How bad will this chargeback reflect on my Paypal account?

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I had a chargeback recently, first one I've one had so hopefully this won't reflect on the account too bad.

The customer bought the product over 2 months ago, never expressed any concern, never asked for a refund. Guess he saw the $97 billed to his credit card and figured he needed money.

How bad do these things reflect on your account? I'm starting to realize just how much my business, livelihood, and the livelihood of my new employees relies on paypal. And I've heard the horror stories out there!

- Reilly
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  • Profile picture of the author daddykool
    Split the worry down Jim!

    You will need, on average, 3 strikes of up to $250, or 7(ish) strikes of lower amounts before you get flagged, this is obviously subject to certain *other* criteria that only PP's system knows!

    Get rid of just relying on one processor and if possible try and get signed up for a few others, even offering Direct Deposit, Chq in the mail, Branch payment, Cash in the mail is better than 1) giving the vultures that do random chargebacks to screw you over your time 2) PP even more reason to shut your account!

    Even bartering for a deal with a buyer for your goods in exchange for services that you can sell for CASH, is sometimes better than being at PP's mercy!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jimmy Reilly
      Well that is a relief,

      AND a serious wake up call...

      I need to look into merchant accounts and other payment processors. It's really quite scary to think of what could happen being at PP's mercy like this.

      Originally Posted by daddykool View Post

      Split the worry down Jim!

      You will need, on average, 3 strikes of up to $250, or 7(ish) strikes of lower amounts before you get flagged, this is obviously subject to certain *other* criteria that only PP's system knows!

      Get rid of just relying on one processor and if possible try and get signed up for a few others, even offering Direct Deposit, Chq in the mail, Branch payment, Cash in the mail is better than 1) giving the vultures that do random chargebacks to screw you over your time 2) PP even more reason to shut your account!

      Even bartering for a deal with a buyer for your goods in exchange for services that you can sell for CASH, is sometimes better than being at PP's mercy!
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  • Profile picture of the author Nate Simms
    Ugh, I hate chargebacks. I have absolutely no problem issuing a refund -- all the person needs to do is contact me through a PM here or simply drop me an e-mail.

    Nonetheless, I have had quite a few chargebacks over the years and have NEVER heard a thing from PayPal. I think the amount of sales I have (with no problems) heavily outweigh the chargebacks I receive.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jimmy Reilly
      Originally Posted by NateSimms View Post

      Ugh, I hate chargebacks. I have absolutely no problem issuing a refund -- all the person needs to do is contact me through a PM here or simply drop me an e-mail.

      Nonetheless, I have had quite a few chargebacks over the years and have NEVER heard a thing from PayPal. I think the amount of sales I have (with no problems) heavily outweigh the chargebacks I receive.
      Thanks Nate, I won't stress it as much then.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficGuy Claude
    You're right my friend. Don't rely too much on Paypal, because if they shut you down, your income immediately stops.

    Get other accounts as soon as possible, even if you never use them.

    Some good ones are:

    Clickbank
    Google Checkout
    2Checkout

    Its really easy to quickly swap out buy-now button code if you get limited, but its a nightmare to have your business frozen in its tracks because they are reviewing your documents and stuff due to a limitation.

    Just be safe and not sorry.
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  • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
    Welcome to my world. I sell all sorts of products and services using PayPal
    as a means of accepting payments... even though I do have a merchant
    account. In fact, I do have a large volume of orders come in that are for
    custom made products. Custom made products are not covered under Buyer
    Protection. I still act as if it does though and work with people if they have
    any disputes, claims or chargebacks.

    In the event you feel like blowing some steam and venting to the buyer, do
    not do it at PayPal's dispute messaging center. Be as professional as you
    can with your words. Their dispute resolution specialists may read those
    communications.

    If you have it in mind you are going to have disputes, claims, chargebacks
    and refund requests, it will be easier on yourself. Consider it a cost of
    doing business. When these things happen, follow up fast and if necessary,
    just give them a refund to resolve the situation.

    It's not all that uncommon that after a chargeback is resolved, like 80 days
    later, the buyer gets their money back and you get left with a $20 chargeback
    processing fee, of which PayPal claims it costs them about $200 to actually
    process that claim. It use to be only $10, but they upped that fee.

    My merchant account charges me $25 for every chargeback I receive. Knock
    on wood, I haven't received one yet with them. One thing you can do is over-
    emphasize at your site to have the buyer contact you first to resolve any
    issues before taking any actions with their credit card company. Make sure
    your checkout information for the buyer is the same as your company info.
    The reason being is they could check their credit history on their statement
    and see a charge they don't recognize, then file a chargeback for it. I have
    multiple businesses and once did a transaction where the buyer didn't
    recognize the name on their statement and as a result, I was hit with the
    chargeback.

    With PayPal I've had about 8 chargebacks spread over several years. Add
    several refund requests, disputes and claims. I don't know if PayPal is saying
    this to everyone, but they've always been lately saying I'm a "Top Customer".
    PP has received many $$ from me for transaction fees. I better be a "Top
    Customer". LOL!

    Also, to get educated and hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak, call
    them and ask about your concerns with chargebacks. They'll tell you straight
    about it and how it affects your account. There's also links within your
    account about avoiding chargebacks. Looks like in your situation none of
    that info could have helped you. Sometimes you get a chargeback and
    there's nothing you could have done to prevent it.

    I wouldn't sweat one chargeback. If I were you, I'd contact the buyer
    and ask them why they did a chargeback. It could have been an error on
    their part. There also may be something you could do to resolve the
    situation and may get that $97 back. If the buyer is willing feeling the
    situation is resolved and to help speed up the process, you can request
    the buyer to contact their cc company and have them stop the chargeback
    right away. It would be better than having your money tied up for 75+
    days because during that time, your money is held in escrow until it's resolved.

    LastWarrior
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    • Profile picture of the author slayerduck
      Before doing any purchase or sale its best to check cbfraud.com to see if the email who you are selling/buying from has committed fraud before.

      If unfortunately you already got scammed you can help us by adding his/her email to our database here: cbfraud.com/report

      By generating a database of fraudulent users we can hopefully archive less scams.
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