early to tell, reliably, and (b) most of my sites have reached a point at which that didn't happen much anyway (and that's nothing difficult to achieve at all: I'm not talking about sites with high-PR pages, or anything that anyone can't achieve).

                  The big point here, from my perspective, and the point which it strikes me that so many people don't quite grasp, is that when someone puts one of your keywords into Google as their search terms (and the fact that they do that is the reason you chose it as your keyword, isn't it?), you want them to find the article on your own site, NOT the article directory copy.

                  This is absolutely fundamental to article marketing.

                  You want the visitor coming straight to you - 'do not pass "go", do not collect $200'.

                  If they go to an article directory instead, you may lose 50% of them right out of the gate, to the AdSense and other distractions, and then get only the ones who read your article all the way through and click on the link in your resource-box. That's not so good for you, obviously: this is a real no-brainer.

                  Originally Posted by Bozigian View Post

                  And so by submitting that same article to other directories like articlebase and buzzle.
                  Not Buzzle, because they won't accept it. They're the only ones who won't. So don't use them.

                  Originally Posted by Bozigian View Post

                  And do you leave the original article on your website? or do you take if off after a couple of months?
                  Noooo, never take it off. Let it sit there. It doesn't necessarily have to be "very easily findable" by readers of other pages there, as long as it can be found so that Google doesn't imagine you're showing the search engine something different from what you're showing a human (which they quite rightly don't like at all!). And as you write more and more articles, your site's content will grow and grow. Which is, of course, good for its on-page SEO, too.

                  Originally Posted by Bozigian View Post

                  Do you submit the exact same article to other article directories alexa?
                  I do. I get 95%+ of the value from EZA, to be honest, because I'm writing for syndication and that's where people go for content to be syndicated. But I also submit to a couple of others (typically GoArticles and ArticleBase) on the eggs and baskets principle because it would be a nuisance for me if EZA disappeared in the night, and although that's unlikely in the extreme, I trust nobody and like to cover my assets.

                  Originally Posted by Bozigian View Post

                  or do you change them up a bit?
                  I don't bother now.

                  I used to. I used to submit to about 7 directories, and change the title, keywords and resource-box a bit, and I did that for well over a year, but have stopped doing it now because I had no evidence at all that it benefitted me. I certainly wouldn't blame anyone for doing that, but it didn't help me, and it's time I'd rather spend doing something else (like posting here! ).

                  I do change one punctuation-mark in every copy, so that I can reliably identify its source when it gets syndicated. And that's how I know it's nearly always the EZA copy that gets syndicated by others.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Bozigian
                    Alright,
                    I will have to change my game plans now. thanks
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                  • Profile picture of the author ksmusselman
                    Time to start getting back into writing more articles! Thanks Alexa! :-)
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                  • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
                    Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                    I'd rather spend doing something else (like posting here! ).
                    What about this idea?

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  • Profile picture of the author raradra
    They're not going to get any easier and in fact may even crack down harder in the future. They got slapped hard with the last google update and they're changing their rules to try and climb back up.

    But look at it this way, if you do get accepted, it shows that you write quality content which is the only way to make good money in the future once google slaps us all for garbage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bozigian
    Nope sorry Kenny boy.

    I write high quality articles. I do not know about other people.
    But I always get the 'not enough original content' from ezine.

    At least I have first page for 2 of my articles from the results when you type the keyword on the ezine search engine
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  • Profile picture of the author kingprosperity
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    I counted six major errors in the post above that any editor worth his salt would reject outright.

    Hopefully, your rejected article was better.
    You right, English is not my first language. But, I write my articles with much care, proper grammar and attractive words. And, my few articles are live after those tough changes. I received that MSG on one article only.

    Here I will agree with you. Even small mistakes in an article, especially now, can dismantle the entire effort.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      You need to publish your articles on your own site first. You can't do that AND use "Buzzle". So don't use Buzzle. Simple. End of problem. Finito. Caput. Next case, please ...
      I actually heard that gavel smack down.

      is it true that ezine increase the minimum word limit to 400 words
      Wow, check out Item 2.e

      http://ezinearticles.com/editorial-guidelines.html
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  • Profile picture of the author LauraJames
    Definitely post articles you have written to your website/blog first. I also have heard from others about the issues with ezines. Glad to have some other choices.
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