Ethically speaking...

by thedog
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Hey guys, is there anything you won't market?

I mean, I caught myself looking at hunting products... I hate hunting, had to catch myself there.

Also, I got a fiverr gig for an article for an emergency preparedness site... when I went to the site, he has a big add about the Japanese Earthquake, reminding people how important it is to be prepared... I mean an actual picture of the disaster, with a big "shop now" button on it :0

I think this is in extremely bad taste.

I'd rather not write the article, is there anyway I can get out of it without getting negative feedback. Also how can I refund him/her?

I accepted the gig, as they gave me no instructions, and didn't reply to emails... so I just sent them a generic article.

Am I over reacting here?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nisip
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    Nope, you are totally right.

    Remember the thousands of tourists who took the first plane to South East Asia after the big tsunamis there which killed thousands?

    They were just going by boat and filming the thousands of dead bodies in the water, then selling the tapes.

    It was simply disgusting...
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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      Originally Posted by Nisip View Post

      Nope, you are totally right.

      Remember the thousands of tourists who took the first plane to South East Asia after the big tsunamis there which killed thousands?

      They were just going by boat and filming the thousands of dead bodies in the water, then selling the tapes.

      It was simply disgusting...
      Agree. I spent 3 months in Haiti volunteering after the earthquake. I've seen disasters on this scale up front.

      It's pretty shocking that they'd use it to sell products.

      How can I refund their money... is this an option with fiverr? Or do I have to paypal them?
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    • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
      There are lots of things i wouldn't sell, actually probably more than i would sell.

      I like to sleep soundly at night and if I have the slightest reservations about anything then i don't sell it.

      I would say though bad taste and ethics are different.

      Using a picture of the devastation in Japan for selling disaster preparedness isn't ethically wrong but yes it is in bas taste. In fact if just 1 person see's that and gets prepared and as a result a life is saved then surely thats a good thing.

      Look at the news channels and newspapaers they are selling advertising and copies on the back of wall to wall coverage. Not much difference there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nisip
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    How some of the biggest and most profitable companies in the world are selling sickness and diseases:

    Amazon.com: Selling Sickness: How the World's...Amazon.com: Selling Sickness: How the World's...

    Getting healthy people to buy drugs they don't need, which won't cure what they don't have, and potentially have unpleasant to dire side effects, sounds like such a crazy premise, even Hollywood wouldn't buy it.

    Yet that's just what's happened, as Moynihan and Cassels document in their book "Selling Sickness". The 500 billion dollar pharmaceutical industry has plenty of money to spend convincing us that our ordinary travails mask mental illnesses, and common aches and pains need treatment.

    Americans represent five percent of the world's population, but we consume fifty percent of prescription drugs.

    Millions of healthy people have asked their doctor about that purple pill they saw on television, or been given drugs pushed by the army of 80,000 drug salesmen who've influenced your doctor with free lunches and far more.

    Many people now take drugs that may have harmful side effects and won't make much of a difference in improving their health. Hormone replacement therapy turned out to increase the chance of heart attacks for women, one of the blockbuster cholesterol lowering drugs was withdrawn from the market because it was implicated in causing deaths.

    The FDA isn't looking out for you either
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    There are a lot of things I wouldn't sell, and I would refund the money for that article. To me, it's in extremely bad taste. But that's me ... you have to do what is right for you. I wouldn't presume to know what that is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Devid Farah
    Originally Posted by thedog View Post


    ...I mean an actual picture of the disaster, with a big "shop now" button on it :0

    I think this is in extremely bad taste.

    I'd rather not write the article, is there anyway I can get out of it without getting negative feedback. Also how can I refund him/her?

    I accepted the gig, as they gave me no instructions, and didn't reply to emails... so I just sent them a generic article.

    Am I over reacting here?

    Hey thedog,

    I'm with you buddy. Exploit the suffering of the people to make money is of extremely bad taste.

    Well,now,if you decided to not write the article simply shoot them a message and tell them CLEARLY your reasons.

    You will not receive a negative feedback if you decided not write the article.( in the case he/she/they will send you a negative feedback,send an email to the "Fiverr department" and tell them that you have received a fake feedback)

    You can refund them by reversing the gig.To do this you have to find a button somewhere on Fiverr( i don't remember exactly) so that you can refund the $5 automatically.

    That's it.
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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      I've decided to write the article, M Thompson, you make a good point, that even if it makes someone buy the product then it's had a positive result.

      I still don't agree with the way he's marketed it... but I did agree to the article, without fully knowing what it was... so this is also my fault.

