I want to outsource article spinning!

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Hi guys,

I'm pretty tired of spinning my own articles... it takes about one hour to spin an article to about 50% with The Best Spinner (I try to have it make sense, not just replace words and submit something that people can't even read).

Does any of you know of a service or some people who spin articles for something like $5 an article? I can't afford more than that but I don't want to receive some random spinning either... I'm looking for a service that thinks about the customer's needs and does a great job.

Article writing is no pain but spinning really is! If you had any previous experiences please tell me if it also involved sentence spinning (that would be really nice).

Thanks,
George
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  • Profile picture of the author thedog
    Originally Posted by GeorgeTiganus View Post

    Hi guys,

    I'm pretty tired of spinning my own articles... it takes about one hour to spin an article to about 50% with The Best Spinner (I try to have it make sense, not just replace words and submit something that people can't even read).

    Does any of you know of a service or some people who spin articles for something like $5 an article? I can't afford more than that but I don't want to receive some random spinning either... I'm looking for a service that thinks about the customer's needs and does a great job.

    Article writing is no pain but spinning really is! If you had any previous experiences please tell me if it also involved sentence spinning (that would be really nice).

    Thanks,
    George
    Well, if you find one, can you let me know... I've had articles spun, and written in the $5 mark, and have never been happy with the results.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnmags
    Hi George, I can spin your articles for US$5 at 90% uniqueness using the Bestspinner (my account), or all sentences shall be spinned (400-word articles at 2x spin + original article). I can only accomodate to spin 3 articles at most per day since I still have regular work with other clients. Just shoot a PM if you are interested. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgeTiganus
    Actually, outsourcing article writing would be great too... I'm sure there are many topics on this subject but maybe someone can give us a valuable hint... I'm thinking about 500 word articles.

    Anyone had any positive experiences?

    A 500 word article well written and spun for 10$... that would be really nice

    Anyway, spinning is something I never would like to do again so this is what I need to take care of first.
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    • Profile picture of the author seek01
      Originally Posted by GeorgeTiganus View Post

      Actually, outsourcing article writing would be great too... I'm sure there are many topics on this subject but maybe someone can give us a valuable hint... I'm thinking about 500 word articles.

      Anyone had any positive experiences?

      A 500 word article well written and spun for 10$... that would be really nice

      Anyway, spinning is something I never would like to do again so this is what I need to take care of first.
      I can spin it for you. pls PM me...free one sample
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    • Profile picture of the author DR's Fynest
      Originally Posted by GeorgeTiganus View Post

      Actually, outsourcing article writing would be great too... I'm sure there are many topics on this subject but maybe someone can give us a valuable hint... I'm thinking about 500 word articles.

      Anyone had any positive experiences?

      A 500 word article well written and spun for 10$... that would be really nice

      Anyway, spinning is something I never would like to do again so this is what I need to take care of first.
      $10 is usually the low-end price of a very good 500 article lol. (Notice I said very good - not just 500 words on a topic)

      Back to your real need, though... spinning.

      I do my spinning myself. It does take me that long as well and I usually achieve about 70% or more uniqueness. I really wouldn't trust most others who charge $3-$5 per spin to do it because I care about the readability of the articles that come out.

      If you really want to outsource it, I recommend you post a thread in the warriors for hire section. Just list your specifications and have 1 article to give out to those who reply to show you what they can do if you were to hire them.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryantmalone
      Originally Posted by GeorgeTiganus View Post

      A 500 word article well written and spun for 10$... that would be really nice
      George, go check out Need An Article. They do have a 9$ per month membership cost (which doesn't bother me in the slightest to be honest), but their writers are second to none. Never had an article that I havent been happy with, and I set my standards high.

      For 10$ they rewrite your articles twice, and also write original articles for around 5 - 6$ a piece as well.

      I did also use another service called "The Content Authority", however I found that their articles were terribly written, and I had to send at least one in 4 articles back for a rewrite as it wouldn't pass spell checks, or was too over promotional. They are cheaper, but I warn you, they are real bottom of the barrel stuff.

