Is anybody actually making money with Kindle books?

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Hey,

I just wanted to ask this question:

Is anybody actually making money selling Kindle books?

It is a hot topic, but I don't know anybody who would be making money with these little books.

If somebody is making money with that, could you reveal us how much you're making?

I am already making money from internet marketing and I am really curious about Kindle books, but I don't think it is worth my time.

What do you think?

Thanks,
Matt Poc
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  • Profile picture of the author royljestr
    Well, I'm pretty sure Amazon is :-) Beyond that...most of the "Make Money using Kindle" things are garbage...they basically tell you to take your PLR and sell them as kindle book and then before you know it you will be making millions...or should I say you will actually be making nothing
    • Profile picture of the author Afreidman
      Heya,

      I saw a webinar recently about it that really made me excited about giving it a try...

      After a day or two i realized that its basically putting out crap on amazons website.

      A better idea is put your reports up on there to get more credibility in your niche!
    • Profile picture of the author Page-One
      Don't know if I saw the same webinar you did, but a couple days ago I went to a webinar replay about Kindle. Downloaded the vid rather than watching it onsite. Glad I did. Webinar was a couple hours long. Skipping through to the end, I saw the "sell" for a $1,000 "Make Kindle Money" package.

      Into Ye Olde Recycle Binne it went!

      If the guy is making such a killing with Kindle, why does he need to charge an obscene price for his great wisdom?
    • Profile picture of the author Matt Poc
      Originally Posted by royljestr View Post

      Well, I'm pretty sure Amazon is :-) Beyond that...most of the "Make Money using Kindle" things are garbage...they basically tell you to take your PLR and sell them as kindle book and then before you know it you will be making millions...or should I say you will actually be making nothing
      Ha ha, this is a really great point, Amazon is really making money from Kindle books

      By the way, I know a few people who make money with Kindle books, but most of them take regular ebooks and convert them for other people for a fee
  • Profile picture of the author jonnyrhinestone
    I'm pretty sure the only people that make money with Kindle books are authors, and publishers, not marketers. I think for marketers and others it's more of a way to increase your awareness, visibility, and credibility rather than make money.
  • Profile picture of the author Nick30
    i couldnt imagine so.
  • Profile picture of the author fitz10
    Yes, people right here in the Warrior Forum are making money from it, but they aren't using garbage tactics like using crappy PLR.
    • Profile picture of the author mmixon
      I make $100 a month every month. I have 500+ plr books uploaded, but sell about 50 of them over and over.
      The books that sell??? The ones that women that watch Oprah would buy. Forget about anything to do with internet marketing.
      Write your own or find some good plr books or public domain books.
    • Profile picture of the author Realnz
      Originally Posted by fitz10 View Post

      Yes, people right here in the Warrior Forum are making money from it, but they aren't using garbage tactics like using crappy PLR.
      Crappy PLR? Look at the second thing you promote in your signature.
    • Profile picture of the author slw081066
      Originally Posted by fitz10 View Post

      Yes, people right here in the Warrior Forum are making money from it, but they aren't using garbage tactics like using crappy PLR.
      I don't even think you're technically allowed to use PLR on Kindle. I think they also frown on compiling blog posts into a book. I'm working on a book I plan to sell on Kindle and then read about that, because I do include some things I wrote in the past in there, so now I have to edit the whole thing to ensure that the quality is what Kindle wants. I have purchased a few Kindle books that were total crap though so I'm not sure how great their quality control is.
  • Profile picture of the author donhx
    I have some full length books I have written on Amazon, both in print and in Kindle format.

    The distributor (Amazon) or the format (print, Kindle) does not change the dynamics of book marketing, and that it you must promote your books like crazy to get decent sales. The distributor and format guarantees nothing. The trick, as always, is in the marketing.

    Personally, I am sorry that PLR and other crap is making making it onto Amazon. More unreasoned "get-rich-quick" opportunism as far as I'm concerned. It won't work on Amazon for two reasons: Amazon takes too big of a bite for it to be seriously profitable, and because Amazon will be clearing out junk just as Google is doing.
    • Profile picture of the author Canuckystan
      Making sales on Kindle is tough. I have a fiction book on there with a bunch of great reviews and crappy sales numbers. At first I spent 4 hours a day marketing it and it was doing pretty well. As soon as I stopped marketing as much sales tanked. There is just too much crap on there for readers to find you organically.

      The exceptions like Amanda Hocking prove the rule.
  • Profile picture of the author Daredevil Marketing
    We've been testing in the space for a while now and have had mixed results. We're finally fine-tuning what seems to be a profitable strategy and dumping what hasn't worked for us.