      I'm just going to give the payment to charity, and be more careful in future.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by thedog View Post

        I've decided to write the article, M Thompson, you make a good point, that even if it makes someone buy the product then it's had a positive result.

        I still don't agree with the way he's marketed it... but I did agree to the article, without fully knowing what it was... so this is also my fault.

        I'm just going to give the payment to charity, and be more careful in future.
        This is in pretty bad taste, but I think you're more than making up for it by donating the money you make from this to charity. While it may not be much, you're at least doing some good this way, because this gig purchaser would have just gotten someone else to write the article, and this other person would have probably just pocketed the money for himself instead of donating it to charity.
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      • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
        Originally Posted by thedog View Post


        I'm just going to give the payment to charity, and be more careful in future.
        Good call !
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      • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
        Originally Posted by thedog View Post

        I've decided to write the article, M Thompson, you make a good point, that even if it makes someone buy the product then it's had a positive result.

        I still don't agree with the way he's marketed it... but I did agree to the article, without fully knowing what it was... so this is also my fault.

        I'm just going to give the payment to charity, and be more careful in future.
        Sometimes to be a writer feels like being a hired gun...

        I have written about many things I didn´t agree with. Most of the times I managed to put a twist to send people into a self empowering or awareness direction, which is my general goal.

        As time went by, I used those experiences to filter my clients and shape the way I manage my business.

        This job, and the way it evolved, taught you a great deal about yourself. Take what you learned and apply it to the future.

        Sandra
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      • Profile picture of the author Brianne
        Originally Posted by thedog View Post

        I've decided to write the article, M Thompson, you make a good point, that even if it makes someone buy the product then it's had a positive result.

        I still don't agree with the way he's marketed it... but I did agree to the article, without fully knowing what it was... so this is also my fault.

        I'm just going to give the payment to charity, and be more careful in future.
        Way to make your situation have a positive outcome. Giving the payment to charity is a nice thing to do. Definitely a good call!
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  • Profile picture of the author Nisip
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    I think and hope that still most people feel the same
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    It's true (and a little sad too), but EMOTIONS are a huge factor in marketing.

    If you're a marketer you would have a tough time to ignore this...the question is where is the limit and what do you still consider "ethical" yourself.

    If there wouldn't be emotions (hate, fear, anger, outrage, love, jealousy, joy etc..etc)...a LOT of companies would be out of business and people would hardly read any news..or buy products.
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  • Profile picture of the author AnnaHamer
    I'm very wary of what CPA products I market. Their Terms and conditions can be sketchy even at the best of times, but I stay away from products that take money even if the consumer cancels before the allotted time in a free trial. However, it really isn't my responsibility to make sure they all read the terms and conditions when they order the product. It's amazing how many people feel they have been "ripped off" just because they failed to adhere to the T&C of their free trials.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMCM
    I think you're doing the right thing by donating the $4 to charity. It's good to hear that you really thought this through, too. I am just starting out as a writer so I haven't come across anything yet that I won't write for, but I'm sure I will.

    There are some things more important than money, that is for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarah Russell
    That's a tough one. There are always going to be people who try to prosper off of other people's suffering - that's on the buyer, not on you, although I like your plan to give the money to charity.

    As for me, the most objectionable content I've ever been hired to write some ultra-derogatory PUA content written from a man's point of view. Very tough to do, and not my favorite topic to write on, but ultimately, not my place to judge the marketer's projects.

    As a marketer, though, I won't touch **** berry or other scam offers like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author veenafurtado
    Inform Fiverr about it and tell them that you do not wish to do the Gig.
    They will take care of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author daj
    CNN in my local area has been airing commercials about "sexual impotence" and "erectile dysfunction" right after breaking news footage of the Japan Earthquake and Nuclear Reactors exploding lately. I find it to be disgusting, perverted, and unethical. I never had a lot of respect for CNN in the first place, but now I won't even watch it as a news source anymore.

    I wouldn't say you're overreacting at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    You should just contact them and explain it and send refund via Paypal or whatever they say. I would not touch disaster marketing or anything that involves in profiting from pain and suffering. I'd rather sleep well at night also.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Little
    I've only ever turned down one marketing job, and that's because it was for a firearms manufacturer.

    They were one of the largest US-based manufacturers of firearms and I had no problem with that, I actually found it really intriguing and though it would be a big challenge.

    However during the interview they asked me a lot of questions along the lines of how I feel about gangs and organized crime and various other areas, and I got the strong impression that they were selling their products on the black market. That just rubbed me the wrong way so I walked away (and yes, I was offered the job with a stupidly high salary, we're talking 6 figure income).
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