      Hope that helps.
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      • Profile picture of the author DSB
        Originally Posted by ryantmalone View Post

        George, go check out Need An Article. They do have a 9$ per month membership cost (which doesn't bother me in the slightest to be honest), but their writers are second to none. Never had an article that I havent been happy with, and I set my standards high.

        For 10$ they rewrite your articles twice, and also write original articles for around 5 - 6$ a piece as well.

        I did also use another service called "The Content Authority", however I found that their articles were terribly written, and I had to send at least one in 4 articles back for a rewrite as it wouldn't pass spell checks, or was too over promotional. They are cheaper, but I warn you, they are real bottom of the barrel stuff.

        Hope that helps.
        Need An Article is a good tip - you should also check out CCArticles.
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      • "I did also use another service called "The Content Authority", however I found that their articles were terribly written, and I had to send at least one in 4 articles back for a rewrite as it wouldn't pass spell checks, or was too over promotional. They are cheaper, but I warn you, they are real bottom of the barrel stuff."

        Would like to mention you can contact TCA support at
        support@thecontentauthority.com and someone will get a hold of you to resolve any issues related to the quality of the content you are receiving. With any content service some article may come back with issues, but we don't want to be construed as "bottom of the barrel". Let me know how we can resolve any of these types of issues.

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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgeTiganus
    I'm aware that $10 is the low-end of writing + spinning and of course I'm looking for the perfect combination between quality and price (we all are).

    Anyway, spinning isn't something I would like to do everyday for the rest of my life... this is the kind of job that definitely needs to be outsourced. I'm looking for someone or some service that already has good references from other users, I think there are many warriors who use these kinds of services.

    Thanks!
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    George ,

    pls check your PM .

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    • Profile picture of the author BurgerKing
      Have you looked at Textbroker.com? for ~$8 they can write a 500 word article of good/reasonable qualitly on the topic of your choice.

      You can choose the quality from 1 - 5 (1 is just readable, 5 is magazine quality) and I used level 3 for the $8 price tag.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgeTiganus
    Thanks for the suggestions, I already have a few options to consider. Looking forward to hear some more! This forum is of real help, I 'm sure I will find a good solution eventually.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    I am spinning, but far from $5/article. Manually quality spinning an article can take at least as long as writing it from scratch...as you might know.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
    I agree with GeorgR. $5 an article will only attract low quality writers, and since writing multiple variations of each sentence to spin an article takes longer than simply writing an article, a $5 spin will probably produce even worse quality than a $5 article. But if you don't need high quality content, it may work out for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by burningdrive View Post

      I agree with GeorgR. $5 an article will only attract low quality writers, and since writing multiple variations of each sentence to spin an article takes longer than simply writing an article, a $5 spin will probably produce even worse quality than a $5 article. But if you don't need high quality content, it may work out for you.

      Not always the case! There are many up and coming writers trying to get their name out that will gladly take on work at $5 an article because they know they can eventually raise their prices.

      Also, many article writers will negotiate a smaller fee for guaranteed work. The saying you "get what you pay for" is not always true. You could easily pay $50 for a crap article. Granted the chances maybe higher at $5 that you will get a crap article, but price does not always determine quality.

      My suggestion when looking for writers is to start with ONE article and if it's good you found a winner, if not you only lose out on five bucks. Freelancer.com, odesk.com, and even fiverr.com are places to find those doing this.

      Good Luck
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      • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
        Not always the case! There are many up and coming writers trying to get their name out that will gladly take on work at $5 an article because they know they can eventually raise their prices.
        Fair enough. But it's also true that such a writer may be lacking in experience, and if that is the case, working with you will be on-the-job training for them regardless of their innate talent. That's not to say it won't work out, but your results will vary.

