Is this REALLY where the money is??

That's how terrible these people have become. They throw promotions at every Dick and Harry. It's really bad.

I have natural bullsh*t filter which for many years I felt prevented me from opportunities. When I see stories like this, I'm thankful I have it!

The first 5 seconds of reading would have set off several BS alarms and I'd have unsub'ed and not even continued reading.

There's a market for cursing, hooker referencing marketers, but you're right, the copy is terrible and provocative in a bad way. Was his signup page done like this?

I subscribed long ago to a woman who I knew for a fact to be making over $500K a year. Her site was pretty basic but her newsletter/sub was beyond terrible, to the point I almost emailed and offered to proofread for her.

Really have to wonder if some of these folks even read their own copy.

:sarcasmbelow:

I was actually cleaning toilets in a strip club. I bought the membership and they instantly gave me a magic software that was made by the US navy seals to fund their covert operations. I pressed 6 buttons and now I'm a Mega-millionaire, I took my brand spankin new Porsche for a ride down the Malibu coast and then stopped at the beach and then I made the most passionate scream showing my love for my hot supermodel wife. Thank you scammastersmembershipsystem you guys changed my life. :rolleyes:


-kunal

Off course I unsubscribe right after. Like I said before, I lost interest in what he had to say after the first line. I just wanted to finish reading so I could have an example of what NOT to do.

i knew it would end like this.... HEY HEY, I THINK YOU SHOULD BUY FROM THIS LINK? I knew these types of borrowing/requests in email campaigns would get old in a few years down the road!

Your question does this copy make money... yes.

The IM niche is full of people who jump from one course to the next. They love being told that what they are doing isn't working because they've been told lies (not their fault) and so they connect at least a little with the e-mail.

This looks like copy provided by the product owner and I'll admit I used to send these out, but now I only send them out with my take on the product, who it's for and who it's not for. The conversions on my non-hypey, honest review are about equal to the hypey company supplied pitch. I just feel better about my e-mails.

Yip, how to lose your list with one email. I'd love to see the unsubscribe stats for that email

I guess he would make more money and get more people in he's list if he would move the offer on the Thank You page and not use the first offer in a welcome email.

The problem is the writing, it's that you didn't expect it (probably their fault, not yours).

There are a lot of people that this email would appeal to. I would never bet on something like this failing, as I've done some things like it myself and seen it's potential.

The fact that you were unprepared for it is the issue. If he's putting people on his list with experience in IM and an expectation of value, then this email will be a big time failure.

If he's doing it correctly, then his traffic would be a lot of people who would actually click a link like that, and his opt-in forms would be designed to convert for those kinds of people.

For someone like you, he would obviously need a different autoresponder series.

I've just taken to hitting the spam button for most of those people. I have an e-mail address devoted just for spam and I'm hitting that button constantly because of all the stuff I download, most of which is junk. There are only about three or four people I actually take the time to read Emails from because they send real information and not just pitch after pitch after pitch for more junk I don't want or need.

Eric

I'd subscribe if I were you. Crummy products at it's best.

You know what's great about being an entrepreneur.. is that I only work with people that dig my style. The ones that don't no worries, I understand. I'm not for everyone..but the ones that can look past my disrespectful rants and moments of random shenanigans will make money from my training.

Just so you know- that Tiger woods, Charlie Sheen headline had around a 15.1% open rate when I tested it on a CB buyers list

Click here to see screen shot

It's all about the qualified traffic..

At the end of the day- the product being promoted is far more superior than the other bull**** on CB- Of course I'm biased

You warriors should have seen the email I sent today..actually I'll post it for you here.. the Truth shall set you free.. yea maybe I could had got my point across in a sweet and nice manner... but ummm thats just not me-

subject: Clickbank buyers are stupid..

You know.. the stupid buyers that purchase the
magic bullet super fly push this button and
get 50 sites that make you $1,467,346.24
while your sleeping on your yacht tomorrow..

..the stupid buyers that get their rocks off to have some
scammer telling them they suck and to leave
this page right now! RrrrRRRRRR but you
don't want to leave the page because your strong
and you want to be lied to..

did that scare ya?not even a little??

But why not- I'm super cool CB Guru
and you should buy my **** because I hired
a $30,000 copywriter to purposely mind ****
you just so I can rip you off.

Your so stupid! - because the only thing your doing
is losing money and giving it directly to the people
that are misleading you and ruining any real
chance for you to make money online..

Listen.. I'm a stupid Clickbank buyer too- I admit it..

I have believed their lies for years, purchased all
their products, opened all their emails and purchased
anything they ever said.. until one day I broke away from
the smoke and mirrors and saw what was on the other side

the Truth..

a close marketing buddy at the time and CB guru
said.. "Tim, Clickbank buyers are stupid" and then
he went on to explain that the only thing that matters
at the end of the day are the products EPC's(earnings per click)

If that # is high then they promote, they don't review the product,
they don't care and so basically what is happening is they totally
focus on Sales Copy and create ****ty products and then the
CB "syndicate" come together and say OK promote my ****
we have a great sales letter that converts because I just paid
Mr. XXXX copywriter ninja dude to mind **** everyone- Yay! High five!!

