Is it my eyes that are failing?

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Over the last few weeks I have done a lot of Internet searching and the web sites are becoming increasingly harder to read. I have to increase the size of the font on just about all of them but sometimes even this doesn't work. When there are numbers, for instance, I find it very difficult to distinguish between 8 and 3 or 5 and 3, and so on. Yet I find now that most of the sites are making their numbers, and their text, smaller and smaller.

This is something I am very conscious of on my my sites. If people have a hard job reading your work then what's the point. I think the web experience should be enjoyable and not causing severe eye strain.

Surely that's something to take into account when setting up a site. Don't you think so? As I get older and the eyesight takes a bashing it might be that some sites will not even be looked at but simply turned away from.

Many people wear glasses and probably face these difficulties so I wanted to bring it to the attention of web masters and warriors in here to counteract the problem where possible.

The other day I had to renew my drivers license and do an eye test. The lady serving me was about half my age or less and commented that she wished she had as good eyesight as I apparently do and yet I struggle. She needs glasses to see everything.

God bless,

Norma
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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    Well I always thought that type "2" font was too small so I use type "3." Because I want my web pages to be as easy to read as possible. Plus I'm egotistical and like printing in big font. By the way you can always adjust the text size using your browser. Somtimes I like to put it on the smallest setting and pretend that I'm a giant.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christie Love
    I always try to adjust the font of my websites to make it easier to read. I only use glasses when working on the computer. I can see everything else just fine but the computer screen looks like one big blur. Go figure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen McPherson
    Hi Norma, I'm from Canberra as well ! The places you meet. I agree, font size is important, especially for numbers. Although, I don't have any problems with the numbers on this forum...and they're quite small. How do you find them ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
      Originally Posted by Stephen McPherson View Post

      Hi Norma, I'm from Canberra as well ! The places you meet. I agree, font size is important, especially for numbers. Although, I don't have any problems with the numbers on this forum...and they're quite small. How do you find them ?
      Hi Stephen, nice to know you. Are you enjoying the rain? Numbers are the biggest problem but so too are sites with black type over dark colored backgrounds. I also have trouble with psychedelic colors that tend to make the words bounce in some ways

      Originally Posted by Snidge

      When you look around the web you will notice that the less professional a site is, usually they have larger font!
      I disagree with that comment. One of the original pioneers in IM was Cory Rudl who wrote extensively on this issue. He commented that making your site as user friendly as possible translates into sales. I tend to agree.

      Who would read a newspaper if you had to stick the page under a strong light and wear a magnifying glass to read it. That's why the editors take care to ensure they can be easily read.

      Norma
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      • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
        I started having similar problems 6 years ago. I thought that I had damaged my eyes with too much time on the computer but my optician said that it's an age thing. My prescription hadn't altered but I needed varifocals for reading, trouble is I would have to perform acrobatics to be able to use the varifocal bit to view my computer screen.
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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
          Did you upgrade your computer recently?

          If you did then it is probably the hi-def screen that's the culprit.

          You can also try adjusting the screen definition properties back to 1024x768
          or lower.
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        • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
          Originally Posted by PatriciaJ View Post

          I started having similar problems 6 years ago. I thought that I had damaged my eyes with too much time on the computer but my optician said that it's an age thing. My prescription hadn't altered but I needed varifocals for reading, trouble is I would have to perform acrobatics to be able to use the varifocal bit to view my computer screen.
          A simple solution that I found to help with the intensity of the light on the eyes was to get a roll of film from the local car accessories shop that you normally use to partly block out the sun into your car by applying it to the windows. I cut a piece a bit larger than my browser and hung it over attaching it to the rear. It has helped a lot, especially with the dry eye problem, but still not good enough with hard to read sites.

          God bless

          Norma
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      • Profile picture of the author snidge
        Originally Posted by Norma Holt View Post

        Hi Stephen, nice to know you. Are you enjoying the rain? Numbers are the biggest problem but so too are sites with black type over dark colored backgrounds. I also have trouble with psychedelic colors that tend to make the words bounce in some ways



        I disagree with that comment. One of the original pioneers in IM was Cory Rudl who wrote extensively on this issue. He commented that making your site as user friendly as possible translates into sales. I tend to agree.

        Who would read a newspaper if you had to stick the page under a strong light and wear a magnifying glass to read it. That's why the editors take care to ensure they can be easily read.

        Norma
        It is just sort of amateur in my opinion. I do design & development and 90% of the sites that come to me needing to be revamped have HUGE font sizes. It's incredibly hard to make a site look professional using large fonts.

        As for small, I'm not talking tiny. We are talking 12 - 13px.
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      • Profile picture of the author jh.consultants
        Originally Posted by Norma Holt View Post

        Who would read a newspaper if you had to stick the page under a strong light and wear a magnifying glass to read it. That's why the editors take care to ensure they can be easily read.

        Norma
        Hiya Norma...saving the Headlines...isn't that exactly what newspapers do. *shows her his magnifyin' glass*

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  • Profile picture of the author snidge
    When you look around the web you will notice that the less professional a site is, usually they have larger font!

    I feel for you though. I was dealing with a problem similar and thought I had damaged my eyes. It seems to come and go. I visited an eye doctor and found that my eyes were working perfect. I don't know what could be wrong but it is very stressfull with the work I do! It's like I need to get as much done while I am young as I can lol.

    I do my best to take it easy. If I could read without getting this weird eye strain, I'd be making a lot more money, that's for sure! lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
    I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. I can see everything just fine. You must be imagining it...

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    • Profile picture of the author TelZilla
      Originally Posted by tommygadget View Post

      I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about. I can see everything just fine. You must be imagining it...