        My main point, though, was simply that since $5 is on the low end for article writing, it's even more of a stretch to get good spinning done for that price, since it will take longer than writing an article. I don't mean to discourage the OP from trying, though. Just my two cents!
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        • Profile picture of the author Coby
          Originally Posted by burningdrive View Post

          Fair enough. But it's also true that such a writer may be lacking in experience, and if that is the case, working with you will be on-the-job training for them regardless of their innate talent. That's not to say it won't work out, but your results will vary.

          My main point, though, was simply that since $5 is on the low end for article writing, it's even more of a stretch to get good spinning done for that price, since it will take longer than writing an article. I don't mean to discourage the OP from trying, though. Just my two cents!
          Lack of experience does not = lack of skill

          Lots of experience does not = lots of skill

          Also, keep in mind that in some economies $5 is worth MUCH more

          But yes, I agree it could be a stretch to find better writers/spinners at lower rates. Just my 2 cents
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          • Profile picture of the author Damani Tabor
            Originally Posted by Coby View Post

            Lack of experience does not = lack of skill

            Lots of experience does not = lots of skill

            Also, keep in mind that in some economies $5 is worth MUCH more

            But yes, I agree it could be a stretch to find better writers/spinners at lower rates. Just my 2 cents
            I am aware of a service called 99c articles (99c per 100 words).. Anyone have experience with them>
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            • Profile picture of the author ElMundodelExito
              Originally Posted by Damani Tabor View Post

              I am aware of a service called 99c articles (99c per 100 words).. Anyone have experience with them>
              I have and they are pretty good, IMHO. I spin them after that with The Best Spinner.
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              • Profile picture of the author lancelotfl
                If you hire an outsourcer and give them your copy of The Best Spinner, you might be ahead of the game,

                You will need to create a training video teaching the outsourcer EXACTLY how you want the article spun (readability, no unwieldy sentence structure, etc.).

                If you let The Best Spinner automatically spin for you, or hire a Third World outsourcer with poor English skills, you'll get article variations that look like they were written by a Martian and they will be close to indecipherable.

                Yes, The Best Spinner does take time, but a whole lot less time than it would take you to re-write an article 10 times.

                If you also use his Unique Article Wizard product, you can write articles extremely quickly. Do NOT, however, use the built-in spinning option. The Martians come out if you do.

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  • Profile picture of the author vheissu28
    Hey, I personally think you should concentrate more on writing very high quality articles and then re-purposing them into different formats.

    In my experience; this is far more fun, effective, less time consuming, and you can get a TRUCKLOAD of extra traffic and backlinks from this method.
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  • Profile picture of the author Casper C
    If you post in Wanted - Members Looking To Hire You, you can have people apply for any article work you need doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    There are a lot of options for outsourcing like odesk or Guru.com but you might want to start her in the warriors for hire section and see if others can really satisfy the standards you set up for a quality spun article.

    Andrea
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  • Profile picture of the author O0o0O
    Realistically speaking, you are going to have to test the waters a little to find some good article spinners. Check here at Warrior Forums in the Warriors for Hire thread. Try out a few people first and then settle for who you like best.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgeTiganus
    Here's another thing I am not sure about: which spinning method is better? Spinning whole phrases (twice for example) or spinning words like any spinner software does?

    Spinning phrases can lead to more coherent content but I don't know if, when combining the 3 variations (including the original), the article is spun enough as there will be certain sentences which repeat themselves.

    Spinning phrases + words is a little bit too much to ask from a human being so I'm just wondering which way could be more effective
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
    Originally Posted by Coby

    Lack of experience does not = lack of skill

    Lots of experience does not = lots of skill
    Well, of course not. But experience > lack of experience. When you hire a talented but inexperienced writer (which is the best-case scenario for $5, the worst case being that he or she lacks talent as well), your results will vary. Many people, myself included, have learned that the hard way.

    Originally Posted by Coby

    Also, keep in mind that in some economies $5 is worth MUCH more
    But you're also very unlikely to find native English writers there. Which, again, doesn't necessarily mean it won't work. But your results will vary.