    Like donhx said, there's a LOT of crap making its way into the markets now and the real challenge is making your products stand out from the crowd. Doing that has made the major difference between profitable products and busts for us.

    Make no mistake, there's lots of opportunity there but from our experience, the WSO's that were made concerning Kindle marketing were way off mark. I'm not saying that they won't work, but we've been testing the market for well over 13 months now and anything remotely close to what those guides taught were not only not profitable, but were complete busts - meaning that even massive tweaking couldn't turn the project(s) profitable.

    However, a few different approaches have returned promising results but I'm afraid that is information I'll have to keep to myself for the time being.
  • Profile picture of the author thegotoguy
    I suggest you get into private label publishing. By buying ebooks with PLR rights you can render them to PDF after adding your name and URLS and then list them on Amazon. But you should also list them on your own sites and blogs and then offer them in multiple formats like e-Pub and mobi as well as PDF. I sell a few books on Amazon here and there (not enough to brag about), but I sell tons of tablet books in my tablet book store. But just like Amazon, you have to market your own sites and blogs (if you choose to sell on them) day in and day out. So in essence, there is no easy fix for increasing your sales but I'd rather keep 70% of my book sales (minus the paypal fee) than to get a 30% commission for working my tail off to push Amazon books. I hope that makes sense.
  • Profile picture of the author Kierkegaard
    I put stuff on Amazon as a book, people buy it and I get money. As long as you get an ISBN, somewhere like lulu will sort out getting it on Amazon for free. I don't market the Amazon side, the sales I get must be from people browsing Amazon and finding it. Although I noticed the other day that the Amazon page was appearing Google for my keywords.

    Scaling things up I could make quite decent money selling books on Amazon.
  • Profile picture of the author thegotoguy
    I agree, it all boils down to your marketing potential and the willpower to invest your time to do it.
    • Profile picture of the author imon32red
      I make a living from selling Kindle books. I don't sell PLR or any other crap. I have sold public domain titles in the past, but Amazon doesn't allow them. In order to make money on the Kindle these days you must have first rate work, multiple books, and you have to build your own following. There was a time when you could put a book up on Amazon and people would at least try it. Those days are gone thanks to all the people selling PLR and other crap.
  • Profile picture of the author cage73
    I published my first book on February 19th of this year and so far to date I have made 74 sales from that one book. My second book which was published around the 1st of March has garnered 27 sales. That is definitely not going to break the bank but I was able to find a hungry market that is willing to spend money for information on this particular subject. My plans are now to upscale my efforts and write more books in this particular subject. I actually have two more books that should be completed within a day or two. So far I have not done any marketing for these books but plan to get the ball rolling in the next few days.

    I'm not using any PLR for these books but a combination of Public Domain material and my own knowledge of this particular subject.

    Publishing on Kindle is no different than creating products for any particular market. Find a market with hungry buyers, create a quality product and if your lucky the sales will start rolling in.
  • Profile picture of the author limestone614
    I've read a bunch of stories where people are making money from kindle, in a number of ways too.

    Kindle is a huge market. 60,000 x 99c = ....

    Write a short Story....
    • Profile picture of the author georgebush
      Originally Posted by limestone614 View Post

      I've read a bunch of stories where people are making money from kindle, in a number of ways too.

      Kindle is a huge market. 60,000 x 99c = ....

      Write a short Story....
      i am writing a story which i will finish around april 2012

      i have written 2 non fiction ebooks which took ages to create from scratch
      having first researched the numbers on google beforehand and got a good covers etc
      but i have made 3 sales on 2 ebooks in 3 months!!!! what a poor investment in time. i hope my story works out much better
  • Profile picture of the author nick3592
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Originally Posted by Matt Poc View Post

    I am already making money from internet marketing and I am really curious about Kindle books, but I don't think it is worth my time.

    What do you think?

    Thanks,
    Matt Poc
    In a 'book launch' for the Kindle, I sold over 100 copies of "47 Hearts"
    with a week's promotion.

    If you already have ebooks that are selling online, then the Kindle
    store offers a nice additional channel to get your ideas out there and
    read by a fresh new audience you can't reach otherwise.

    From that aspect, how much "money you make" depends upon so much more
    than just how many copies you sell on the Kindle store, or what your
    royalty payments from it are!

    Smart digital publishers are jumping all over this opportunity because
    they see Amazon.com as doing them a massive favor - by AGGREGATING an
    audience, and letting them sell to it!