Then come launch day everyone mails, stupid clickbank buyers
that are already pre-conditioned to open all their emails - see
the cool sales video/sales letter and their like WOW- I only have to
push this button?!.. and because the buyer is stupid they totally forget
the past 297,997 frauducts they purchased where they didn't make
any money because they just got sucked into the hype.

So the end result is a 40% refund rate for the Guru and no successful
students,, oops I mean stupid buyers

You see the truth is- for this industry(Internet Marketing-Make Money)
to stay healthy there needs to constantly be new up and coming Internet
marketers making money- Period end of story- It's like with any type of
economy we need thriving businesses.

But the largest marketplace on the PLANET- Clickbank has
1,000's of unethical GURU's brainwashing the struggling newbie's

on what it really takes to make the money they are!!

Hellooo stupid Clickbank buyers don't you get it?!!

Now like I said I was a stupid Clickbank buyer for years
and man when I realized the truth it made me feel real stupid.

Now here's my disclaimer- There always has been and there still
are a lot of ethical Information Marketers on CB and Clickbank
by far is one of my favorite merchants and marketplaces online
because I know the positive power it possesses.

You might not hear too much about those ethical CB Guru's because
your a stupid buyer that lives in a fantasy world ruled by the unethical

CB warlords

ok ok I can count on 1 hand ethical CB guru's with integrity that
you know..but what sucks is that their are so so so many more
unethical CB marketers because it's just easier to be a scammer..

right?? make sense- are you still with me??

I'm not sure what campaign or how you landed on my list
but I'm sure a big portion of you have been that
stupid Clickbank buyer like I have and like these Guru's joke
about

I like to consider myself a marketer with integrity and a
ethical marketer. I might teach "think outside the box" methods
drink a lot of patron and curse like a sailor..

but I care about you and I care about your success
because I know what this industry needs to stay healthy
and that is more people creating success and having their
big break through- seriously that's what needs to happen

and that starts with investing in training that is not created
to hurt you but help you obtain your goals and dreams you
have made for yourself

make the conscious decision to be a SMART buyer and not a
stupid one- you can start with doing more research before you
purchase another project again..

My partner D.G. and I are 2 marketers that have
created one of the most extensive Internet Marketing training
programs on what it really takes to make money online and
in record time. We already have over 2,000 students and many
of them finally are having their big breakthroughs due to our
training.

be a smart buyer and research Commission Overload

..don't take my word for it, my students do the **** talking
for me.. I'm just a guy that has been where you've been and I
don't want you to make the same mistakes I did

Talk soon,

Tim

Ps. Let's save our marketplace and Clickbank together

******************
end email


I'm not going to lie I had many people not happy with this email and many unsubscribes.. but that's not necessarily a bad thing my friends

Much love and respect to all the warriors and this forum.

Talk soon,

Tim

PS. Test drive out CO before you assume is just another one of those CB scams or better yet go to any search engine on the planet and search "commission overload" - real marketing, real people, real results- thats the movement I'm a part of.. what you doin?

These people are called "IM Beggers" .. They don't even have time to edit those stupid misleading JV swipes. Making money online is actually "copy paste" job for these people. But they will only end up making quick cash and not "wealth".

Lol if that converts then were all gonna be millionaires pretty soon.

What a complete NOOB!

If that product converts that i should of been a millionaire years ago. "The holy grail of Marketing," that just makes me laugh because its so out there and stupid.

LOL,

I don't think he was personally attacking the way you make money...

unfortunately...thats the world that we IM'ers live in....lol.

You really dug into him though huh?

LOL...

BEST

Seriously Guys

i cannot believe the people dissing this product without even checking it out correctly, i,ve been in IM for about 30 months and FAILED at everything, most i ever made was $9 from some CPA offer and i did,nt get it cos i need to earn $100 before its released - haha

i bought this as a $37 WSO = Best Buy i ever made, Not only do the methods work, the advice on the site it 1st class.
Ok i accept that some of Tim's overview of stuff is a little hypey, (you think for you it's hypey = i,m a freaking Brit - WE DON'T DO HYPE PERIOD)
If you can't at least accept the product for what it is - then fine - its up to you, Carry on with what your doing thats so successful, No need to look at anything else

But i,ve seen hypey products and this aint one of them - this even works for a retard like me - i just cant say anymore about how good this product is

oh sorry- Yes i can
Go read the other thread on this Product and how a 15yo is making $500 a day implementing only ONE of these methods - and remember, your mind only works when its like a parachute = OPEN

I think most of you are mistaking my hype for passion. Give CO a test drive- I promise it will be one hell of a ride Much respect warriors

Tim

Reducing your lists of internet mkt ppl selling you advice is the first step towards making money online