    Originally Posted by Damani Tabor

    I am aware of a service called 99c articles (99c per 100 words).. Anyone have experience with them
    I don't want to bash them, nor am I sure that's even allowed, but I am personally wary of working with service providers who draw people in with misleading gimmicks (like basing your domain name and sales headlines on the concept of 99c articles, when you sell no such thing).
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by burningdrive View Post

      Well, of course not. But experience > lack of experience. When you hire a talented but inexperienced writer (which is the best-case scenario for $5, the worst case being that he or she lacks talent as well), your results will vary. Many people, myself included, have learned that the hard way.



      But you're also very unlikely to find native English writers there. Which, again, doesn't necessarily mean it won't work. But your results will vary.



      I don't want to bash them, nor am I sure that's even allowed, but I am personally wary of working with service providers who draw people in with misleading gimmicks (like basing your domain name and sales headlines on the concept of 99c articles, when you sell no such thing).

      I think the OP was asking for a service or a freelancer that does this? Seems like you have lots of things he SHOULDNT do but never quite answer his question.

      As for your statement about finding good $5 article writers, I hope it is based on your own experience and not just theory... Personally I have never had trouble finding a good writer, but I have a testing method I put into place for each writer to pre-qualify them.

      And as far language, that isn't as important as some think. Many article writers can write fluently in english and those who can't you will be able to tell (unless you just throw your money around blindly) rather quickly. Just because someone speaks "native english" does not mean it is "good english"... Trust Me I Live In Tennessee, lol.

      I have had good luck siphoning writers off of fiver by simply contacting them rather than just placing the order through fiverr. I have also used fiverr to start my own writing services (which I still provide quality $5 articles... but maybe I'm the exception?)

      In summary, if you do your homework you can find a good writer at a price you are willing to pay.

      Good Luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    I can create unique articles for less than $5 so why waste your money into spun and hard-to-understand articles?
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgeTiganus
      Hi Adie, I actually read your offer even before starting this post. People seem to be happy with your service and the price is great. For article writing, I have you on my list
      But my online marketing strategy involves article spinning and submitting to article directories with AMR so spinning is a must.
      Man, I still don't have 30 posts to send PMs, what a headache!!! )
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      • Profile picture of the author wooster82
        Originally Posted by GeorgeTiganus View Post

        Hi Adie, I actually read your offer even before starting this post. People seem to be happy with your service and the price is great. For article writing, I have you on my list
        But my online marketing strategy involves article spinning and submitting to article directories with AMR so spinning is a must.
        Man, I still don't have 30 posts to send PMs, what a headache!!! )
        Hello,

        I'm facing the same issue. Did you find the way to outsource the article spinning activity? Sorry,I'm writing here, because I have no enough posts for PM.

        Thank you!
        Peter
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Adie View Post

      I can create unique articles for less than $5 so why waste your money into spun and hard-to-understand articles?
      Nice Adie, ok warriors this is the best piece of info you will read on the warrior forum today.

      I toooooootally agree, Stop spinning your articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
    I think the OP was asking for a service or a freelancer that does this? Seems like you have lots of things he SHOULDNT do but never quite answer his question.
    Where in your posts did you answer his question, again?

    When you replied to me, I wasn't the only one who had given the OP a response which didn't revolve around where to find a cheapo article writer/spinner who may yield poor results. I'm sorry if you take issue with my posting, but I will continue to speak my mind nonetheless.

    As for your statement about finding good $5 article writers, I hope it is based on your own experience and not just theory...
    Please read what I wrote again, Coby.

    Personally I have never had trouble finding a good writer, but I have a testing method I put into place for each writer to pre-qualify them.
    Perhaps you should post your testing method so that people who read your advice can also avoid the pitfalls you're avoiding, then, since you're recommending for them to award projects to low-cost writers. Seems like the right thing to do.