      TomG.
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      I....haven't....

      aww the heck with it. Next post. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author TelZilla
    Well, maybe...

    I'm 45 and wear bifocals all the time. No line bifocals for normal wear, and a special set for computer work, which really make me look like the geek I am, or so my wife says.

    When I'm building a site, I almost always (99.5%) use a 10pt font for the base font size. I find that it's a good size for vision-challenged people like myself :p

    Regardless of the information on the page, if I can't read it from 2 feet away, I'm gone. I'm not going to waste my time trying to decipher what is written on a page with super tiny type.
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  • Profile picture of the author allisonwahm
    Thanks for the advice. I've never really thought about that specific thing as being a turnoff to others. I myself am turned off of small font, but I can read it if I strain. My mother on the other hand(who is on up there in age) will just not read something if she has to pull out her glasses. That's advice to be applied.
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    • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
      Originally Posted by allisonwahm View Post

      Thanks for the advice. I've never really thought about that specific thing as being a turnoff to others. I myself am turned off of small font, but I can read it if I strain. My mother on the other hand(who is on up there in age) will just not read something if she has to pull out her glasses. That's advice to be applied.
      Allison I think you struck the right cord. It seems that the young (er) have no trouble with small fonts and I never did either once. But after 45 or so your eyes change and, let's face it, there are an awful lot of oldies using the Internet. But many younger people also have problems, as I mentioned in my first post. Wearing glasses, in my case, tends to make the matter worse as there is nothing wrong with my eye sight under normal circumstances.

      What is the deal with bigger font? I mean it doesn't cost any extra for space etc. and the colors, weeelll. Not too many are commenting on that one.

      Its interesting getting the different perspectives.

      Norma
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  • Profile picture of the author keywordguru
    I would agree to say that you should double check all of your monitor and resolution settings to be sure there isn't a problem there first.

    I had the same feeling of strain on one of my computer's and would find myself not wanting to look at the screen for long periods of time. Turned out to be a video card that didn't do well in 2D windows mode. I got a new video card and the problem went away.

    Might not be your problem too, but figured I would mention it in case.
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    • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
      Originally Posted by keywordguru View Post

      I would agree to say that you should double check all of your monitor and resolution settings to be sure there isn't a problem there first.

      I had the same feeling of strain on one of my computer's and would find myself not wanting to look at the screen for long periods of time. Turned out to be a video card that didn't do well in 2D windows mode. I got a new video card and the problem went away.

      Might not be your problem too, but figured I would mention it in case.
      Its not the computer screen that does it but the size of the print and the colors. It seems to go over the heads of the young but surely older people and the sight handicapped are also customers.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        My eye strain on the computer decreased drastically after I change to using light gray as default background color and disappeared when I got a new monitor.

        I was dealing with a problem similar and thought I had damaged my eyes. It seems to come and go. I visited an eye doctor and found that my eyes were working perfect. I don't know what could be wrong
        Does it only happen when you are using the computer? I had something similar and thought it was computer related until it started happening when I was driving or reading a book. Turned out it was nothing to do with my eyes - but a very low blood sugar level that was causing it and THAT was caused by my habit of skipping meals (mainly because I was busy on the computer).

        LOL - guess it was the computer's fault after all!

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        • Profile picture of the author Jeff Henshaw
          When I'm building a site, I almost always (99.5%) use a 10pt font for the base font size. I find that it's a good size for vision-challenged people like myself :p
          Most government and local government departments and divisions in the UK use 12pt as the standard base font. That helps people with certain eye sight problems read both on line and off line communications more easily.

          Eye strain is a problem for many, especially as we get older, but obviously there has to be a limit to the font size that can be realistically used as a standard base font.

          Black print on a white background is often considered the most effective for reading, but after reading this thread, that is clearly not the case for people with certain eye conditions.

          There seems to be no blanket answer to this.

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  • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
    UI like black or dark brown, green or red on white as the most agreeable to my eyes. As for large print not being professional enough I think the word "professional" is overdone. Give me an easy to read web site every time over one that requires eye gymnastics to read.

    God bless

    Norma
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  • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
    Boy, I can hardly see at times after being on the Internet. I took most of yesterday off from it and again today and I am still suffering the strain. What do others do about it?

    I also take long breaks during the day but it has gotten to me now. Can't stay around much longer.

    Norma
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen McPherson
    Hi Norma,

    Yeah, the rain has been good.

    With regards to your eyes...have you tried doing eye exercises ? :confused: Sounds a bit crazy, but it worked for me. Let me know if you want to know more. And guess what ? You don't have to buy anything!

    Hey, BTW I think we live nearby. Are you in South Canberra (didn't want to be too specific) ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Barbara Eyre
      Stephen,

      Can you impart those eye exercises?

      While font sizes and the like aren't my enemies at this time ... it's just good old fashion eye strain and fatigue that gets me. And very dry eyes. I use a lot of eye moisturizing drops! LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author Stephen McPherson
        Hi Barbara,

        Okay, I'll do the best I can to explain.

        STEP 1: Hold your finger out in front of you (about halfway between you and your monitor).
        STEP 2: You want to find some words that you can read (the same distance as your monitor). Maybe, stick a note to the side of it, if you don't already.
        STEP 3: Same as STEP 2, but you want to put something up (or find something) on a wall about 3-4metres away from you. Again, you must be able to read it. Now this can just be a single letter ie. "E" or a full word ie "READ" doesn't really matter.

        Now, just go between each of the 3 different distances you have and move your eyes to each letter/word until the writing comes into focus. You might find it take a second or two for your eyes to focus clearly. Now, don't blink when your eyes are trying to focus on the word. Only after you have.

        Clear. :confused:

        Regards,
        Stephen
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