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Is this a real technical dfficulty they are having or a sales tactic? If it is a sales tactic is it ethical and does it work? See my video on this:
http://timingwallstreet.com/arbitrageconspiracy.htm Curious what you think. |
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Of course it's a tactic. Where have you been? Everyone knows pissing off potential customers by wasting their time is the way you REALLY make the big bucks.
Wanna know how to really explode your offline sales? Slap your prospect right in the face. It gets them everytime. And if you make it a proper b*tch slap, they'll buy twice as much. |
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It's cute and effective the first time, maybe even the second or third time, but when every other big launch is pulling this, all it leads me personally to believe is:
You don't understand how the internet works. I've got a dedicated server for $300 a month that could probably host Google for a few hours before it melted, you are telling me you can't piece together a server that can handle a few hundred thousand people? Not to mention you can easily just call your hosting company and tell them you expect a sudden surge and to get ready for it. I think its just a shoddy practice that looks much better on paper than on practice. The first time was genius, now its just getting annoying. |
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Money isn't real, George. It doesn't matter. It only seems like it does.
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If it isn't a tactic, then it's poor planning. Either way...
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They've achieved their goal; getting people to talk about it -- because here we are.
And I thought "arbitrage" was a dirty word after the financial services meltdown. :-) |
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Launching a new product? How about spending a couple of grand and make sure the launch goes off without a hitch... | |
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I read the report and there does not seem to be anything new here.. anyone who already does PPC and CPA knows these. I think its a largely hyped product with a BIG price tag backed by BIG named gurus who wanted to make a BIG buck to help buy themselves lavish presents.
So what happens when there is poor preparation.. something goes wrong. |
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You couldn't be closer to the truth. Stirring EMOTION is the name of the game! Surprised Frank Kern didn't do it?!?!?!Either way...it's a Killer product and you're probably going to BUY it anyway right? You want what he has! $100k per day, $100k per week, $100k per month... People will be pissed off and then once you get it you will FEEL so good that you now have the product of your dreams! You will have satisfied that emotional GAP and then onto the next big launch...lol | |
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Do people who plan that poorly inspire confidence in customers? I think not. | |
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Hey Bryan,
I heard they were also giving out Millionaire Membership Blueprint as a bonus to Arbitrage Conspiracy.. how's the launch going? Roy Quote:
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Poor planning does not inspire confidence at all... this may have been a little forgivable if it had not been for all the major hype, the gurus and their testimonials and praises, the exorbitant price.. if it were a $27 product we might have just said.. "oh alright that's fine.. everybody makes mistakes"
... maybe... and what's worse is I hear of a refund policy that only gives your money back after 3 months.. I mean.. someone takes advantage of the value of your money for 3 months... for 3 months someone makes that money work for them, and not for you... when they give back that money to you it earned them something, when you get it back, it didn't earn anything |
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I'd say it's a ploy. It makes people feel that they're in so much competition to get this that if they don't get in early they will "miss out". It also keeps a level of suspense given the hype that was built up in the past few weeks. No doubt that people will be going back time after time to check the status of the thing, it's definitely inciting curiosity. It also works using reverse psychology. Telling people that they can't get something now have a good probability for making people to actually wanting it NOW.
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And YES I'm giving the first 100 people who purchase Arbitrage access to Millionaire Membership Blueprint FREE... Maybe I'm nuts for giving away $50,000 worth of Sales Revenue?? But since Aymen is giving some Super High Actionable Content I thought it was the perfect project to partner with and really make it worth its weight in Gold
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Good strategy Bryan,
You will attract highly qualified members who may become promoters for you once they see what you have for them. Regards James |
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If it's a ploy, they should have clued in all their affiliates, because I know of one who isn't pleased at all. Probably just another ploy though. Another way to instill confidence and desire in a product is to point out how inept the product owners are. That always makes me want to buy. Quote:
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![]() If it is a ploy, it is easily the dumbest anyone has ever come up with...top 3 for sure. And anyone who falls for it ain't no genius either. I mean, if you tell yourself "Well, I was on the fence about this purchase, but those technical difficulties just make it too hard to resist....".....HeLLOOOOO!!! Then again, maybe that's who they're looking for. | |||
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I'm thinking about not creating a product and doing one of these non-launches. The sales letter will never be viewable. That should really create a lot of buzz!
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Not create a product, but launch it with the non-viewable sales letter. Then, in the wake of the failure of the launch, create a bunch of blogs slamming yourself for screwing the pooch on the non-product. Then, on those blogs, sell a COMPETING product for a cheaper price. But here's the hook... Those competing products? Don't create those, either. BRILLIANT! | |
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I followed this launch with interest. I read earlier that this is a $1997 product (excluding the back-end - and someone please correct me I'm wrong).
I'm sure the value is there for some people, but in the current UK economic climate I couldn't even consider this because the short-term financial risk is too great. I'll wait for the new $7 Cliffs' Notes version, if that business model still proves attractive. On a more serious note, I find it hard to believe that a launch of this magnitude can still be plagued with technical problems. Particularly after the recent high profile launches which have been apparently plagued in recent history I'd expect to find extra attention being paid to make sure that hardware, bandwidth and other technical requirements are in place prior to launch. Even more surprising is that a select number of people seem to have got this got access to the product via a fractionally earlier launch than the official time. To me this suggests a decision to allow a select group of people access to get their campaigns running and to spread the word about the product. Of course, as I said, I could be completely wrong. I do think that, launching a product just prior to the most expensive period of the year for many worldwide, these kind of stunts stifle goodwill, rather than create a heightened sense of anticipation. I see it as working against the success of Arbitrage Conspiracy rather than for it. That said, it could be argued that it's a method that would be more successful with a smaller number of takers, rather than a larger one, in which case it could be a cunning attempt to increase the success for a more limited subset of marketers to build up for a $9997 product in the near-future. |
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Not to mention the exposure to all the people who won't get in on time and will just see the blurb about Millionaire Membership Blueprint with a strike line through it and SOLD OUT beside it. Among other things.
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And, of course next week we will all hear the "fake" number of people who have shelled out $1997 for an unknown product from an unknown guy. Just go back and read the last "Million a Day" scheme, and how so succssful it was, they ran out, probably ver batum.
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Some of the stuff you get here on the WSO forum for $17 is better than alot of stuff, and I mean it, that I have bought for $1,500 to $2,000 on these over hyped, swollen launches.
They have the money so why so many issues?, do you think they're in a mad rush to get the product out there that they cut corners testing? I'm very cautious with big launches, given there are some legitimate products out there with the legimate people behind them, however not all launch products translate well to the masses. |
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On that sales page it says that 53,211 people have signed up is this complete bs to make you sign up
Or have they really made millions already off of this product? |
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