    And as far language, that isn't as important as some think. Many article writers can write fluently in english and those who can't you will be able to tell (unless you just throw your money around blindly) rather quickly
    I did say, "your results will vary," instead of, "it won't work." But I definitely agree with the premise that you must evaluate their work before handing over any serious amount of money.

    I have had good luck siphoning writers off of fiver by simply contacting them rather than just placing the order through fiverr. I have also used fiverr to start my own writing services (which I still provide quality $5 articles... but maybe I'm the exception?)
    Talented writers who work on the cheap are out there. But cheap writers are less likely to be talented, and cheap writers who are talented are usually inexperienced. There is a reason why they are working on the cheap, and it's not because they don't want more money. Captain Obvious has spoken.

    At this point, I think we're in danger of hijacking the thread, so if you would like to discuss this further, please send me a PM.
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by burningdrive View Post

      Where in your posts did you answer his question, again?

      When you replied to me, I wasn't the only one who had given the OP a response which didn't revolve around where to find a cheapo article writer/spinner who may yield poor results. I'm sorry if you take issue with my posting, but I will continue to speak my mind nonetheless.
      Please refer to my first reply.


      Perhaps you should post your testing method so that people who read your advice can also avoid the pitfalls you're avoiding, then, since you're recommending for them to award projects to low-cost writers. Seems like the right thing to do.
      All my info has come from what I have learned in this forum. Here are some threads to reference...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ly-writer.html
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tsourcers.html
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-way-amie.html

      And many more can be found with a quick search.

      I did say, "your results will vary," instead of, "it won't work." But I definitely agree with the premise that you must evaluate their work before handing over any serious amount of money.
      Exactly, so no reason to persuade others to think it is impossible. That was my point.

      Talented writers who work on the cheap are out there. But cheap writers are less likely to be talented, and cheap writers who are talented are usually inexperienced. There is a reason why they are working on the cheap, and it's not because they don't want more money. Captain Obvious has spoken.
      Not always the case... Like saying are 'Gurus' are knowledable and not just preaching theory... But we are just splitting hairs now

      At this point, I think we're in danger of hijacking the thread, so if you have anything else to say to me, send me a PM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
    Please refer to my first reply.
    It contains no reference to article spinning.

    All my info has come from what I have learned in this forum. Here are some threads to reference...

    Tips in picking a good VA, especially writer
    Outsourcing - Don't start with full-time outsourcers.
    Outsourcing the right way.. [From Amie]

    And many more can be found with a quick search.
    Thanks. I think this addition makes it far less likely that someone will read your advice and be left wondering how to separate the low-cost providers who can actually perform adequately from the rest whose rates are low because the quality of their work is low. Unfortunately, many people never seek out a forum's search function.

    Exactly, so no reason to persuade others to think it is impossible. That was my point.
    Sure, fair enough. It seems like the discussion really could have ended after our initial exchange, since you had already said, "Not always the case," and I had already replied by restating my point in a way which precludes any arguments over the absoluteness of what is generally true.

    Not always the case...
    Indeed. Please note my use of qualifiers like "usually."

    Like saying are 'Gurus' are knowledable and not just preaching theory...
    I'm not sure that's in the same category as a simple observation that the low-cost providers of any service tend to provide lower quality than those who can command higher rates ("tend to").
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    I've used Belinda Mooney from here on the warrior forum, and she always did a quality spin for a decent price, close to what you're looking for.

    I haven't used her services in a while, so I don't know if she's still even taking orders or now, but it'd be worth searching for her thread if you're looking for someone.

    Or, you could just submit the article without spinning. Duplicate content only relates to content found on the same website. Syndication is when your article gets picked up and spread across the next. A well syndicated article must be pretty good to get put on so many websites...

    Food for thought, good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Ashbrook
    I am watching this thread with interest as I have also been looking for somebody that can provide quality article spinning.

    I have tried posting in the 'Warriors wanted' section and although I found a couple of good overseas writers that provided great value for money, I'm really looking for a higher quality.

    I've seen the post by Belinda Moody, but unfortunately she seems to be overwhelmed with work.
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