    The equivalent, in IM terms, would be for someone to build an email
    list of 5 million people - and then let you post your ad on it, for
    FREE!


    With *any* form of "book marketing", you need a 'platform'. With it,
    even a mediocre piece of writing can become a "best seller". Without
    it, you could be the next J.K.Rowling - and sell a copy every month,
    if you're lucky!

    All success
    Dr.Mani
  • Profile picture of the author Mark Jordan
    Yes, when it was still starting. But now that Amazon imposed so many rules it's getting harder and harder to add new ebooks. However, the old ebooks that were posted are still making money but not as it used to.
  • Profile picture of the author Rambo007
    For those that are making money,

    How did you promote the books?
  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I am from oz, i thought it was harder for us to make it with kindle books.

    Isnt there some strange clause for aussies. I would love to know.

    Cheers

    Celente.
    • Profile picture of the author ebooks4u
      Amazon has announced that they will delete all PLR Kindle books from their site.

      Here's their email that I got recently:

      "Undifferentiated public domain titles will no longer be offered for sale in the Kindle Store. Examples not considered differentiated include a linked table of contents, formatting improvements, collections, sales rank, price, freely available Internet content, etc. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation. Regards, Kindle Direct Publishing"
  • Profile picture of the author lalou
    Perry Marshall recently did a webinar on the subject. (And he wasn't trying to sell anything that day!) He reckoned it's a nice little earner. Like others have said you can't publish crap, because stuff does get reviewed.

    The 2 things I got from Perry's presentation were 1) it's very easy to put something up, but a lot of people are 'frightened' so you can get paid just to do that. And there are a few SEO-type tricks in terms of what title you give the thing.

    And 2) the real key lies in underpinning it with good SEO
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Matt Poc View Post

    Is anybody actually making money selling Kindle books?
    Yes ... this gentleman, who had no previous writing experience, has recently sold over 1,000,000 very short books on Kindle for $0.99 each, and made a lot of money out of it.

    There's more information here and on this blog he answers maybe 100 questions about exactly how he does it (that one was written a few months before he joined the "million seller club").
    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Yes ... this gentleman, who had no previous writing experience, has recently sold over 1,000,000 very short books on Kindle for $0.99 each, and made a lot of money out of it.

      There's more information here and on this blog he answers maybe 100 questions about exactly how he does it (that one was written a few months before he joined the "million seller club").
      Thanks Alexa - I was just getting ready to click over to kindle to see if maybe that is where I'll want to put my estory "Saving Ricky". All I see as being a problem is trying to figure out how to format the thing. I am soooooo not a tech.

      I will, though, be using it in the next month or two and will be glad to post my experience with it on the WF. If I can figure out how to get it loaded up and formatted anyhow. LOL.
    • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Yes ... this gentleman, who had no previous writing experience, has recently sold over 1,000,000 very short books on Kindle for $0.99 each, and made a lot of money out of it.

      There's more information here and on this blog he answers maybe 100 questions about exactly how he does it (that one was written a few months before he joined the "million seller club").
      Fiction seems to be selling better than non fiction, isn´t it?
  • Profile picture of the author Marc Philipp Schildmann
    Originally Posted by Matt Poc View Post

    Hey,

    I just wanted to ask this question:

    Is anybody actually making money selling Kindle books?

    It is a hot topic, but I don't know anybody who would be making money with these little books.

    If somebody is making money with that, could you reveal us how much you're making?

    I am already making money from internet marketing and I am really curious about Kindle books, but I don't think it is worth my time.

    What do you think?

    Thanks,
    Matt Poc
    Sure, you make make a few bucks. But: Can you make a living from it? I really dont think so. Just my 2 cents.
  • Profile picture of the author colinph970
    no doubt that you can make a living from it......some very simple guidelines;

    1. Original content only that is also quality (write or buy)
    2. good 2d cover - don't bother with 3d ebook cover
    3. good reviews.....links to first point
    4. correct tags (based on decent search terms)
    5. decent title (based on good search terms)

    THATS IT.....5 SIMPLE LITTLE SO CALLED "SECRETS"......AND YOU WILL GENERATE A DECENT PASSIVE INCOME.....

    enjoy!
    • Profile picture of the author georgebush
      hasn't helped me.
      i have 2 original kindle ebooks that took me months to write!, both have good covers and tags but i've only sold 3! in three months. it seems you have to hit a jackpot with the topics -- even though i did research the topic and (numbers per month before hand so it is strange that i haven't made more sales. is it just the lucky few?

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